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On 12/10/2021 at 2:32 PM, Mark MoreThan-Shaw said:

In case anyone mistakes this for an awful photoshop joke, this was built for Pat Metheny.  I'd hate to have tune this before every show, let alone change the strings.  😮

Funny, I got this email and I already have Mixcraft 9 Pro Studio.

Hopefully they are getting close with Mixcraft 10.  I'm hoping for:

• MIDI insert effects/routing (for use with Scaler, etc.)
• Muting select MIDI notes
• Chord Track with Scaler chord name input support

Maybe it's time to register Cubase Pro or buckle and get into Studio One.  It's just that Mixcraft is so easy on my old brain.

8 hours ago, Mark Mitchell said:

I have been a user of Cakewalk for decades, and have been very pleased with the Bandlab support of this application which in the Gibson shutdown set me into a bit of depression  - my tool of years was feeling dead to me.  

I came across the idea of a Chord Track from a YouTube Video yesterday. The antics of the guy are excusable - he does provide good info. He used Cubase - which the posts here have shown was first. It really sounded useful from the idea of improvising in the DAW software and making a visible outline of the harmony to use going forward - or reminding you on reopening what it was doing.  I went searching to see if we had this and found this thread - yes I would love to see this added.

I also read in the thread that there is not any Music XML support -  another thing that I would like to have included. The only XML import in the manual shows up ACT files only.  I have been looking at the scoring software area and the ability to export and import Music XML is standard.

 Musescore software is working on allowing plugins of VST for their next version  - version 4. That software is open source - which to me would mean that contributions to that code base might make it interchangeable with Cakewalk.  It might be challenging - however the interchange  of that Music XML might be one way of getting it started. 

I want to stay in the Cakewalk space - but without these contributions - it does make Cubase seem like a strong contender in pulling me into a new tool.

 

Until a chord track feature is implemented in Cakewalk, see this thread for a suggestion for displaying chord names - Multiple Arranger Tracks 

Chord track appears to be on their to-do list, so if the Cakewalk workflow best suits you, you may want to stand by.  However, there are no promises, so you should make your DAW decisions based on your requirements and what is currently available.

Has anyone had any issues with US credit card purchases at Best Service?

That price for a crossgrade to Studio One Pro is really tempting.

17 minutes ago, InstrEd said:

Will it write my music for me? 🤪

No, but I've written stuff I would never have, if not for Scaler.

Version 10 is targeted for 2022 - hopefully early.

Toward the end of the video, Davide says something about this version being culmination of features for v 2.x.  I have to believe after this, the next will be a paid version 3.  They put a heck of a lot in 2.x.

26 minutes ago, Zo said:

great indeed but maybe they do so to push toward something we still have no clue at this time ....

This is a buyer beware situation.  If v12 is the only reason one is buying or registering, there is no guarantee of features or delivery time.  For Cubase 12, Steinberg were careful not to say it was due in "early" 2022 like they did with Dorico 4.

Though I suspect they want to see how the new licensing scheme works with the smaller Dorico user audience first before they do it with the much larger Cubase audience.

Oh and this for gits and shiggles...

Deconstructing The Long And Winding Road (... Naked/January 31, 1969)

Listen to this one with headphones.  I hear Bass VI, and then in the chorus, there are 2 additional guitars playing with the bass, one and two octaves up respectively.  And based on the timing and phrasing, to me it sounds like the same person recorded all three.

The Beatles - While My Guitar Gently Weeps (Isolated Bass) (Surround Sound)
 

The classic "gambled and lost" ?

Just now, Bapu said:

There is also speculation that he played the same bass on While My Guitar Gently Weeps too.

I think that was George, doubling the part on guitar an octave higher.  The phrasing of the two are identical and it's his song anyway.

I wonder how they let this one slip out?

21 hours ago, Bapu said:

Oh I need it all right.

Cool, you can sound like John Lennon playing bass on Long and Winding Road.

Maybe there will still be an 11.5 (albeit skinny) upgrade in a couple of weeks, but the incentive to do so is that v12 will be no additional charge.  

I've got to say, the theme looks really nice.

Though a part of me doesn't like the cloning another DAW's interface to this level of detail. 

4 minutes ago, simon said:

incompetence ? 

Or it could be a marketing maneuver to create version 12 excitement disguised as a mistaken leak.

Interesting - all that stuff about version 12 has all been removed now from their website.

Hackers or huge negative reaction?

I hope the agreement includes a clause which deals with intellectual property in the event that things go south.

Of course there are Yamaha / Steinberg and Apple / Logic Pro - development has not suffered in those cases.

Those loops are in Steinberg's proprietary .vstsound format, so using them in other DAWs would be a lot of work - probably need to render each to wav files.

Aja is a perfect record.

46 minutes ago, John Vere said:

The whole point is I need to convert a whole lot of already recorded tracks. Having to re play them is not something I'm that interested in. As long as I can make this work with minimum editing required it will be a huge time saver. 

Got it.  What I was suggesting was a little unorthadox i.e. to "play" the recorded audio with the MG2 vst on the track and capture the MIDI - but that is assuming MG2 would do a better conversion than Melodyne (unlikely).  But as I mentioned above, you might want to EQ and compress to really make the note fundamentals pop, so audio pitch analysis has an easier time.

1 hour ago, User 905133 said:

Are you saying that in Mixcraft Pro Studio Melodyne Essential will do polyphonic audio to midi conversion?

Yes.  The difference between Essential/Assistant and Editor/Studio is that with the latter, you can edit polyphonic audio, so for instance, you could do crazy things, like take a piano performance in a major key and change it to minor.

53 minutes ago, John Vere said:

 

@John Vere One more thought - since you own MIDI Guitar 2, you may want to try that to convert the the audio to MIDI by playing the audio into the VST and capturing the MIDI, though I'm not certain that Cakewalk has all the audio and MIDI routing needed. 

Just a thought - perhaps making a new copy of the audio track, dedicated to MIDI conversion, and preparing it for analysis/conversion with EQ / dynamics processing could provide more accurate MIDI?