micv

I got it sorted out!

After setting the TLS regkey as above, I need to set the Internet Properties to use it, it was unchecked:

15 hours ago, Promidi said:

I am going to assume that your internet is actually working reliably (other websites work)

Go a 3rd party firewall?

It really helps to mention your Operating System in situations like this.

Check that TLS 1.2 is enabled.  (which it is not in Windows 7 by default).

If you’re running Windows 7, See:

https://manage.accuwebhosting.com/knowledgebase/3008/How-do-you-enable-TLS-1-2-on-Windows-7.html
 

thanks fot the info. 

Win7, internet is working good, no 3rd party firewall.  Previuos version or two has always worked, but these last couple versions gave the internet error, when internet is actually working.

I set the TLS 1.2 as shown in the link, reboot, still git the same mesage.  btw do i need Bandlab Assistant still?

i also tried offline activation but Product Center doesn't work in Win7.

Installed but can not activate.  Got these messages, when try to sign in I got the 2nd box. 

I have archived tracks with output set to none, seems logical to not route to anything.  However it got detected and the annoying message at start.   Is there a way to disable the "Silent Tracks or Buses Detected" just for archived track?

2 hours ago, Glenn Stanton said:

hmmm. i'm not seeing it vary in relationship until i hit the min/max points then they start to shift. i just tried it with about 40 points, varying 8th note to 2 measures, ±0.6db, ±1.1db, ±2.3db etc to see if odd values or smaller relationships were a factor. i did not use any slopes, just straight up and down shifts on the volume envelope.

I found that it's readily reproducible when the nodes are down below the -12 -18 -24 vertical ruler.  Now some nodes values are more than 1 db off.  The visual shape of the envelop remains the same however.  The issue looks to me then the envelope not calculated correctly or relatively to scale with the display.  Meaning you make a one db change in the region between 0 and -6db,  move it down to the region -18 -24, the shape of the envelope remains the same so the -1 db change is now cover something like 2db graphically.  hope it makes sense.

7 hours ago, Will_Kaydo said:

When you select multiple nodes to move at once. There are times it does not move simultaneously in value and find that it's off by 0.2dB, OR, 0.1dB, which i find odd.

@Will, This exactly.  

Relative level are then off in random spots, so now after moving the entire envelope, I have to go back and check every segment

@Glenn.  Thanks for checking, it occurs when you have more nodes/segments than in your example.  In practice I typically could have a dozen or so segments, and if I ride the volume automation, there could be a lot more.

24 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

 

This isn't a bug - it's normal.

dB is a logarithmic scale, not a linear scale.

so if my segments are 0 db and -1db, for example, moving the entire envelope down by 1db I would expect to get -1db and -2 db.  Are you saying that it's not.? The unit here is db.

On 2/2/2021 at 10:32 AM, micv said:

Anyone seeing this issue:

If you select the entire volume envelope and move it, say by 1db, some section will move less than 1db, like .7 or .8.  To test use envelope that has a bunch of nodes and sections.

Not sure if this is 2021.01 could have been there since the last version.

hey guys,

Bringing this up again to see if this issue is recently introduced or something on my ends. thx

3 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

You have never needed to do this. Its folklore propagated by some misinformed people based on very specific cases.

interesting as we speak, there is another active thread, and I copy the link here.  It still said about background process.  folklore is hard to squash, I suppose 😀

https://www.blades.technology/music/daws-sonar-and-studio-one/three-tips-to-optimize-pc-for-daw-use

"3. Configuring the computer to prefer Background Processes over Programs.  This one made the biggest "one item" difference."

Anyone seeing this issue:

If you select the entire volume envelope and move it, say by 1db, some section will move less than 1db, like .7 or .8.  To test use envelope that has a bunch of nodes and sections.

Not sure if this is 2021.01 could have been there since the last version.

good to know.  I've set this background process as well since way back and forgot about it and never could confirm that it does something or not.

Assuming the CbB knows to give the system some CPU for system critical background process?

I typically turn off network, virus, the internal sounds process when running DAW.  Those in my experience have interfered with DAW.

Updated to the latest version, been playing with the setting and so far I can't really tell if there is a different with MMCSS or not.

I haven't made the update to the latest, but on the last version, when enable MMCSS, I got 'hic-cup' on the midi tracks.  

I saw that there are updates to this in the recent built, never really understand this beyond what's in wiki.

In practice when do you enable MMCSS? and what do the various modes actually do?

On 1/15/2021 at 6:53 PM, Bristol_Jonesey said:

This sort of thing can easily be done using offset mode.

• Switch on Offset Mode
• Raise TRACK FADER by 0.5dB
• Switch off offset Mode

 

A while back I got so confused with offset mode that I decided not to use it.  As I recall when you switch back to normal mode, the fader will ride with the envelop and the offset will be applied behind the scene.  Cool but after awhile you might forget that you have some offset somewhere.  Would be good if they also show the offset number next to the fader number.

@reginaldStjohn.  Thanks for trying this out. 

When you're moving only one node or a segment between two nodes it will work as expected.  The issue I observed is when you have more than one 'segment' and all nodes selected.  In your example try to select the entire envelope, all the nodes selected, you'll see what I mean.  In addition to the non-sense readout, you should see that for some reason the very last node will be un-selected and not move, instead another node will be created on top of the last note.

anyone?

16 hours ago, Kevin Perry said:

4 - 0.5 = 3.5dB; 4 + 0.5 = 4.5dB.

Seems to make sense to me.

where do the 4 come from?  the nodes has different values throughout and in my test there is no segment that is +4db.

In practice I just want to move the entire envelop by a certain value, like .5 db, and I can't tell how much I had moved by looking at the numbers.

I will need to figure out how to do screenshot!

For example I move the entire envelope (all nodes) down by .5db but the second number shows +3.5; then I move the envelope up by .5db the second number shows +4.5. Doesn't make any sense.

This is the read out that has two numbers and is confusing to me when the entire envelope is being selected (all nodes).  The one on the left looks to me is the value of where the cursor is but not always!  the number one the right,  I cannot see any consistent pattern, I'd expect that this to be the amount of change but it's not!

I have a Dell and have seen similar error.  In my case the whenever the Dell's audio driver wants to use the asio soundcard intended for your DAW would cause CW to drop the audio.  I don't think you can disable the Dell's audio driver b/c it would disable your asio as well.  What I had to do is assigned the onboard card (whatever yours might be) to the Windows audio and make sure that the asio soundcard is disable in win audio settings.

all that's need is a new option 'Dock to Window' and something more straightforward as 'save screenset'

@Colin and Scook

thanks so much for the tips.  the D and shift+D shortcut is useful (if you remember it!) but dragging seems intuitive.

The bottom line for me is, and right, you must use ScreenSet:

Screen 1 = Tracks and/or half split if you want to.  I keep this to Tracks only.

Screen x = single view or multidock for everything other than Tracks.

3 hours ago, Colin Nicholls said:

To be clear, I mean, you can pull the separator bar of the multidock all the way up, covering the track view entirely, and save as a screenset 2. Then flip back between screenset 1 and 2, using the number keys to change sets.

I've been playing with this for a while and couldn't find a solution.

The only way I can do  is:  Set screen 1 to the Tracks, set screen 2 to Console, and then only flip on screen 2 to any other view but not to track because it will then half dock on screen 2, and you have to do the resize again. Anytime you flip on screen 1, it will half dock.

Seems like unintended behavior to me.

For a single monitor, I want to use the alt-number to flip between the views (tracks, console, midi, ...).   But the other view, other than Tracks, always docked or occupied the top or bottom half of the Tracks view, depends on your selection.   What do you do to get the view to fill up the Tracks window not just half?

I can undock and maximize the view but it will cover up the top  main control bar which must be always in view for me.