James Argo

3 hours ago, David Baay said:

I'm almost certain the issue is Remove DC Offset. Disable it, and make an extended multitrack test recording. I think you'll be fine. 

This is interesting, I will test as soon as possible. The problem is I need to test in live band situation which is not going to happen so very soon due to social distancing thing. I'll make sure to test every possible setting before I replace the HDD. I'll post the result here..

Thanks!

By "selected all tracks", do you mean MIDI track or audio track? Does the new measure inserted have same time signature with the rest of the song?

18 hours ago, Gerry 1943 said:

Thank you for the info, but where do I find  " basic Workplace " I looked and cannot find it.

And another thing I noticed, when starting a new project, in the template area, the only thing that appears is the word BASIC.

Before this update, whenever I strated a new project, I had a whole list of options. Now they are gone.

Should I return to an older version?

Thank you for any help.

 

Regards

 

Gerry

You can find info here:

Hope it helps.

13 hours ago, John Vere said:

I recorded live band 16 tracks night after night to a 2008 Sony laptop duo core 8 GB RAM night after night for a good 2 years and never had and issue. I used an old Tascam us 1641 interface for 14 audio tracks plus 2 tracks were midi. Later on I added a Yamaha mixer that put out a stereo USB and used WDM mode( later WASAPI ) . along side the Tascam.  So I think your issue might be the Deltas.

Thanks for confirming that the processor and the RAM is not the bottle neck in this situation! I knew it can handle the job. 😉

My Core2Duo PC above was built around 2009 as second DAW to replace the stacked ADAT system to record 16 audio tracks simultaneously. During those days, we still used acoustic drum with many mics involved. The purpose of the PC was only to record, capturing live band.  I transferred the  captured material to my main DAW for editing, mixing, etc. It  worked just perfect with Sonar 8.5 (if I'm not mistaken), never had any problem with it for years.  I believe the Deltas are fine. It was perfect solid machine. In 2012 we replace the acoustic drums with E-Drums (Roland TD) so we no longer record drums as audio, instead we capture the MIDI and use sampler (Supperior drummer). So I never have recorded more than 8 audio track simultaneously anymore since then. I use this second DAW also as my "mobile DAW" whenever I need to track in clients location. I never feel the need to upgrade anything since it worked just perfect. The only thing I did was replacing the HDD 2 times after some years.

I have a feeling the bottle neck *could* be the HDD cache. In 2009, I used 2x 2TB HDD with 64MB cache. Now, it's running 3x 500GB with 8MB cache. I heard the cache will affect how fast the HDD writes in multi track situation. I'm not sure, I haven't tested it. If anyone has valid info, please let me know.

2 hours ago, David Baay said:

Sounds like the problem from back in Platinum era with  'Remove DC Offset During Record'  in Preferences > Audio Playback and Recording.  As I recall, it was fixed at some point, but maybe still manifests in some cases.

That, or did you maybe enable the experimental 'Aggressive' ThreadSchedulingModel=3 in AUD.INI (Preferences > Audio > Configuration File)?

Yes, the  'Remove DC Offset During Record' is ticked (selected). I think I never touch that since installation, I leave it there by default. Do you think it may cause problem in some case?

The ThreadSchedulingModel=1 

Is there anything I should pay extra attention  in case of 12+ tracks simultaneous audio recording? Config, hardware, or anything that may cause bottleneck?

Thanks! 🙂

If you want to use "drag and drop" method, then (to avoid confusing) make sure you insert soft synth NOT as simple instrument track.
Make sure you open the Insert Soft synth Options and select "Midi Source" and "First Synth Audio Output".

You will have 1 synth track and 1 empty MIDI track.

Then you drag the MIDI file into the empty MIDI track.

That's how to do it properly. Hope it helps.

1 minute ago, User 905133 said:

Is this an attempt to explain what Starship Krupa meant by "in Preferences?"  Or is this an attempt to tell Starship Krupa how to use Workspaces?

The original question was about asking why the "Surround" page disappear from Preferences --> Project.
If you use workspace that does not include  "Surround" (in "Show in the GUI" on workspace manager), then the surround will disappear from the Preferences.

Yes, if you go into workspace manager, you can see you can control what to show in the GUI (including those in menu).

Either intel or AMD will do... I have built many intel and AMD machines for multimedia work, as long as you know what to do (and what to expect), both are great. If you ask people on the net, they will always discuss & debate about how one is better than another for the sake of their own argument. Get over it, like comparing apple and orange, in the end, it's always be a matter of taste and sentimental reason.

Few days ago I went to record a full live band. This time, the band wanted to do 16 audio tracks simultaneous live recording & I thought it would be good opportunity to test my old trusted system to do the job. It's been long time since I do 16 audio tracks simultaneous recording. Usually I record only 8 tracks max, and I never had a problem with that. The pc in use is an old machine.

Intel Core2Duo E8400
8GB DDR2 Ram
Win7 x64 SP1
2 x M-Audio Delta 1010LT PCI card (clock synced with external Spdif cable, one as master and the other as slave), latest driver available for Win7 x64.
Latest Cakey 2020.04
3  x 500GB 7200rpm HDD (that's right, HDD not  SSD), 1 for OS, 1 for recording data, and 1 for pic cache.
Recorded in 24 / 44.1
Audio buffer size 512 samples
Playback I/O & Record I/O buffer size 512k (Cakey Preferences audio sync and caching)

After a couple hours of mic positioning, wire routing, cable management, setup the monitoring, etc, the session was ready. I did few short recording test to see if everything worked as expected, and it did. So there we go.

Then the session began, we did about 8 cover songs recorded live. Everything *looks* ok. Each song was recorded in different cwp project.

The day after, I open the recorded projects to mix, just to realize something is not right with the recorded tracks. I found many random erratic sound all over tracks. Looks like something in the chain is not that "strong" or "fast" enough to handle the session.

I attach the sample wav of how the erratic sound like.

Did anyone experience this? What do you think causing it? Any suggestion what to do as to improve my old system?

Any comments are welcome. Thanks !

Record 1erratic_sound.wav

Most of problem with screen layout and position is caused by "Workspace" . Have you set  the workspace to None and try again?

1 hour ago, Angelo DiBraccio said:

Thank you.

I figured it out. The current Snapshot was locked. I unlocked it. Problem solved.

 

regards

 

Glad you solve it, please edit the title of the thread, and add [SOLVED] .

You can try using CAL attached.

Quick hint, insert first note, highlight it, the run the CAL. It will ask for range of notes from the base first note. for example, if you insert C as base note, then answer 2,4,5,7,9,11 as they are the range of "re-mi-fa-sol-la-ti" from "C" .

You can adjust the length of the first note inserted before running the CAL to suite your timing & duration of the glissando.

Hope it helps as starting point.

GLISDOWN.CAL GLISSUP.CAL

Yes, there is bug in the docking panel.  I reported months ago, and it's confirmed. I believe it takes time for the baker to address the problem.

 We hope it can be fixed soon.

IMHO, this is prime reason why bakers introduced screenset years ago. The most important feature to make efficient of our display real estate.

You can select the the top FX in track FX bin, and hit "Del" key on your keyboard several time to remove those FXs. Not so time consuming I guess, unless you insert hundred of effects in the bin (which I'm sure you did not).

By default, CbB will install samples of template in C:\Cakewalk Content\Cakewalk Core\Project Templates

Make sure you see several sample templates there.

In Cakewalk, the option to change the template folder is in Edit --> Prefereneces --> File --> Folder Locations --> Templates

Try this:

In Cakewalk menu. Edit --> Preferences --> Audio --> Playback and Recording

Tick on " Suspend Audio Engine when Cakewalk is not in focus" and "Always Open All Devices"

Hope it helps.

Call me old fashioned, but if all you want to control from distance is the transport function (play, arm, record, solo, mute, wheel around parts, jump to another track, undo, redo, etc), then the old discontinued Frontier Tranzport will do the job perfectly. You can find used for 50 bucks in eBay. I have 2, and they work fine even in Win10 x64.

As for the stationed surface, I'm still happy with (almost 20 years old) Peavey StudioMix. It was made solely for Cakewalk, but to my surprise, it also works with Presonus Studio One! It is in the list of the supported Control Surface (tho I don't use SO).

Thanks for fast update scook!

BTW, I found the "modified" date for 2020.04 is written 3/8/2020 in the preferences theme page.. does it need correction?

I'm afraid it is not possible.

.ins file works to select "bank" and "patches" following MIDI Bank select & Program select standard. There is no such "Category" grouping in MIDI standard.

Zillion CAL files from my archive (including editor and utilities).

CALeditor.zip CAL Scrripts(1).zip

I was a bit surprised last year when I know their HQ is about couple block away from my home... Good people running good business delivering good products!

Thank you soooooo much for the Behavior changes! And the ProChannel presets!!! And the bug fixes !!!! And now we have Arranger Track...

God bless you all good people!! Thank you sooo much for the good things you bring in this global difficult times!!

On 10/26/2019 at 11:23 PM, Robert Bone said:

If there isn't already something in place, would it be possible to have a setting in CbB to have it automatically send the midi event for sustain on and off, to all midi channels, when playback stops?  Wouldn't need every note getting note off data  - just the data needed to simulate pressing and releasing a sustain pedal.  (just a thought).

Open the project, go Preferences --> Project --> MIDI --> Other Options . Tick the Zero Controllers When Play Stops.