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Anyone managed to demo their new rig libraries? They don't show up in my list of rigs available to demo in TH-U. Not sure if this is a bug or a new feature 😅

Come on TDR, if the limiter can go this low, I bet Nova can, too 🙃

I tried hard to keep it under control:

- Melda's MTremoloMB and MSoundFactory LE (based on opinions here and elsewhere, though I kind of have my doubts about this one, especially if I won't be able to use the drum samples with it; I hope I'm wrong)

- Liquidsonics Reverberate 3 (I demo-ed Tai Chi and love it, but just can't afford it right now, as I'd like the full version)  

- Tonex SE (long time coming) and a $3 so-so tone pack

- One of the 8dio Soundpaint saxophones 

Still to come:

- grudgingly, but I think I'll get an Ilok key; my old OS drive died and it's a hassle to recover some of the licenses (cough, Exponential Audio <- first and foremost, Air Music, Sonivox)

- I should have waited with one of the JRR purchases to pick up the Inspirata Lite freebie, which I want; hopefully I'll find something cheap but useful to get it

- same as above for Pluginboutique, as I want the Dawesome Love 

55 minutes ago, PavlovsCat said:

I recall that this developer has impressive credentials,  having worked for many respected effects developers. What effects do you guys recommend checking out? 

Try them out, they (well, Ray? I'm not sure anyone else is involved) have a generous demo policy - 14 days without restrictions. Personally, I think all the preamps/compressors are absolutely top-notch. The channel strip at this price is a Hornet level steal. I LOVE the F-59, I think it's a hidden gem. The spring reverb is interesting/nice with its own character. I demo-ed the plate reverb but didn't think it stood out next to the other ones I have/use (Arturia, Soundtoys, PSP). 

3 minutes ago, MrFigg said:

Anyone know how these are usually priced? Seem to remember the fx board one was like $20 retail. 
 

Most are $30 to $60

wow

Tempting. Does anyone know if this unlocks the stuff it comes with (e.g. unlimited downloads for tone models) for the iOS version as well?

14 minutes ago, Carl Ewing said:

I think it's the size. Especially with the addition of Fantasy Orchestra - which is basically an entirely new orchestra library outside of HOOPUS. I have both Musio & CC, but the East West catalog is just absolutely enormous by comparison. $150 already seems insane, considering how much content there is compared to Musio. For data / articulation / mic position comparison, Hollywood Orchestra alone is 4 times larger than the entire Musio catalog. 

Yeah, valid points. But even at $10 a month they'd make a pretty penny over multiple years. Also, this $150 offer is only for the first year, I think. They had something similar last year, and it wasn't renewing at that rate. 

1 hour ago, Carl Ewing said:

You can get 1 year of Musio for $90 right now (3 months free).  Or buy the entire Musio catalog for life for $300. Both the Cinesamples & East West subs are insane.

EDIT: Musio is a bit of a beta test though. Finding quite a few bugs, but it's early days.

I was actually hoping that EastWest would have a $9.99/month sale for the composer cloud, perhaps in response to Musio. I would go for that. I don't quite get why they don't do it; as opposed to most mixing/mastering plugins, I'd hate to switch between large orchestral libraries/ecosystems. There would be a strong incentive to stick with a sub for years, making it a win-win. 

I demo-ed this, and it was painful, as figuring out the IK multiverse often is. Activating the demo in Tonex CS you get a message that you have 30 minutes (lol) to demo the pack, but then, clicking through the individual tone models, they still come with that lovely intermittent hiss (as with demo-ing tone models one doesn't own) 🫠 

The collection itself sounds good, though to my ears, not significantly better than some of the better (free) captures on Tone Net. Speaking of those, another IK riddle: as my OS drive died a sudden and definitive death, I had to reinstall *everything* (which was quite a crash-course into the wildly different activation/deactivation policies that companies employ). Before the tragic passing, I had 17 tone models downloaded in my Tonex CS (in the 20 available 'free' slots). Having reinstalled Tonex CS, I can't find a way to access (identify and re-download) those. The filter seems to only reflect tone models saved/downloaded locally, so if they're not available, they don't show up, even though they're counted against the limit of 20 slots. Any ideas? 🤕

So, for those like me, who also didn't get the Mod and Crush pack plugins at first install; I updated Native Access, reintroduced the NI effects serial from the bundle, and now they show up in NA, ready to be installed. 

6 hours ago, TheSteven said:

Double check as they don't install under those names.

No joke, I think I refreshed this page 500 times. For a 16 dollar discount on a plugin I don't really need.

G*dd*mn GAS 

14 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

The only issue with Native Access to 2 is in order to install older products, you'll have to reinstall the older Native Access to do so.

Eh, no need. At the rate NI's glitching, we'll soon get K14 CE for the price of a HoRNet EQ. 

7 minutes ago, pollux said:

I got Guitar Rig Pro 7, but didn't get Crush Pack and Mod Pack either

Maybe only people born in August get those. Seriously though, I guess they'll figure it out. Native Access doesn't seem to mind repeat registering of the same serial code, so I'll try to refresh NA and/or readd the serial code for a couple of days, before I start whining to them. But if someone (not born in August) gets them to work it would be nice to know how. 

Just now, ralfrobert said:

I mailed support asking if anything is likely to happen if the base product is older than August and registration took place in the morning. Will post the answer here. 

As I said, an error fare. 

Yeah, they'll sell us some hardware instead, discounted at 67%. Come on, that would be ridiculous. Maybe NI are just getting to grips with Izotope's licensing. I'd congratulate them for a good job if this upgrade really required any base product owned at all, as opposed to earlier times. 

I've been playing around with Guitar Rig 7 for the past couple of hours. Didn't expect anything from it, next to everything else I own and use, yet I came off pleasantly surprised. It's quite inspiring for cleanish ambiental stuff, with some very good effects, flexible modulation options, and a nice (and large) set of presets to get you tweaking. I counted it as zero added value as I went for the MPS6 upgrade, so it's quite a nice bonus. I never bothered with Guitar Rig 6, so I have no idea if this is a significant step-up?  

Grem - if you haven't succeeded already, I couldn't install GR7 using Native Access, I had to install Native Access 2 (had no idea it existed, figured it would auto-update to whatever the current version is). 

29 minutes ago, Grem said:

All I got when I registered the NI serial was these:

Yeah, me too, but if you look on the product page, the Mod Pack and Crush Pack are supposed to be included 🤔

Did any of you manage to activate/install the full set of NI effects? Including the Mod and Crush packs? If so, how did you do it? I activated the effects collection in Native Access using the serial number, but only a few of the effects that are supposed to be in there show up. 

I got it as well. The install process is kind of mess though. The NI effects are incomplete (the Mod Pack and Crush Pack are missing); Guitar Rig 7 shows in my NI account but not in Native Access... 🙄

I didn't quite get where those codes were coming from. Any chance there are more floating about? 

2 hours ago, ralfrobert said:

The quality of both the presets and the processors are better with the PSP strip. You will use it. 

Key part was "to get you going quickly". Because I doubt I'd replace my Acustica channel strips with PSP's. 

59 minutes ago, Eusebio Rufian-Zilbermann said:

A very interesting feature in infinistrip is that it matches the settings when switching between different variations of the same type of module (e.g., switching compressors, even if one model uses FET, the other is opto, etc). I don't remember MixBox doing that

Yeah. That's definitely a plus 🤔

So tempting, as I really like my PSP plugins. I'm just not sure I'd use it much, on top of all the other stuff I have and use. And in terms of flexibility within a single plugin, to get you going quickly, MixBox is hard to beat. 

Thanks, Fleer. Very confusing. On the Drum Empire 2000 page they have a list under "Drum Empire 2020 is used by following plugins" which includes LE, even the free Player. But as you say, no access to edits means no 'Generator', so the only other option would be having a midi instrument that can load the packs, and I have no clue if/where that is included. 

How would one use the drum packs, say, Drum Empire 2000, within MSoundFactory LE, without an MDrummer license? Is there a drum instrument that can load/use the samples?