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You are sort of asking two questions here. The built-in loop construction view is Alt-7 on the keyboard.

As far as playing back varying lengths of that loop "on demand," if that loop always starts at the beginning, you could try using the Matrix View (Alt-5), and adjust the settings to stop playback between cells so that you can MIDI-control the duration of what is played.

There is a very old tutorial series that is still (mostly) applicable for most of CbB (it was made for SONAR X2). The chapter list and videos are on separate pages. What you are asking about are Chapter 26 (Matrix View) and Chapter 35 (Groove Loops).

On 1/13/2024 at 5:41 PM, Scott said:

Just something with good quality chords.

Just to reiterate the above, what you are seeking can easily be done with a VST Instrument (there are many free ones that are nice) and you can either trigger notes by manually entering them in the Piano Roll View (PRV), via the Virtual Keyboard, or with an external MIDI controller. You will be editing mostly in the PRV, but you would not need a keyboard that has onboard sounds, so if you want a physical MIDI controller, that can be plugged in via USB and seen as a separate device in CbB without issues or conflicts with your 2i2.

1 hour ago, Starship Krupa said:

That's it, no magnets, no spikes, just pop the lid off and it instantly destroys it.

As someone who engineered and oversaw production on HDDs that statement is 100% NOT TRUE. YouTube is rife with idiots, so be very careful as to what you read/watch, and never assume you are an expert because you read something online.

A HDD head literally flies roughly 1 micro-inch from the platter, so even a molecule of tobacco smoke can rip the head off (that is 100% true, and why de-lidding them voids any warranty). However, that does nothing to the data on the platter (with the small exception for where the head impacted). Once the hysteresis curve has been set, the platter will maintain data until another magnetic field overdrives that. The platters are basically optical flats with an oil coating on them, so you could also optionally use a degreaser on them and spray them with acid to prevent a head read (rust the crap out of them). Unless you have data on your drives that will get you sent to prison, it is sort of moot anyway; no one else but law enforcement is going to waste the time trying to get data off of old drives.

We had an engineer that would play games and de-lid drives then run them on his desk to see how long they would run before the heads crashed, it actually took a lot longer than we expected.

On 1/8/2024 at 6:05 PM, bjornpdx said:

I'm thinking about using a strong magnet to delete data, but I'm reading conflicting reports about how well magnets would work.  Seems like they should do the job if strong enough.

I strong magnet (like a welding magnet, or decent level neodymium magnet from K&J... just be careful with those, since they can cause bodily harm... I have a few 100lb magnets I use for welding and to freak people out at times) will definitely do the job. What most do not realize is during the manufacturing process, there are bits written to discs to give the head navigation coordinates (left of track, right of track, and on center) for each sector so that it can verify alignment before writes/reads. Those navigation point are no different than the data lanes and the entire disc is highly magnetic, so a strong magnet will not only wipe the data, but also wipe the navigation points from the disc which will make a head unable to even locate tracks.

That said, there are tools now to optically read discs with a laser, so anything not magnetically wiped can simply be scanned. Driving a spike through a disc will only obliterate the actual puncture location, the rest of the disc can be scanned without issues. You do not need to un-swage (take apart) the discs to magnetically wipe them, just break the seal on the cover and pop the lid off, then run a powerful magnet along the edge of the disc stack. You just need a magnet strong enough to generate the same localize field a head does to wipe a disc magnetically.

Quick edit: Wow, those magnets have gone up in price dramatically. I got 4 of these for $10 each 20 years ago, and they are $45 a piece now! At that time, welding magnets were $75 a piece and still less powerful than these guys, so they are still a deal. Just be very careful with any magnets this strong.

1 hour ago, Quinellipe Zorn said:

I once bought a software just for the discounted plugin as the bundle was a ridiculously great deal)

There were actually quite a few posts in the old forums of people looking at SONAR and asking if the bundled software was locked to it. Some admitted quite frankly that they had no interest in SONAR, but wanted the included plugins specifically for another DAW.

Another item to consider with bundling is that such would most likely also increase the price of the bundle. For newbies, that can be enticing, but for folks who already own them they could be paying more for a DAW for things they already own. The MAGIX Samplitude Suite is a good example of this, for a first-time buyer that can be an awesome deal, but some of the included apps in the last go-round were the same as when I got X5 (and you don't get an "extra" copy that can be resold with that). MAGIX does have the advantage that they include the latest version of SpectraLayers Pro (and older versions of their other software), but $199 each year (when it is on sale), is a bit excessive for a DAW upgrade. It would be more effective to split out the DAW from other apps, but there is definitely an interest for folks to pick up things that vanished when SONAR became CbB (Z3TA+2, Dimension Pro, et al.), and nothing precludes having 3rd-party deals for current SONAR owners rather than them being bundled.

Even iZotope gets comments in this regard a lot. So many of their bundles overlap that people comment things like, "Only two applications are upgrades for me, the rest I already own."

On 1/6/2024 at 10:28 AM, greg54 said:

It would not let me play or record or do anything.

This actually caught me off guard. Didn't the prior versions simply disable saving? The 3-month window I find a little odd as well TBH.

It is also worth noting this thread when it was released. I picked up Scaler EQ, but it has limitations that the internal features are not available "real time" to tweak the functions or drive them with MIDI input, so it has more "static" functionality to it. They acknowledged this issue and are setting it as a priority for future revisions, but I have not been tracking it specifically.

2 hours ago, Notes_Norton said:

They talk to other club owners too.

Need to look into putting NDAs in place... they are all the vogue now anyway. This could turn out to be a second source of income (although lawyers will take most of that from you).

The problem oftentimes with raw patches is that it takes very little tweaking to them to get a far different sound. Without the hardware itself (or an emulator), even patches are only going to go so far, which can be another issue with "how" to actually use them if you have them in hand. The video below has an offer in the description for the (customized) patches used for a cover of "Another Day in Paradise" on (3) D-50s.

Doesn't surprise me, since a couple cartridge replacements can cost more than the machine itself. HP has been playing around with the chips on those cartridges for years. If you go in and disable the "HP SI Service" manually, it keeps their printers from phoning home.

Depending on where you are getting your source material from, 4K Video Downloader is another option. In addition to video download options, there are also audio-only options available. IIRC, the free version does 30 downloads per day, and it also alleviates the hassle of loopbacks or recording in "real time."

That is the story with half of my projects for sure, I buy things well in advance of using them at times as well.

Have you tried tackling this from another perspective? I.e., you really only need an audio interface to get audio in (and cannot really get around this)... can you pull the Behringer out of the loop and play the project back on the RealTek chip in WASAPI mode? Be sure the project sample rate matches the RealTek in Windows Sound Options, but if you have a system (or even headphones) to use the Onboard audio that should be an option (for playback/mixing). You will take a latency hit for that playback option, but I use that to mix surround quite often.

1 hour ago, John Templeton said:

people that thought a phone was a good music creation platform.

There have been a couple posts recently that were funny... one had "notable quotables" in it, and the other referenced IT folks gravitating to DAWs for the "past few years" (has been a LOT longer than that). But a notable quotable from you from the old forum (I appreciate good sarcasm) was to the effect: "Everyone with a DAW thinks they are a producer."

3 hours ago, David Baay said:

This indicates the problem is with the interface or monitoring. [...] You should return it if you can and get something with a proven reputation for quality hardware and drivers.

Not sure if that Behringer UMC404HD is within the return window (hopefully it is), but there are bigger names in the game with an interface in that price range that make their own drivers. Behringer has had a lot of posts over the years with people having issues with them.

A trial of Studio One Pro has more analytics/latency options available internal to the app, but if you have already replicated the issue with Reaper, I doubt that is going to help you find a solution to the interface itself (which is what it appears to be).

3 hours ago, Jim Roseberry said:

Far fewer developers

I think that is really how I read into the OP as it was, but from the standpoint of Studio One. I.e., the development horsepower in house is sufficient to let the tech savvy folks "play around" with another variant. I doubt that it is really an intended market, but more the "we wanted to see if we could do it, so we did."

The most destructive effect from the Gibson debacle was the gutting of the Cakewalk development team. Being out manned by an order of magnitude makes everything harder.

That is a really odd one, and the only other internal thing that comes to mind is if they show up in the Plugin Manager. I have very rarely tweaked things in that, and am wondering if tweaking folder layouts can cause such. But, there is still the question if it is a Windows issue or CbB itself. Any DAW (free or demo) that can use VST3s would be a quick way to check. If they do not show up in that either, then Windows is having the issue. With the VST2s working, it is certainly not paramount to run to ground, but it sure is baffling.

6 hours ago, Gswitz said:

Now, it comes with a ground wire. 

To the chassis itself? That is a bit odd since everything in the rack should have a 3-wire power input on it and designed to fault out that ground. The chassis itself should never see power except for things like you walking on the carpet or similar and shouldn't transmit to the circuitry either.

Hey John, it is good to hear from you and that you are doing well. Is weird I dropped @Ampfixer in a couple of posts over the past year hoping you would chime in.

I was thinking of you a couple years ago when a coworker was telling me about a "bulbs" her father had collected before he died. I had to stop her to get a better description of them (she had no clue what they were), and of course she starts describing various valve sizes. I then asked her how many she was talking about and she said "hundreds." I just laughed and told her those are valves and she is sitting on a small fortune there. I was chuckling after that thinking if I could get in touch with you she would probably have unloaded them all for a buck a piece. Bulbs, lol. No wonder people make money going to yard sales and thrift stores.

Recommend reinstalling the plugin next. It is possible you got a bad installation, so the registry entries required to validate the plugins are not present. The scan usually runs slow enough that you can read what it is scanning, so if that pops up on the toast message, but doesn't show up in the FX list in the CbB browser afterwards, then it didn't pass muster on scan for some reason.

Just to be clear, ASIO4ALL is a WDM wrapper, so not only are you dealing with the translation of a program "thinking" it is using ASIO when it is actually WDM, but also WDM has fallen by the wayside in term of performance (to WASAPI). To parrot the above, ASIO drivers that come with hardware are always preferred.

The "autopitch" functionality provided in CbB comes from Celemony's Melodyne. Melodyne Essential is included with a lot of paid-for DAWs (was also included with SONAR back before it converted to CbB), but you would need a version of Melodyne installed to access all of those features from within CbB. Most DAWs that support it will run Melodyne; it is independent of the DAW host and can be run in standalone mode as well.

I haven't used the unmask feature either but just checked this out quick. Nectar needs to be on the track you want to unmask and Relay needs to be on the source you want to unmask against. If you are running a loop on any of the material you are working with, be sure to set the loop points to the selection you choose (Shift-L)... when I first enabled looping it defaulted so short that the unmask feature couldn't run properly.

48 minutes ago, wiviv said:

The motherboard I’m using appears to have access to 4 ssds

Which motherboard? There are a lot of motherboards now with 4 M.2 slots, but also allow for even more SATA connections. It helps to know what motherboard you are referring to.

As long as an old drive doesn't have the O/S loaded on it (i.e. the old C drive), you can just unplug a drive from one computer and move it to another for the most part. Be sure both machines are powered down and unplugged, and you ground yourself to the case before disconnecting/connecting any drive. The formatting used on the old system drives will still be recognized by Win11. The new machine just needs the available connections (either M.2 or SATA) to connect them all.

1 hour ago, Zo said:

standalone apps

There are still some standalone apps out there that require "ASIO"... some have added Windows defaults (pretty large latency hit), and even fewer have added WASAPI.

I never even knew NOVUM existed until someone mentioned it a few weeks back. They also mentioned that NOVUM rarely goes on sale. It is $75.18 with GROUP applied... has it ever gone on sale better than that?