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2 minutes ago, John Vere said:

http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=Lenses.2.html#:~:text=Cakewalk - Cakewalk Documentation - Using Workspaces&text=Click the Workspaces drop-down,then select the desired Workspace.&text=Configure Cakewalk the way you,menu and select New Workspace.

 

Thanks John - you posted this as I was typing above--------Appreciate it!

So, theoretically, if I open a new project and select View synthrack and then select "apply workspace on project load" for each project I open or start that should work, correct? Also, none stays checked when I do this.

Doesn't work so I guess I need to read about workspaces. Maybe create a NEW workspace and call it synthrack view?

So I did delete (manage workspaces) my old lense....

18 hours ago, Millzy said:

If you click on the dropdown arrow next to where it says 'Workspaces', is 'None' ticked? If so it's working properly. The word 'Workspaces' in that box is just a heading.  As long as 'None' is ticked under that, it shouldn't be doing anything.

Yes it is ticked. I had a "similar" issue a few months ago and it had to do with a Lense (it was called lense when I created it) that was generic except for having the synth rack enabled and showing always. 

It is still in the list, so maybe that is the issue or part of it. Perhaps I it loaded the project with my old lense. Can I delete it from the list?

The issue last time was similar-could NOT control dragging track height up or down with the mouse and synth rack disappears? 

mind boggling really. For me anyway.

EDIT: I know how, well, ridiculous this sounds. It does ONLY happen when I attempt to drag a track to adjust it's height. Just sayin, this is the "trigger" so to speak.

OK, title sounds weird, I know. Here is the issue. I have none checked in lenses and I want it to stay there. The checkbox stays there but Workspace fills the dialog box in Lens. I know it's a workspace, but it also changes what I am doing\seeing\etc. WHY?
Dragging a track down top make it taller(yes I use the mouse) it just jumps to a unmanageable size(tall), like /2 the screen. Seems to take over the visual aspects of CW-like it has a min of it's own.

EDIT: It seems to be triggered by some action I do but I am doing the same things the same way I have for many decades with cakewalk! I cannot pin point it but it sure is annoying.

I wish I could delete (disable) the lense option but checking none does not seem to work. Immediately jumps to workspace, synth rack disappears, etc, etc?

Hopefully someone will understand what I mean. When I drag a track down a bit I want it to stay where I put it. It doesn't. That is only 1 example of many "weird things. It also immediately hides my synth rack view which I LIKE open. frustrating.

Thanks

5 hours ago, lapasoa said:

As soon as you can with yout money, try to pass to a more recent audio interface.

I agree with Rico, Why? I was weary at fist because of the PCI bridge I needed. Once I got it secure, zero issues. I do have a Roland Octa Capture that just sits in the box. 

I thought many times, better upgrade. But always found myself thinking, Why? I have no issues , why fix what isn't broken. Lots of ins\outs, SPDIF, etc.

No issues here using Echo Layla 3G and Win 10x64. My machine has no PCI slots so I had to use an adapter for PCI Express and all is well.

Got great info and advice on the bridge from Colin.

BTW, I am at the LATEST win 10 build......

EDIT: OK so I guess it's just too dumb a question.........

Here I will show my lack of knowledge, but I don't mind.

Never noticed that in the Console for the Echo Layla 3G, which I have had for many, many years is set like this: Core Sample Rate 48khz. This is user changeable. Above it is Sample Rate and it is 41.1khz which is locked I guess due to my recording preferences?

I record, forever, at 44.1\24 as far back as Cakewalk 8 iirc. Don't have any issues (NOW) but I am wondering why this is so. I do use Fractal Audio guitar gear (which is locked at 48khz) but I use the analog outs, so sample rate is irrelevant. The manual tells me nothing. 

I am wondering if this detrimental and all along I never knew?

I do have a Roland Octa-capture sitting in a closet? Can anyone, well I am sure you guys can tell me why this is?

Thanks

42 minutes ago, David Baay said:

Your issue is pretty clearly related to MIDI controllers in some way. The OP indicated his issue affects recorded audio tracks a well, so not likely to be related.

Well David, you nailed my issue. It was the levels on the Echo Layla 3G. But I don't usually keep the windows interface for the Echo open , but I must have or I have a ghost.. So not sure what happen, but the levels for the main outs on the Echo were ridiculously low. Another mystery. 

Thanks so much David!

OK. I'll see what I can track down today. Was pretty tired last night when this happened. Will check suggestions.............I will report back.

First, let me say this may be hardware but wanted to ask here if this sounds familiar to anyone.

So I was working on a project. some midi and some audio. All was fine for an hour. Then when I loaded another project I noticed the volume had dropped hugely. Tried other projects, some all midi, some all audio. Same thing. Meanwhile mic and my Strat were super loud as always. I was wondering if an audio interface could die like that? I have studio monitors, good ones , but also 2 yamaha DXR10's with separate volume controls in the mixer. 

I thought maybe I hit some weird key combo and did something to CWbyBL. Is that possible? Of course the volume drop is everything going thru the Echo Layla 3G.

Just was wondering if any of this sounds familiar. Very strange . Playing straight audio thru the mixer and speakers (which includes the Echo) is really loud and normal. To do this I have to select the Echo outputs (win 10). So it is extremely confusing. The only MAJOR sound loss is using CW????

I will try my Octacapture tomorrow morning, too much time for tonight. But wave\mp3 files play fine thru the system using the Echo?

I did NOT change any prefs either. So that is why I am grasping at some keyboard shortcut I hit or something.

I know, weird post.................I'll post back tomorrow after I try the roland Audio interface 

Thanks

EDIT: I downloaded a midi player app and played some midi only files from my projects. They played fine and very loud. MP3 files play fine and very loud. Only CWbyBL has this issue...as fr as I can tell anyway.....................

Latency really isn't an issue for me because I monitor thru a mixer. Only my vocals and all guitars are audio, rest are VSTS. Midi is big for me, as mentioned already.Since no one seems to have the Presonus 2626 I think this weekend I will do the wise thing and give my Octacapture a a good run thru. Mine is used only in the sense that I bought it. Only use was to make sure it worked. Otherwise it sat in the box in my A\C studio at home.

The Echo Layla 3G works fine with the PCI e adapter but I want the slot back for other reasons.

The octacapture is certainly much more flexible than the Echo. Both drivers are somewhat old though. But both work fine with Win 10.

Echo says use their W8.1 drivers and Roland has Win 10 drivers.  

54 minutes ago, Robert Bone said:

The Quantum 2626 is brand-spanking new, so might be a couple weeks until it starts to show up.  I have a Sweetwater alert, to let me know when one comes into stock.

Bob Bone

I also have set up the alert from Sweetwater. But today I will try out my Roland Octacapture just to see how it performs....................

I have decided that I definitely want the Layla 3G out of the picture.

I am really liking what aI read about the PreSonus Quantum 2626 26x26 Thunderbolt 3 Audio Interface.$599 is a in my arena. Jim R. had nie things to say about it also. I have goten use to the rackmount Echo lalyla 3G form. Fits nicely in with warm audio Mic pre.

Also like this  Gigabyte GC-Titan Ridge (Titan Ridge Thunderbolt 3 PCIe Card Component) $98. or $59 for a lesser Gigabyte model.

Not available yet at Sweetwater where I can buy with nio interest, Hmmm! 

Thanks Alan and Bob - appreciate the input. I do us an  M.2 2280 NVME drive

 for samples-super fast. Part of the reason I posted this was to see about freeing up the other m.2 slot. I need to get rid of the pci E adapter card for the echo Layla 3G PCI card to do that. Hence my inquiry's. The audient line I looked at did NOT have midi. I need midi big time. I know there are ways around this. I have a multitude of Midi devices, boxes, adapters, etc, etc. I should probably sell 3/4's of them.

But I like everything all in one.
I am not a well off person so I probablty should give the Roland Octacapture a shot for real. Never really did, Bought it as a backup.

Hello Robert,

Ausu says my MB is TB3 ready with 5 pin connector. Asus Prime Z370-A

23 hours ago, Robert Bone said:

I happen to have a UAD Arrow Thunderbolt 3 audio interface, that I use with my laptop, for both live performance and for mobile recording sessions.  It is, without a doubt, the most insanely high data transfer rate I have ever seen in an audio interface - just amazing. 

This is a small interface, and there are other Thunderbolt 3 interfaces available with more ins and outs, but for my needs the Arrow is just amazing.  (I had shopped specifically for a laptop that supported Thunderbolt 3, and chose the Dell Alienware 17 R5, which also supports multiple M.2 2280 NVME PCIe drives and a standard SSD).

Bob Bone

Hey Bob

I have to look into that. the Asus MB I have is ready for TB3 adapter. Not sure yet if I would need the converter from TB2 totb3 Jim R. mentioned in another thread. Asus says I don't need the converter though. I need to check, but that's not a deal breaker. I have gotten comfortable over the years with a zillion ins and outs.-Echo Layla 3G is 10\10 aand so is my Octacapture which I have never used. I monitor thru a mixing board.

Thanks.

50 minutes ago, don belisle said:

My main rig still uses a 12 year old  Motu MKIII Firewire with my new Intel i9900 and Asus Motherboard.

My AMD rig uses 6i6 2nd gen from Focusrite (USB type 2).

I like Motu`s 2 newest USB type C interface audio interfaces . Their M2 2x2 ($169) or the M4 4x4 ($219),

both have MIDI, but are USB type C. 

I still use SPDIF for down streaming mixes,  so I`m waiting to order the M4 4X4. 

Otherwise I would have one right now.  Depending on your PC, you might want to add a PCIe  to type C USB adapter card. Luckily I have USB type C on both of my new PCs.

I found this looking for a better cable answer.

https://www.amazon.com/MOTU-M2-USB-C-Audio-Interface/dp/B0812B26TN

From Amazon reviews:

"what type of USB  cable is included?"

"USB C goes into the back of the unit, regular USB A to the computer. It works great!!"

I have a newer MB Asus Prime Z-370 A with a couple of C slots. My PC build is new-I always build my own. I opted for the 8 gen 8700, works great for my needs. Geforce 1060 8GB, 32gb corsair ram, etc, etc, M.2 NVME for samples and Samsung SSD 850 for OS. Audio I still use reg HD, but newest specs-SATA6??

I am thinking about a thunderbolt 3 add on, MB is setup for it.

Thanks

1 hour ago, davet said:

Magma makes a PCI expansion chassis that I've seen UAD users put their PCI cards in. Here' s one on EBay;

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Magma-PE6R4-I-6-Slot-PCI-Express-Expansion-Chassis-w-PCIe-Host-Card/254473727618?epid=1501629385&hash=item3b3fd0ee82:g:YdUAAOSwh8pd-9T-

There might be similar boxes out there. Personally never used one of these so you should query other users.  Keeps your Layla going and works for your budget.

Thanks. I do have an adapter card. Just wondering because the Echo drivers are certainly not updated. 

I have used Asus MB's for decades. Presently, Z-370 Prime A. As far as Wifi, just turn it off in the MB setup-simple. Asus is my go to for MB's. just my opinion of course.

PreSonus Studio 1810c USB-C Audio Interface #399 They have a $499 one also but this seems fine. drivers are my main concern.

So, I was looking at these. Features and price are the main reasons. I am only in a home studio. Wondering about the drives.
Presently, I still use my Echo Layla 3G (with a PCI express adapter card. Echo is PCI only and my new PC does not have any.
It does work OK, but just thinking about upgrading but not sure if this would be an upgrade? Would also be nice to free up the pci express slot for an M.2 nvme or something like that.

Also, I do have a warm Audio Mic Pre that I love. 
$$$ is important, so cannot go RME, etc. $500 tops.
Thanks

Good idea. Thanks RBH

Hello Lombardi

I appreciate the reply. I have found the issue and it is quite, dumb, but also I do not understand it.I use a midiverb 3 for FX(monitoring only) so when I record a vocal I can hear it as dry or wet as I like.

I made a little trs snake with 2 3ft cables. Did that ages ago. I do NOT use the Aux 2 buss for anything, never have. So when I put it all together again I plugged in both sends of both aux busses 1&2. and then to the returns of the midiverb. Never had Aux 2 returns on the board plugged in.

So I just took the cable for buss 2 out of the midverb and out of the mackie send 2 (nothing ever was in returns 2. Just aux send 2. 

That was the issue? That is why one channel was super quiet, distorted somewhat and sounded like pure reverb. 

So what I do not understand is "why"? The midiverb is just ins and out of the fx loop on the mackie. Why the heck would aux 2 send plugged into the midiverb channel 2 make this happen. Unless using both inputs on the midiverb makes it Stereo? Weird. I have used these mackie boards for a long time as stated. Guess before I made the trs snake but realized(duh) that the send 2 plugged in screwed things up. The studio had been setup i the spare bedroom for 10 years up until me tearing it down  5 weeks ago. Maybe I knew more about tha mackie back then and just plain forgot. I am old as dirt. 

I do havce to read up again because I have the mains connected to my studio monitors (Mackie HR624 mkII') which I love. Even a a new spare in case. I run the xlr outs or control room outs to my 2 Yamaha DXR10's when I want to go nuts in the small room.

Need to tweak my setup for a better split. I use midi for everything except all guitars and all vocals. I have tons of VSTS.

Thanks again. I would be curious how you have things setup. I can control the volume thru the monitors of the guitars and vocals but the main 11&12 (main playback) have everything going thru them? The Echo Layla has plenty of ins and outs so I need to revisit that also.

So, 40 views but no replies. In all honesty I understand. Kind of like you need to be here (my studio) to troubleshoot it-I guess.

Oh well, it was a long shot cry for help. No biggie.

So I have used mackie 12 channel compact mixers for decades with Cakewalk, Sonar and now CWbyBL. They have no recording function. Just playback of what I need to hear. As stated previously I tore down my little home studio and redid things. The mixer sits on a rolling rack and never was moved. I did disconnect all cabling. It remained unplugged for 4 or 5 weeks.

so got things going again but step by step. Only the mains to my studio monitors and playback from CWBL are wired up so far. Low and behold I only have one channel. I have switched cables 4X, swapped inputs, etc to determine monitors were ok. Onee channel sound like a distant "reverby" weirdness, very low volume. At first I thought it might be the echo Layla 3G due to the piggyback pci to pci express adapter. Nope. I played media player with mp3's thru the mixer\echo\monitors and the same thing happens. Also the mackie has xlr outs on back, trs out on top. A control room(monitor) outs and and alt out. They all exhibit the same thing.Left channel. no fx send or returns are hooked up. I cannot believe that just sitting there the mackie lost a channel. The 4 busses are supposedly separate but they all exhibit this. Truly strange. oh, almost forgot. My beyer 770 pros do the exact same thing when plugged in the headphone jack of the mackie. 

There is ONE common denominator only - the main mix voulume pot. Of course, it's sealed so I cannot try and clean it. It is common to all the busses.

Just figured I would post this just to see if it rings a bell with anyone. 

Thanks

28 minutes ago, scook said:

Thanks for stopping by.

Well in all honesty-My home studio had to be ripped apart because something was causing me to cough violently - very strange. Actually damaged left lung lining according to emergency room-that's how violent the coughing was. Scrubbed the room, walls, etc,  for days. Ripped out the old carpet, Just getting it back together. No where else to set everything up.

Missed it big time. Should be good to go hopefully. Been in here all day -no issues.