Jimbo 88

18 hours ago, Tezza said:

I'm curious, would you share what program you are using to get AI vocals?

https://dreamtonics.com/en/synthesizerv/?gclid=CjwKCAjw9pGjBhB-EiwAa5jl3MkeI7zF0_CSl_gou9KN0_M2-wpJfOH_Oy3zff-MDZJOlGyq56L_8xoCCdcQAvD_BwE

Synthesizer V

I heard someone say (while discussing AI generating legal arguments), "AI won't eliminate lawyers, but there will be lawyers who use AI and lawyers who don't".   Same is going to happen in the music field.  The ones using will be more productive.    

5 hours ago, aidan o driscoll said:

Yes Jim, but TBH it wont stop you or I producing music .. However where it could cause issues is in the employment of musicians/artists in various settings who would normally be producing audio but  now replaced by AI to do same job.

Many here are looking at this AI and saying nope it will have no effect on me in making my music, I will continue. That is correct. But where the effect will be is on jobs in the music and graphics and film  industry where the corporates will see AI as in there control, cheaper and faster so more profit for them. Dont need no pesky troublesome demanding humans no more

Point well taken.  But I am way past that.  That already happened to me around 2010 when music libraries sprung up and every band started making there tracks available for film and TV.  There are about 30,000 songs uploaded everyday already.  It already bit me.  Just like how I bit the old guys back in the 1980's when midi was invented and i figured out how to create tracks without a band being recorded in a million dollar studio.

I don't need a machine to tell me how to generate a  chord progression or a melody or how to eq.   What i can use is AI vocals to let me hear my compositions ( I am already doing this and loving it).

AI will be great for making suggestions, but not for doing anything original because it can only go back and use what has already been done. I've tried writing songs with AI and if you don't have a great starting point or story it's not going to do you much good.  Again it's great at making suggestions.  AI for songwriting is a glorified thesaurus.

Band in a Box and any drum loop program  do pretty much the same thing already.   We've had AI in different versions for years.

16 hours ago, Canopus said:

 I should know.

 

Yes! Canopus, you are one of the people I stole from (probably the main guy).   So, my hat's off to you and thanks!

  craigb!  Cool!  I did not know!   Very impressive.

The only thing I can come anywhere close...you know when cars 1st started talking to you?

I recorded the woman who said,  "Your door is ajar, Your door is ajar".

So I got that going for me.

Even better I love the look of the knobs

OK, so it started out I wanted to tweak one little thing and I ended up going down a huge rabbit hole.    Next thing I I know I'm messing around with Themes.  Very painful as i don't know what I'm doing and had a lot of bad outcomes before I finally just stopped.   I'm not gonna lie, I stole a lot of things from various themes others created.  Copying and pasting as I went along.  Notice the personal logo under the tool bar. The idea stolen from XEL Ohh.           And all its gonna take is one update to come along and this will have been all for ...nothing.                                

So in the late 80's I was a blue collar freelance audio mixer/music composer/keyboard player scraping for jobs around Chicago.  I was like Bitflipper, I saw all these new synths that I just could not afford.  Many of my competitors where buying New England Digital Synclaviers.  No way I could afford that. And too scared to go to the bank and ask for loan that would have bought me house.

I was doing OK with my Alesis MMT 8 which I could program drums, bass, a few synths (with a Proteus?).  Sync it to a tape machine and record guitars and singers and produce a jingle. I was scraping by, but happy.

Then Cable TV came along (Chicago was the center for documentary creators)  and music beds were in great demand.   Long story short, the MMT8 was woefully inadequate.  I explained this to my old college roommate who then was working for Geetar Center and he GAVE me CAKEWALK 3.1. 

For at least 7 years I used version 3.1 on a laptop with a 20 meg hard drive . I still have that rig and can fire it up today.  I was so busy scoring Cable TV shows I worked about 360 days a year, about 85-100 hours a week in my basement.  

I would not say I became rich, but pretty dang close.  I felt so guilty for using a pirated Cakewalk disk I purchased every update even tho I use little more than the sequencing side and can do that with just the most basic features.  In fact, the less features the better for me.  I'll never forget when I started  checking out this forum and people would mention the Console View.     I was like, "What?! there is a really cool mixer section to this software I've been using all these years and did not know about!" 

Anyway I have always gotten a kick out of coming to this forum.  I could always get great advice.  I shake my head when someone comes on and says they can't get CAKE to work, or it's features are not pro enough...I mean I got it to work under the most primitive conditions and I am not a knowledgeable computer person to say the least.    And I'll gladly compare my body of work with anyone else's using whatever software.    

Did somebody mention CJ in this tread?

I was thinking about him and My Ol' Pal...are they still around here?

So they are going to update staff view...:)

and add AI features (like voices).  That's the "talent" vst plugin we've all been talking about for years.

Who needs hoover cars with that around and available.  I'm not going anywhere except for my computer.

20 hours ago, bjornpdx said:

That's AI? The last time I checked on vocal AI it was terrible.  But this sounds pretty decent.  So you can download Synthesizer V and use it on your own computer?
-Bjorn

Yep,  I picked up Synthesizer V and Kevin (the male vocalist) for $98, then Solaria and Asterian bundled from another site was $162.   So for $260 I have a pretty good stable of singers all on my computer.  Write the song in CbB, export midi into Synthesizer V (there is a learning curve! not to bad), back into CbB for mixing.

Crazy.

Home Planet

6 hours ago, Pragi said:

The screen has shown the  Code 502 for about an hour on my side.

There is something happening in the background, I' m curious about the new update of Cakewalk and the HP.

+1

Or am I crazy?

Ok so I tried to get to this site a couple of times and the site was down.  Now that its back up things look ever so slightly different.  Fonts are different?  I thought for sure there was going to be an update when it came back online.

I do know I'm crazy, but am I imagining things?

1 hour ago, treesha said:

I think this is the first song using ai vocals thats been posted here? What did you use? I did wonder how you could be auditioning for a musical and going to try to write it too. The voice I think I thought sounded least pleasing was a black male voice going very low. 

I was not communicating very well.   I was auditioning voices for a musical.

Here is the process...write the song in CbB.  Export a XML file into Sibelius for arranging.  Export a  Sibelius midi file into a program called Synthesizer V which generated wav files of the vocals (after tweaking).   Import the wav files back into CbB for mixing.  I used the voices Solaria, Kevin  and Asterian

https://dreamtonics.com/synthesizerv-gen1/en/

This is kinda of a test...

Those are AI voices!!!!

See!  I was right.  This is the best forum...

THANKS for all the great info.

So I'm auditioning for a musical I'm thinking I'm  gonna try to write.

What do you think of the singers?

Take Me Down Musical Version v2.mp3

This isn't directly a "CbB" question, but this is by far the best forum anywhere.  So I ask:  

 My computer is going on 5+ years old.   I no longer have the business or income to justify constantly replacing my computer (no one feel bad for me, I made way too much money working on Cakewalk for many, many years).

How  hard is it to clone  my C drive?  will I have to re register Windows and everything else?  Should I just bite the bullet and by a whole new computer because something else might fail anyway?   My current computer is pretty decent, but will an upgrade take advantage of newer programs?

THANKS!!  --in advance.

Is that Bapu second to the end?

{edited}  --  I just realized they are all forum guys.  My bad.

I was really just trying to talk about the update without talking about the update....

Is that what's coming?

more than one thread disappeared...It might have been my fault

... and this is why we just can't have good things around here.   We just break them.

My setup in the 70's was much the same

11 hours ago, 57Gregy said:

only thing different was I had a Moog Prodigy as a synth. It was the least expensive synth at the time.

I bought my wurly used (cheap) from the touring 3 Dog Night keyboardist in an ally on the north side of Chicago (1977?).   It was beatup really bad and had many slightly out of tune notes and volume issues.  If you put your fingers on the chords for "Joy To The World" you could feel those notes where worn more than others.

I picked up the Moog Prodigy so i could have something to solo with.  I Had to constantly tune it as it would drift depending on how hot it was.

Good times.

Ok I fell for it....Picked up Synth V and Kevin for $97 USD here: 

https://www.dlsite.com/soft/

You have to make sure you get the discount at the beginning... and every time you check out (Had to do it multiple times due to the registration process)

I've spent all day programing my new AI Vocals.