Billy86

https://masters-of-music.com/1st-gen-focusrite-scarletts-work-with-2nd-gen-drivers-for-lower-latency/

The above link reports that you can use the 2nd Generation drivers for a range of 1st Gen Scarlett I/Os and significantly lower their latency. Has anyone tried this? What were the results? Thanks. 

I have a vocal track composed of 9 individual clips. I used Melodyne on each clip as a region effect, one clip at a time, so it was small chunks. Once I was happy with them I rendered each region effect to its clip.

Now, I'm trying to bounce that track with all the Melodyne-rendered clips to a new track so I have a single vocal take. Using Tracks/Bounce to Tracks, CbB hangs immediately at "mixing down audio" and stops responding. So, I tried to use Export Audio thinking I could use that as a workaround and export the track to a .wav file, and then bring it back into the project. Same result. CbB hangs immediately at "mixing down audio" and stops responding. 

Any ideas why this might be happening? Thanks for any suggestions... 

Appreciate everyone weighing in! That's what I love about this community -- everyone is willing to share their experience and insights... lots of passion.

I spent a lot of time reading the manual (including the section on using reference tracks) and watched every video tutorial I could get my eyes on before pulling the trigger on it. It's a pretty amazing suite IMHO. I feel lucky to have it. It's not "set it and forget it," but it gives you a great place to start based on what you feed into it -- especially if you use a reference track. Which I do.  Like any dynamic piece of software, there's a learning curve, but I think I'm off to solid start.

As I said, I don't think I was clear in my original question. I'm familiar with all the issues raised in the thread.  I just didn't want CbB and OZ8 BOTH applying dithering to get from the original .wav mixdown track to an MP3.  I ultimately figured it out (set dithering to none in the Export Audio GUI and let OZ8 do the dithering on the master bus). As scook pointed out, the one sure way is to Export the .wav mixdown file out of CbB and into the stand-alone version of OZ8. That takes CbB out of the equation all together. Working on a second project that way.

Stoaked to keep working with it. Cheers... Billy

5 minutes ago, Greg Graves said:

Dude!  First off, you can simply insert Ozone on the Master Buss when the mix is complete.  Secondly, novice use of Ozone is FULL of pitfalls, like the 'louder is better' trap and wind up smashing the mix into a squashed wave with Ozone's limiter.  Use K14 on your meters.  Lastly, unless you have some really good monitors, and you have tested your listening environment with RoomEQWizard 5.0 or the like, your mastering efforts are doomed.

Thanks for weighing in.

Thanks, scook.  I'm afraid I'm not explaining myself very well. I know to create the final MP3 from a .wav. 

At any rate, I think I've figure it out. I exported an MP3 from CbB with "none" selected in the dithering option. That will keep the stereo track's output signal hitting the master bus undithered,  Then, I have OZ8 on the master bus handling the dithering duties.

4 hours ago, scook said:

This. Although consider exporting at the render bit depth set in CbB instead of the record bit depth. The default render depth is 32. Check your preferences.

Thanks scook. Have set the render depth to 32. I want the final mastered file to be an MP3, dithered by Ozone. When I set the Export Audio file type in CbB to .wav, I end up with a .wav file.  I've learned a little more about Ozone, I'm still a bit confused as to the best way to get to an MP3 file in a CbB--Ozone signal flow.

The Ozone manual says this: 

Codec Preview is at the very end of the signal chain within Ozone. When you are using Ozone as a plug-in, it is important that Ozone is placed after all other inserts if you are using Codec Preview. This will ensure that the signal going into Codec Preview includes all of the processing being applied to the mix.

Codec Preview is intended to be used for previewing only and will not apply actual MP3 or AAC compression when exporting from the Ozone application or a DAW.  You can use the Codec Preview feature to help inform the export settings of your host application, but be sure to disable the feature prior to exporting.

So it looks like I'll have to use CbB to output the MP3. When I choose that as the export audio file type, the only option for Bit Depth is 16. Should I assume CbB is doing the dithering to get from the original mixdown stereo file's render bit depth to the final MP3 bit depth? I'm assuming double-dithering is not a place I want to go, so should I disable it in Ozone?

Hi. I'm new to the mastering world and I'm confused as to settings in CbB as they relate to my new mastering plugin, Ozone 8. (Thanks Santa!)

Basically, I'm trying to understand how CbB's export audio function and Ozone 8's mastering duties interact. I have a mixdown stereo wave file of the song, exported from CbB at the same sample and bit rate as I recorded, 44.1/24 with no dithering (I want O8 to handle that). I have brought that "raw" wave file into a new session of CbB for mastering. So I have the wave file on a track that outputs to the master, on which I've inserted Ozone 8. I want O8 to handled all the "output to MP3" and dithering (down to 16 bit) duties. The O8 manual instructs that it should be the last thing to touch the audio, especially because of its dithering duties. 

My question: In my mastering session, when I "File\Export Audio" from CbB, and the output is passing audio through O8 on the master bus, do I set CbB export parameters to 44.1/24bit wave file -- because I want the "raw" stereo mixdown of the recording passing through O8, and it will be doing the conversion to 44.1/16bit MP3? If I set CbB "export audio" as 16bit MP3, does O8 then perform those functions AGAIN because I've set it up that way?  

Thanks for any help.

Billy

19 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

Yes 2019.01 is the latest version. There is something wrong with the back end reporting the incorrect version to CbB thats why its not detecting it. We're waiting for it to be fixed. For now go ahead and install from BandLab assistant.

Okay. Thanks!

Sorry, I'm confused. RE: "Great job on the Plug-in Manager in 2019.01" 

Is 2019.01 the latest version of CbB??

When I "check for updates" from the Help menu in CbB, it say's I'm up to date. My version is 24.11.0.31. When I launch BandLab Assistant, the Apps tab says "A new version is available

. 

Do I have the latest version? The faster Plugin Manager sounds great!

Thanks,

Billy

I’d like to know this as well. For example, I’d like to record a MIDI performance of a left hand on a piano and then play the right hand part separately while monitoring the left hand notes. Then combine both into a single MIDI track. This sounds like the way to do that. Thanks. 

On 1/2/2019 at 4:29 PM, Craig Anderton said:

Don't overlook Steve's comment that "Some use an even higher value." I needed 2500 on one computer and 4500 on another one. I'm not sure why I needed values this high, but everything works, and nothing seems to have been impacted negatively.

I was having the same issue and increasing to 2500 as Craig suggests solved it. Also,  see this: https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=NewFeatures.37.html

Activate MIDI chase function and see if it helps. It did for an issue I was having with what seemed like sporadic MIDI playback.

Thanks for the input guys.  I’ll check out the Focusrite recommendations. 

Cool. Hit and miss. Process of elimination. I’m on it. 

I’ve got an i5 processor (4 cores) and am running on an SSD. (Specs in sig) i’ve maxxed out my RAM at 32 gigs. I’d like to make sure I’m taking  the most advantage of RAM that I can. 

Are there settings I can tweak to get the most mileage out of RAM? Thanks and Happy New Year!

3 hours ago, scook said:

This is a known issue with Melodyne 4.2.  To get around this problem first open the clip as a Melodyne Region FX clip, make sure the algorithm is set properly then try dragging the clip to the timeline.

 

May have the same issue with audio to MIDI. The same workaround applies.

 

I believe Celemony will provide the last 4.1 release if you contact support. This version should work as expected.

I’m having the same issue. Scook, “make sure the algorithm is set properly...”. What’s the proper algorithm? Thanks. 

That did it. Thank you!

3 minutes ago, scook said:

There is a menu on the left side. If "Display Name" is there try clicking it. It the "change" and "Display Name" menu option are not available or do not work PM @Jesse Jost

Hi Scook. Yep, Display Name is there, but not accessible to change it. I'll PM Jesse as you suggest. Thanks.

On 12/21/2018 at 10:31 AM, scook said:

You beat me to it.

 

Use the menu in the upper right to get into Account Settings and change the display name

Hi. I can go into account settings, and I see my "display name" but it's  not accessible/clickable to edit. The email address right below is a clickable "change" link, but not the display name. Any ideas? Thanks. 

Just arrived from the “old “ forum. Seeing quite a few familiar folks.