Olaf

I haven't seen any switch for that, but to access the old dialog you can choose Export from within your Control Bar module.

What do you mean?

Yeah, that's what I still use. To be honest, I don't see the point to the new dialog, which does everything you could very easily already do before. I mean if you waned to export without effects, you can select all tracks (CTRL+A), then click on the FX rack On/Off, then export. It's not hard; if you wanted it without sends, you can open up all sends buses, select, mute, then export. I don't see much utility in replacing the On/Off on the tracks with a check box in the dialog, still the same thing, only with more clutter to manage. But, hey, it's and addition, to a diminution, so I don't mind. What I would do is solve the End of Project recognition on export, which many have complained about, since automatic recognition obviously doesn't work, for several reasons, one of them being that automations are still handled at least clumsily, and ghost automations are hard to identify and impossible to remove; and it's so easy to solve - just insert a marker, like a transport cursor with a big E on top of it, that ends the project where it's placed. That's it, problem solved, no more recognition, no more nothing; make it easy to open up the buses pane, with a toggle Show/Hide button inserted on the Multidock; instead of dragging and scrolling and fitting them back to size all the time. Side Multidock (Browser, Synth Rack, Help, all that) available in the Console View; so easy to insert FX, instead of the big menu, which is also good - and love the new fonts, I've never commented on that; that's what I always use, I found a workaround to make it available, but it opens over the tracks instead of pushing them to the side, so more scrolling is needed to insert in the tracks to the right; drag and drop create instrument track in the Console View, from the Browser; why need to switch views to do that? easy to Open/Close the Sends with an easy access toggle button instead of a menu; that bugs me to no end; global Send FX On/Off for selected tracks, for individual buses; an All On/Off control for all instances of a specific plugin in the FX rack, by select all, ctrl+click on the power button of any of them; horizontal scrolling on mouse hover over the horizontal scroll bar. These are options that are needed and, among others, will also make it so much easier to choose all export options in the DAW before even hitting export, with just as much effort, but these simplifications are much more deeply reaching than that. ___________ I am SO PLEASANTLY IMPRESSED with the Browser, Synth Rack, and Help windows in the side Multidock now remembering their order and size in the project. Been waiting for so long for that. Also with the collapse state retention of the one-knob modules in the PC. Wow! There is a light at the end of the tunnel. 👍

It's ok, I don't mind, I have no problem with the old dialog, I was wondering if it might have been a slip.

No sound coming out, and playback working intermittently in 2021.06. https://we.tl/t-Nsva1wSCmN

When exporting from the Control Bar, the export dialog is the old one.

All audio dropping out, randomly, on export, on 06 update 1. Not the first time it happened, additionally other times it "just" gets garbled. https://we.tl/t-8kPA6Oisqg

Most likely Windows Defender. It's completely idiotic. It's deleted or disabled more of my software than pretty much all the viruses I've encountered, except the ogdo. I like to use portables, whenever I can, and it deletes or blocks all of them, on every occasion, and sometimes it's the same behavior you've reported. Sometimes the exe is open in Task Manager, but no GUI is allowed to open. Other times, it closes everything altogether. It even tries to delete itself, or the svchost - and that on a clean install. I've disabled the automatic scan from the policies, and now it tells me it needs to scan, and if I ignore it long enough it starts doing it by itself, and still deletes stuff. It's almost obsessive-compulsive. Doesn't ask, doesn't warn. Doesn't care, doesn't consider what you say. It's got some mad cow in it.

Too late 🙂. I've ryzened up. Found a deal for a 5800X ROG STRIX system, whose former owner mines crypto, so he bought it for the graphic card, which he couldn't find otherwise, and sold everything else for about 60% of what it would have normally cost, even second hand. I had been mulling over it for a while, so just got it. The only problem is I have a gen2 graphic board, and, for some reason the legacy mode doesn't get saved in the motherboard UEFI, which means I can't mount the system until I get a gen4 graphic board, which is expensive, too, and I have no budget for it now. I don't game, just need it to run video. So the new, almost complete system - with only the graphics missing - has been looking at me for two weeks, and looks like it's about to do some more looking. I've only heard great things about 5th gen Ryzens. I can't imagine it being worse, architecture wise, than my current FX - which is not bad, only outdated and underpowered for new gen plugins, especially CLAs, which I use a lot of. The point is that the optimization for AMD altogether might be something to look over.

I've seen the same crashes, errors, etc., reported by several people, on different occasions, and people using the same stuff reporting no problem, which is weird. it's almost like talking about two different programs. i've recently seen a forum comment of someone talking about switching from intel to ryzen amd. he said the new processor outclassed his former i9, but after the change he started to experience crashes he never experienced before - welcome to the real world, right? 😝 i'm starting to think there's a connection.

Twilight Zone. Are you on Intel or AMD?

If you can provide details on this we'll investigate. I haven't heard of other reports of this. @Jonathan Sasor I've remembered what it was - it was neither the order nor the on/off state, it was the collapsed state - at least for Space, Depth and the Smoocher/Smoother, haven't tried the rest. Maybe Rematrix Solo, but am not sure. You can check with all modules and see which pop up.

I don't use templates, whenever I have a new project, just think of the closest project in terms of sound and instrument layout, and open that one, delete all clips, save as new. There you go - already mixed 🤭. Obviously I do the changes in terms of sounds - synths, amps, reverbs, EQ, compression, FX tones and atmospheres - pretty much everything - afterwards, but it already has all the plugins in place, and the tracks already setup. The options are not saved in Workspaces, though, or in the project info.

In Cakewalk? That's even weirder. I use the vst3, too, it never saves that. I've never tried automating it - but I guess that's not a question of saving it, but of automatically re-reading the setting on playback.

Great to hear. It's been buggingsome (new word, probably). I am using a workspace, yes. From what I gather workspaces don't store those settings, anyway - it'd be nice if they did, as they are part of the overall layout - so it shouldn't matter, should it? But the workspace was created with those meter settings already applied, just to be safe, so even if they did, they should be there. Yeah, and it's actually free. Variety of Sound page, they've just released the 64 bit version, the 32 bit had the same problem. It looks like it's the plugin, though. I've also tried in Reason, for 2 out of 3, and it's got the same problem. So the setting doesn't get stored in CW and Reason, but it gets stored in Harrison. Weird. interesting to see what the difference is with them. I've also reported the issue to VoS. Really cool delay, weird looking, but cool. One of my go tos, and I've got a bunch of them. I haven't used the PC in a while, cause now I'm a huge CLA Mixhub fan (which also has a problem, it doesn't store intermediate compressor release settings between some fixed resolution points, and it always reverts to the closest one of those on open, which I also need to redo on every open and it bugs the s*** out of me - logged a report with them, most of what I've reported they've fixed, but this one still lingers), so I don't remember exactly, it was either the order or the on/off state of some modules that I had to redo every time I opened a project. No, I don't change them at all, that's the thing - I mean, not willingly. It's a set it and forget it kind of thing, only the "set it" part doesn't work. In the meantime, I have given up even setting them altogether, cause it takes too long to do - hence the menu issue - and it reverts back to the old resolution the next time. I don't know how much an all-in-one settings window would take to program, but it would be a big simplification for adjusting that setting. I appreciate the detailed answer.

I've attached the link here. https://we.tl/t-O3sckikbzg You will need Addictive Keys (Electric Grand) on Piano, T-FM on Orga, AAS Player on Synth and Orgi Biserică (Church organs), SSD 5 Free for the furthermost left drums, and Tony Coleman Drums 16 Out, to insert yourself - all as instrument tracks, except for SSD, which has individually routed outs. To reproduce: Delete all TCD tracks, including the group Aux, as those were added subsequently. In the resulting layout, delete the Piano track, then insert TCD 16 Out from the right click Insert Instrument menu command. Choose route to master. Then bulk undo both of them from undo history. Last night I made several moves after that, which got bulk undone in the process - some observations there, as well - but they were not related to synth inserts, so they shouldn't matter in this individual matter. Another thing I have mentioned previously, and was never addressed, was the synth names are displayed wrong, in all projects, on hovering the mouse pointer over them, in the rack - IF the rack window is smaller than the area of the racked synths AND you scroll down. I don't know if the track switch, in this case, was made in accordance with possible wrong names displayed that way, but it would, no doubt, be interesting to check. Hopefully you can reproduce it. If we're on the topic, the order of the Rack, Browser and Help windows, in the right side dock, never gets saved with the project. Neither does the Show/Hide Arranger Track state in the Track View. And neither do the Meter Options, in the Track View. Also, NastyDLA doesn't save its Wet Only state, which I thought was because of the plugin, only I've noticed it doesn't happen in Harrison Mixbus. The order of some One Knobs - or the on/off state, I don't remember - doesn't get saved in the PC strip. So that's five more things that could get fixed for the next update. And on the meter options topic - the intricate menu, with a million individual options, to click on separately, is criminal. How about one single menu option - "Meter Options" - which open a dialog window with bullet checks for all the options, so you could set them all at once, in a single place, instead of clicking about 20 times, with three level menu branching for each, to set them all, like now? That would be a significant simplification requiring no user sacrifice/adaptation.

I agree with you, it's easier in terms of assignments and I/Os, switches, sound auditions, inserting and changing synths, and so on. The problem is you also get a lot of tracks for every instrument, and it gets messy to navigate and instantly tell which is which, and tiresome to follow. Intuitive is being able to do without thinking, on reflex or common sense assessments - for instance, if you were new to it, etc. That's why I suggested the idea above, which gets the best of both aspects, and is more logical, in principle.

Thanks, Andres, no, it was a bunch of stuff - basically everything got switched with everything - Addictive Keys with SSD, two instances of AAS Player and one T-FM, all randomly switched places after a cascade undo involving the deleting of a synth track and creating a different one. Might have to do with the multiple output assignments, which it can't manage right. Maybe it got fixed in the 06 #2. I split all tracks, reassigned I/Os, and regrouped them as instruments, and that solved it, cause you can't easily track assign synths from the rack, which would have made more sense. I don't get Instrument Tracks - they seem to be neither here nor there. There should be output/mix tracks - those in the console, and source tracks - those in the sequencer, which would be of two kinds - MIDI and audio. The FX box of the output track assigned to the source track would be available in the source track pane in the Track View, just like now, for quick edits. And you would freely associate synths with source/MIDI tracks, as well as output tracks, from menus in the rack. Maybe a button to lock associations, if you're afraid you might screw up something. And that's it.

Nevermind, I've solved it. Lost an hour of my life. Maybe the problem would get solved in the near future.

CW just messed up all the track-synth associations, in the middle of a project. Anybody know how to unmess them?

I have it on automatic background scan because I want it to update itself on VST changes, but normally it would scan the shell and if no change is found, move on. The difference is now it rescans every module.

After the update, CW rescans all Waves plugins on almost every single start. Need to wait for a couple of minutes on every open, otherwise the projects load with plugins missing.

This is what I call doing business. A week ago, I made a suggestion to Overloud, about their new Supercabinet. I didn't even contact them, it was just a comment to one of their videos. Today they've launched a new version, exactly to implement that feature. It took them a week. No comments, no to and fro. It's their interest to make their product better. And from what I've seen the first reactions are positive. And I'll be happy to use the feature. This is what I'm talking about.

You've just set a limit to "doing it right", to 4 bands plus filters. It follows that all fully parametric EQs with unlimited bands, in the world, are for those who "do it wrong". I seriously don't think that's the case, and I can quickly give you an 8 area EQ template as a default. No one has to do anything. But you won't be able to take part in a discussion on 85 topics , or 50, or 30, unless you read about them. It is the way it is. Personally, I don't only read titles. And if you're looking for certain features in a DAW, you're gonna have to take part in the topics about them. It's a favor you're doing yourself, not anybody else. That maybe sounds like a little too many motivational books, right there. I don't need to make anything work, I didn't even need to come up with ideas. It's not my job to, and I have no personal stakes in it. I don't have a personal crusade to change CW. I have done that as a well intended initiative to put my ideal version of the DAW out there. Further down, it's everyone's prerogative to support, for themselves, what they also wish to have as features, and it's CW's prerogative to improve their product, in whichever way makes sense, as they're looking to have a competitive DAW. People can get together and support those changes they want themselves, I didn't intend it as a personal favor to me, and there's no point in making it an 8 hour job to convince anybody of anything. It's neither an ego trip, nor a personal pursuit. Moreover, the suggestions are already explained in full, and if anybody needs any further clarification on something, they can just ask - I've had talks with those who wished to participate, on several of them, and some were quite nice.

@murat k.@Teegarden Thank you guys for your encouragement, but I don't think posting individual posts for now around 85 suggestions would be a good idea. The amount of reading would be the same, it would just be harder to navigate, correlate and follow the suggestions, the overlapping and repeated ideas, etc. Anyway, if people are too lazy to read through a 5 minute text, I don't think following 85 separate posts will be easier. My idea was simple - people would read, and say "I agree with C4" or "I want B16, too", or whichever, or just quote what they like, and whoever else wanted the same thing could give it a like. If anybody had an additional idea, they could suggest it, and have it added. This way we could have created a group effort, which would have had a little more impact, and correlate all ideas together, cause many pertain to similar aspects or the same general workflow, etc. For instance, another idea I have for the EQ, that I haven't added to the list, would be the optional doubling of the EQ bands, to a total of 8 bands + the filters, via an interface button. Basically add another row of knobs in the interface, sharing the same visualizer, via a button that says "(switch to) 8-band" or similar. Personally I found that 4 band is a little limitative, and many times I need more. 8 bands would turn it into a power house, and pretty much cover any EQ needs. Programming wise, I think it would be nothing, just insert another EQ module in the same track, without the additional visualizer and filters. It could be done in a few hours.