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7 hours ago, Gswitz said:
Keep at it.
You disabled usb select suspend in advanced power settings?
Removed unnecessary devices?
Click start button, type background, click disable all background services.
In latency monitor, what is still listed in driver tab at the top sorted descending.
yes I disabled them all and removed the unnecessary devices and programs. also disabled the background services.
still shows wdf01000.sys which has the highest number.
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7 hours ago, Promidi said:
You say you record at 96K. You also stated that changing windows audio setting to 48 khz and the pops go away.
From that, I gather that changing windows audio setting to 48 khz and the pops return.
Just confirming. As well as recording at 96K, Are your projects also set to 96K (under tempo)
Preferences | Audio | Driver settings > Default settings for new project , set to 96K? (I am assuming so)yes I record all my project at 96khz . If you change windows audio setting from 96khz to 48 khz pops go away and if I set it back to 96khz it will start again.
I set to 96 khz for my new projects under Preferences | Audio | Driver settings > Default settings for new project.
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some update:
I installed windows 10 ver 1709 and installed my audio device driver. no pops and crackles. every thing is working perfect . I download all the windows 10 updates to see if the updates cause the issue. I got the ver 1909 which is the latest windows 10 version. All the pops and crackles came back. So it means some thing is wrong with the new version of windows 10.
I hope someone have a solution.
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4 minutes ago, Promidi said:
I was asking whether you disabled Intel Speedstep (and possibly C-States) via Windows or did you do it in the BIOS?
I disabled it in bios and also put the power option in windows on high performance. sorry if I didn't understand yourInsert other media question
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as soon as I change the windows audio setting (bottom right corner) to 24 bit 48 khz pops go away.
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4 hours ago, Promidi said:
Did you disable Intel Speedstep (and possibly C-States) via Windows or BIOS?
yes I did.
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4 hours ago, Gswitz said:
Usb is showing up in your report.
Are you sure that you have disabled select suspend? How about power save on usb hubs in device manager? Unplug all but your interface, mouse and keyboard. Is your keyboard wireless?
Windows key+x... Select device manager.
What is this coming from?
Yes I disabled the suspend by going to device manager and going to power management on each universal serial bus controller drop down.mouse and keyboard is wireless
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here is the latency mon result:
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CONCLUSION
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Your system appears to be having trouble handling real-time audio and other tasks. You are likely to experience buffer underruns appearing as drop outs, clicks or pops. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates.
LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for 0:19:40 (h:mm:ss) on all processors.
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SYSTEM INFORMATION
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Computer name: DESKTOP-UCDQN6E
OS version: Windows 10 , 10.0, build: 18363 (x64)
Hardware: All Series, ASUS, ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC., SABERTOOTH Z87
CPU: GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
Logical processors: 8
Processor groups: 1
RAM: 24511 MB total
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CPU SPEED
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Reported CPU speed: 3506 MHzNote: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results.
WARNING: the CPU speed that was measured is only a fraction of the CPU speed reported. Your CPUs may be throttled back due to variable speed settings and thermal issues. It is suggested that you run a utility which reports your actual CPU frequency and temperature.
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MEASURED INTERRUPT TO USER PROCESS LATENCIES
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The interrupt to process latency reflects the measured interval that a usermode process needed to respond to a hardware request from the moment the interrupt service routine started execution. This includes the scheduling and execution of a DPC routine, the signaling of an event and the waking up of a usermode thread from an idle wait state in response to that event.Highest measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 3116.10
Average measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 3.438508Highest measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 3111.30
Average measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 1.962624
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REPORTED ISRs
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Interrupt service routines are routines installed by the OS and device drivers that execute in response to a hardware interrupt signal.Highest ISR routine execution time (µs): 12.729036
Driver with highest ISR routine execution time: USBPORT.SYS - USB 1.1 & 2.0 Port Driver, Microsoft CorporationHighest reported total ISR routine time (%): 0.001528
Driver with highest ISR total time: Wdf01000.sys - Kernel Mode Driver Framework Runtime, Microsoft CorporationTotal time spent in ISRs (%) 0.001565
ISR count (execution time <250 µs): 350109
ISR count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 500-999 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 1000-1999 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 2000-3999 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0
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REPORTED DPCs
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DPC routines are part of the interrupt servicing dispatch mechanism and disable the possibility for a process to utilize the CPU while it is interrupted until the DPC has finished execution.Highest DPC routine execution time (µs): 2913.868796
Driver with highest DPC routine execution time: Wdf01000.sys - Kernel Mode Driver Framework Runtime, Microsoft CorporationHighest reported total DPC routine time (%): 0.451589
Driver with highest DPC total execution time: Wdf01000.sys - Kernel Mode Driver Framework Runtime, Microsoft CorporationTotal time spent in DPCs (%) 0.495138
DPC count (execution time <250 µs): 4073819
DPC count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0
DPC count (execution time 500-999 µs): 27258
DPC count (execution time 1000-1999 µs): 578
DPC count (execution time 2000-3999 µs): 538
DPC count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0
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REPORTED HARD PAGEFAULTS
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Hard pagefaults are events that get triggered by making use of virtual memory that is not resident in RAM but backed by a memory mapped file on disk. The process of resolving the hard pagefault requires reading in the memory from disk while the process is interrupted and blocked from execution.NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit.
Process with highest pagefault count: chrome.exe
Total number of hard pagefaults 244
Hard pagefault count of hardest hit process: 77
Number of processes hit: 14
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PER CPU DATA
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CPU 0 Interrupt cycle time (s): 69.991134
CPU 0 ISR highest execution time (µs): 12.729036
CPU 0 ISR total execution time (s): 0.147585
CPU 0 ISR count: 349973
CPU 0 DPC highest execution time (µs): 2913.868796
CPU 0 DPC total execution time (s): 46.345489
CPU 0 DPC count: 4012930
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CPU 1 Interrupt cycle time (s): 4.001150
CPU 1 ISR highest execution time (µs): 3.467199
CPU 1 ISR total execution time (s): 0.000101
CPU 1 ISR count: 126
CPU 1 DPC highest execution time (µs): 1988.290930
CPU 1 DPC total execution time (s): 0.328383
CPU 1 DPC count: 72494
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CPU 2 Interrupt cycle time (s): 3.027617
CPU 2 ISR highest execution time (µs): 4.767827
CPU 2 ISR total execution time (s): 0.000009
CPU 2 ISR count: 2
CPU 2 DPC highest execution time (µs): 198.719909
CPU 2 DPC total execution time (s): 0.048499
CPU 2 DPC count: 11390
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CPU 3 Interrupt cycle time (s): 2.583222
CPU 3 ISR highest execution time (µs): 6.250998
CPU 3 ISR total execution time (s): 0.000039
CPU 3 ISR count: 8
CPU 3 DPC highest execution time (µs): 27.620080
CPU 3 DPC total execution time (s): 0.001045
CPU 3 DPC count: 325
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CPU 4 Interrupt cycle time (s): 2.803244
CPU 4 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0.0
CPU 4 ISR total execution time (s): 0.0
CPU 4 ISR count: 0
CPU 4 DPC highest execution time (µs): 36.407302
CPU 4 DPC total execution time (s): 0.006912
CPU 4 DPC count: 2128
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CPU 5 Interrupt cycle time (s): 2.839050
CPU 5 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0.0
CPU 5 ISR total execution time (s): 0.0
CPU 5 ISR count: 0
CPU 5 DPC highest execution time (µs): 21.018825
CPU 5 DPC total execution time (s): 0.002314
CPU 5 DPC count: 555
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CPU 6 Interrupt cycle time (s): 2.760934
CPU 6 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0.0
CPU 6 ISR total execution time (s): 0.0
CPU 6 ISR count: 0
CPU 6 DPC highest execution time (µs): 193.879064
CPU 6 DPC total execution time (s): 0.007441
CPU 6 DPC count: 1862
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CPU 7 Interrupt cycle time (s): 2.683570
CPU 7 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0.0
CPU 7 ISR total execution time (s): 0.0
CPU 7 ISR count: 0
CPU 7 DPC highest execution time (µs): 29.652025
CPU 7 DPC total execution time (s): 0.00280
CPU 7 DPC count: 509
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Yes ASIO
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14 minutes ago, Promidi said:
Updated drivers manually? (Not via Windows update)
Set CPU min max to 100%?
Disabled Intel speedstep (and possibly C-States)?
Enabled high performance power scheme?
If you have an Nvidia card - set power to "Prefer Maximum performance) in 3D settings?Thanks. I already have done all of them but still same.
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Thanks I already did it but still same .
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4 hours ago, rsinger said:
What's your buffer size?
512.
If I increase the buffer size problem will go away but I will get latency during playing midi.
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9 hours ago, Gswitz said:
I like bbq. 😁
This issue is fixable 95% of the time I'd say.
You need to look at the drivers tab too see which is running long.
Make sure to disable power saving features on network cards and usb select suspend.
Then check latency monitor again.
I once had a mouse that introduced an issue.
Trouble shooting this is a pain... We all agree. But i think we all do it after major machine changes including hardware and os.
Is your machine a laptop?
Thanks for your help.
the only thing i have not test yet is disabling the power saving the network card, which I will it now .
I am not using laptop. I build the unit about 7 years ago.
By the way, I installed a fresh copy of win 8.1 on another hard drive , there is no issue but installed the windows 10 on the same hard drive, problem started to showing it self.
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Yes I run the latency mon. It says :
Your system appears to be having trouble handling real-time audio and other tasks. You are likely to experience buffer underruns appearing as drop outs, clicks or pops. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates.
LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for 0:00:57 (h:mm:ss) on all processors.Bios is the latest update.
Would it be barbecue my motherboard is old?
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12 hours ago, CJ Jacobson said:
A couple things to consider. If the project is big, it will need lots of resources and maybe a lower buffer size is not going to work with your current sound card and its drivers.
Another thing, If you are using the on-board sound chip, you will not get as good performance, as if you were to use a sound card make for audio recording/production, like form MOTU, RME, Focusrite and so on. On-board sound chips are cheaply made and do not have the drivers written for them to handle such task and that includes the circuitry of the on-board sound chips as well, they are not made for using with a DAW.
No i already disabled the on board audio device and just running all my audios by the Antelope Orion Studio HD.
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16 hours ago, martsave martin s said:
do you have the onboard-audio card enable on your PC?
I already disabled it.
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Hi guys, I recently upgraded my windows 8.1 to 10. Now I get lots of pops and crackles on lower buffer size . Even playing a simple YouTube causes the same problem . I always record my projects on 96 khz , so I put windows sound setting on 96khz too to prevent any sample rate conflict when I am using sonar and for example playing something on YouTube. I never had this problem with windows 8.1. I already did all the performance setting on my win10 and mobo but still the same.
I have Intel i7 4770k , Asus sabertooth z87, 24 GB ram and SSD for C drive and my audio device is Orion Studio HD.
I am just wondering if someone has the same experience.
Thanks for any help
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Thanks David for your help. Do you thing if there is technically possible to add this ability to sonar ? because I think it is a very important for us to keep the setting if accidentally disconnect one of our midi devices.
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For some unknown issue after I upgraded my windows to 10, some of my usbs disconnect and reconnect randomly by themselves during working on my projects or sometimes even don't recognize by windows during boot up that cause on my Sonar to change all my midi inputs and outputs to its order which some times takes a lot of time to re rout them.
Is there any possibility that stop this behavior and force sonar to keep the setting as it was, even if the specific midi controller doesn't exist?
Thanks
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On 11/18/2019 at 7:48 AM, tecknot said:
Hi reza,
Try installing SONAR components by using the Command Central installer.
Kind regards,
tecknot
Thanks. I tried but wont let me to install most of them because minimum requirement is having the sonar platinum.
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27 minutes ago, Starship Krupa said:
As far as I know, SONAR by itself, excluding the add-ons, only takes up about 1G of disk space, so maybe this is not so much to worry about? The majority of the hard drive space is consumed by the extras, which is what you want.
Others please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks for your reply. Yes, but I want to install the add-ones on another hard drive, not my C drive.
So it seems I don't have any option except of installing the Platinum again.
Thanks again
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1 hour ago, Colin Nicholls said:
Choose "custom installation" and de-select the bits you don't want. But to be safe, I recommend installing the whole thing. Then re-install Cakewalk By Bandlab.
Thanks for your help. So you mean I should install Platinum with custom installation? So in this case as far as I remember sonar will not allow me to just install the Add ones. I have to first install platinum and choose which Add ons I need to install. Isn't, right?
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Hi there. I own the sonar platinum and already installed the cakewalk by band lab. But yesterday I made a clean windows 10 installation on my PC and just installed the cakewalk by band lab and didn't install platinum because I wanted to save more space on my computer but I realized some of my plugins and instruments are gone I my old projects asked them to load. My question is how can I install my stuff without installing the whole platinum. like True Pianos or SI Drums.
Thanks in advance
pops and crackles
in Cakewalk by BandLab
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Thanks. The reason I put the windows setting on 96khz is because if I play something in youtube or play a music in media player while my cakewalk is open on a 96khz project, my Audio device which is Antelope Orion Studio HD hangs and I have to power cycle the audio device which is so annoying. that's why I set the windows audio on 96khz.
As I wrote an update above, after I installed a very first version of windows 10 build 1703 there were no pops and crackles. I downloaded some windows update accidentally that one of them was related to usb 3 driver and even with build 1703 I got pops . I uninstalled them and problem solved. It means it should be a glitch in windows 10.