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44 minutes ago, balinas said:

But I always have time to point out other things'/people's faults!   Seems to be my appointed job in this life!

It's human nature. They were all valid points about CbB, but what I was pointing out is, all but 1 were not show stoppers and could easily be worked with and around. But I sure do understand the desire to have it work more efficiently. 👍

9 minutes ago, InstrEd said:

I think Reaper is a marvel, how compact of a DAW it is.  But I just never could click with it.    

Did you try using a controller instead like the Presonus Faderport? 

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The point where he was talking about the synth not responding to the envelope curve smoothly seems to be the only legit criticism he had imo. It almost sounded like there wasn't enough resolution or points on the envelope curve even though it looked like there were. I may be getting my DAWs mixed up but I seem to recall a setting for that.

In regard to the rest. If milliseconds of your workflow time are that valuable to you, maybe taking hours creating, editing, and uploading a 9 minute video isn't quite the best usage of your time? 🤪

8 hours ago, craigb said:

There's an "upstairs?"  Why?  🤔

I shouldn't have said anything and I regret it now. It was late, I was tired, and it won't happen again. But yeah, a couple threads I've replied to have been deleted. I don't believe it was because of me but there was absolutely nothing bad that I saw by anyone. But I truly don't care about that kind of stuff anymore. After what I've been through the last couple years, and then C19 on top of it, nothing and I mean nothing bothers me anymore. Life's too short for the petty stuff and I just want everyone to be happy as they can be.

Am I curious as to why a lot of the stuff I paid for and have been using for years suddenly vanished and/or stopped working ... you betchya pilgrim ... but it ain't worth the hassle and doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

🌈🦄🌞😺🙉🙈🙊👍

8 hours ago, craigb said:

Of course, unfortunately, after you've heard music replicated correctly, it's nearly impossible to listen to it coming out of a crappy source... 😒

By far, thee most incredible thing I have ever heard was a pair of lower end Magnepan's and a sub through a lower end McIntosh MA5300. Still pricey but not insane like their high end or PS Audio etc.. Some Best Buy's have a high end section. I A/B'd a room full of AV and Stereo head's to the MA5300 they had and nothing even came close. I never knew how important the distortion rating was on an amp until I heard one that didn't fudge that number. It was so clean and so pure compared to the other 24/25 AV and Stereo heads they had. Some were more expensive than the MA5300's $5K price tag.

I'm happy with my 35+ year old Technics turntable I bought used, well, 35+ years ago, with a decent cartridge and my 70's Pioneer SX 550. My brother bought it new in 76 or 77 and gave it to me a couple of years ago. I had been using a now 20 + year old cheap JVC AV head but the 70's SX 550 is far better/cleaner sounding. Then I picked up a pair of very used/damaged but still working JBL L880 speakers off the for sale bulletin board where my wife works. Not a fan of JBL but they were cheap and it all sounds great to me and not worth the price difference between this setup and a Maggie/McIntosh imo.

10 hours ago, RobertWS said:

I canceled it and CakeWalk installed and ran.  Edge did not install.

Here's a discussion about it:   https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/24991-microsoft-edge/#comment-206999

Thanks. Edit *Ficksed*

It's ok. The cool kids are down here in the basement anyways.

This screen came up while installing the last update to CbB and it hung there forever. Any idea what this is? I've never seen this before and everything I found online about it was pretty cryptic.

44 minutes ago, bitflipper said:

If you think about it, no stereo system can sound better than the gear employed to make the record in the first place.

I always felt the same way. I have a respectable turntable and some good JBL speakers. I just bought a new needle for it. Took forever to find online. But the biggest thing that changed the sound was a cleaner I made. I've gone down the rabbit hole of how to clean LP's for decades. The best thing I could find online were vacuum based ones. Being Mr. Frugal, I decided to make my own and try on some old LP's that I didn't care about ruining. Man did it work amazingly well. I bought a cheap $40 dollar wet/dry vac and used some scrap PVC I had laying around and some felt furniture pads I had laying around. I was completely astounded at the difference it made. Old records I had been getting at the thrift stores sounded like new. I was completely astounded. Wish I would have done it years ago. It even worked out to where the hose of wet/dry vac fit tightly inside the PVC and I didn't have to screw with making an adapter. I used Enzyme based cleaner and surfactant that photographers use. It seemed to work best when I put a layer of that on and sprayed distilled water on top. It somehow activated it. I was truly amazed at how well it worked. LP's I thought were ruined just need a deep cleaning. 

This is astonishing, and sad toward the end. 

I thought this was going to be another Stevie Nicks thread.

Come to think of it, I don't ever recall hearing him sing. But I never paid close enough attention to them to know.

3 minutes ago, InstrEd said:

With those Knees I hope you have Ben Gay in your Band 🙄

Boy, could I fix that one with 1 'e'. 😁

Ooh. She's live again. Doing The Lemon Song now. 👍

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The only criticism I have about CbB and Assistant is it seems to have disabled my legitimate (not stolen or hacked) copy of X2 and it seems to have removed some older plugins I heavily relied on that came with X2. They completely vanished from my system during one of the updates and every time I try to open X2 nothing happens.

I don't miss X2 but hopefully it's something I did inadvertently to remove the VST's, but I can't imagine what. I still have direct X plugins I use. I never delete anything.

But as for download speed and startup speed I have zero problems. I too only recently got high speed internet out in the country. 30Mb Down/20 Mb Up. It's never taken me any more than a 2 or 3 minutes to update CbB.

I can do Jazz Chords in Band In A Box. But only Jazz. No majors. (See my thread there about BiaB only generating 7ths) 😟

17 minutes ago, paulo said:

I'm no expert, but I suspect that frying them in a regular non-coated pan wouldn't do them much good either...

And you owe me one keyboard and possibly a monitor after the projectile coffee incident just now. 😁

40 minutes ago, Paul Young said:

At one time non stick coatings killed pet birds.  We grew up with iron skillets.   In some areas people use electric stoves and the higher end stoves don't allow for iron skillets.

The nonstick stuff is ok if you don't overheat them or accidentally scuff the surface. People ramp up the heat to get them warm enough to cook faster and burn the coating or chop and scrape with a metal spatula and scuff it up. That's bad. I got one of those single burner countertop induction plates. I haven't used my regular stove since and I've had it about 3 years. The pans heat to temp in about 10 seconds and you select the temp so you never get anywhere near the danger zone.

But, for breakfast on occasion I have cornbread made in a cast iron skillet in the oven. Nothin' like it. Get the box mix, add real butter and replace the water with regular 7up (not diet). Cornbread, scrapple, eggs, percolated coffee. That's living. Scrapple is what's leftover after a hog is butchered. Ground up and pressed in to a grey block. Chunks of grizzle, hair. It's all in there. You slice it and fry in cast iron with oil and get it crispy and smother it with molasses. Can't get it here in MO. It's a PA/Northern NJ thing.  🐽🐖👍

Here's a good video on how to season cast iron and make it nonstick. 

1 hour ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

I was talking about analyzing a mix at the mix stage. In my cases, mastering is something that may happen somewhere or it's just a suggestion.

Same here. I try to make my mixes as close as possible to the end result as I can. It's not easy but when I did the -6/-18 thing they came out a lot better.

And then there's me. I never did anything right. Just ask my wife.

2 hours ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

I usually only commit to a mix because of an impeding deadline or because I've given up after starting over for the 30th time. That's not a joke.

It's funny Starise mentioned the low end cutoff. I ripped a bunch of my first print (pre loudness wars) CD's from the 80's and analyzed them. All of them had a heavy slope cutoff below 100Hz. High end all varied. All of them had a -6db peak, -18db rms, and peaked out at -3 on the K-14 meter. I started mastering my songs to meet those specs and did some upload tests to Soundcloud. Night and day difference. The -6db Peak/-18db rms converted to SC's mp3 streaming format far better than mixing to -1db peak and not worrying about the RMS. I mix to K-14 now but I think I'm going to go back. There was a significant difference. The MP3 format is interesting. The algorithm was created only using a handful of acoustic instrument songs. Fast Car by Tracy Chapman was one of them IIRC. IOW, it wasn't made for all types of music.

Edit: To clarify I mean they used Fast Car as a reference song when creating the MP3 format as well as a few other acoustic instrument leaning songs.

19 minutes ago, Tezza said:

Non stick frypans, I hate them and they are completely unnecessary but if you go to a shop to buy a frypan, they are all coated with these cancer causing chemicals. I won't use them, just use uncoated skillets and woks which I have to get from special shops. I worked in a Chinese restaurant from about 14 to 18 and that influenced the way I cook. I've always enjoyed cooking whether by myself or for others. With woks, it's about knowing how to treat the wok and with non-coated pans it's about olive oil and heat control. If you use the heat correctly, you won't get sticking.

Yepper. My mom used cast iron frying pans. Never had anything stick.

3 hours ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

3 - Yet another LA2A, LN1176, Fairchild 660/670, VariMu compressor emulator that claims to be the dog's balls. There's probably more emulations or those than particles in the known universe and they're all the same thing with a new face on. Flour from the same batch on different packaging and names.

S1 started including the LA2A and LN1176 as well as a Pultec EQ and 1 other EQ I can't recall the name of as well as their own modern comp and eq. The one with square buttons on the face. All using hardware modelling they call State Space. You can also buy other bundles to add to it but I get along fine with the free stuff. I already had all the EQ's and Comp's that are in the Fat Channel that I paid for from Softube and Nomad Factory before they came out with the Fat Channel. But their free stuff is equal in sound quality and better in performance with zero latency.

I mention it because it proves your point. There's only so many variations of these you can have. I never would have bought the ones I did if I knew the FC was coming.

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My suggestion on EQs, compressors, limiters: If you want to step up get just one or two good ones. No need to go round' buying them like candy.

Better EQ's have improved filters resulting in a slightly more honed sound. Not that you will always hear the difference, but it's there. I use Melda's Dymanic EQ or Izotope Ozone sometimes when looking for a dynamic EQ.. You can use the Fabfilter EQ as a dynamic.

 

+1 on Melda's Auto Dynamic EQ. It's my go to. I was on my original version from when I bought it many years ago. I checked their site a few days ago and it's up to V14.16 now. I downloaded it and it recognized my authorization and I was good to go.

I really like several of their VST's. MAutoVolume is really good and so is MAutoAlign. I've only ever used the demo's but they're only $59 each. I should grab them sometime. I used MAutoVolume for bass and vocals before compression. It fixed my varying levels before they hit the compressor and every compressor I used worked better with a more even signal. Kept me from having to use envelopes to adjust gain.

I also still like the Sonitus stuff. I still use the Comp and Reverb but not so much the EQ anymore.

That said, all the stock stuff in S1 is excellent, particularly the Fat Channel. I couldn't believe it when they introduced it. It has 3 EQ's and Comps using hardware modelling and I can't tell them from the stuff I paid a lot of money for from Softube and Nomad Factory. And zero latency. The only 3rd party stuff I use when in S1 is Melda and iZotope.

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On orchestral  libraries;  I thought the violin samples were tinny in one recent library I bought so I decided to try the same samples in several of my other libraries. Guess what? They were all tinny. 

I've demo'd a few and agree with you. I still go back to the few that came with Dimension Pro and Studio Instrument Strings. They are the only ones I use. I can manipulate them in almost any way I want using PRV in CbB. I still do all of that in CbB and audio in S1. I dread the day I have to set up a new DAW because Dim Pro and Rapture are a nightmare to get running. I still use both regularly. Another thing I use in an unconventional way is Z3TA. You can use it in your FX chain and get some cool results. My best mixes all use those older samples and synths.

And some of the SF2 stuff was great too. There was a web site called Hammersound.org that had tons of SF2's people recorded. The site is still there but all the links are dead. There was some really great stuff there that thankfully I have backed up.