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20 minutes ago, mkerl said:

No, I don't have.

May be I'll do, when I've got some more time left. CbB and Cubase are both stable on my system, so there is no need to change.

There is one thing I don't like with Presonus: Most if not all of their instruments are not VST, you can only use them in S1. They are building their own, exclusive planet, while I can use for example zta3 in other DAWs, or Steinberg Halion SE as a starter for different instruments outside Cubase. I prefer to use my  instruments in all of the DAWs I use. It would be great to use Groove Agent in CbB too, but ok, it's not a perfect world . . . . 

You can use most of their VST's in any DAW just not their synth. You have to install an add-on called Presonus Hub to do it.

That said, there are plenty of things that came with Sonar that were locked to Sonar. Not everything was usable outside of it. CbB just doesn't include those any more.

And like you said, just use something else and stop complaining. Go use a different screwdriver.

3 minutes ago, abacab said:

That release is a couple of years old. Have you tried the latest update? 😉

I'm still using 3.5.6.46910. I skipped 4 and just signed up for Sphere for a month and started using 5 last week. It has some new really nice features compared to 3.5.

I will say one thing has changed that I don't like that goes way back. When booting up it used to take less than 3 seconds from the time I clicked the S1 icon till I got to the start page. Something happened a long time ago during the early days of 3 and now it hangs for about 10 seconds or so when it hits the Melodyne loading part. I contacted both parties and neither knows why. They say it shouldn't happen. I've even done a fresh install of my system to fix it thinking something got corrupted and nope. Something changed and that's just how it is now on my system. Others have checked for me and are not experiencing that. So there is one problem that kind of stinks.

3 hours ago, mkerl said:

My Copy of S1 (pro 3.6) locked up several times.

Interesting. Seeing how the Studio One Professional 3 release only went up to version 3.5.

😁

35 minutes ago, Bapu said:

I bought a commercial NAS (Buffalo). I just point my Acronis to a specific NAS location (mapped drive on the DAW, and my www surfer machine).

Thanks. I'm thinking they don't have an OS at all actually. I know the RAID part is set up in BIOS and you can format them with a bootable USB thumb drive. I bet that's what it is. I'll look on youtube once I find new adblockers. They figured out how to defeat the ones I use and it's near impossible to watch youtube now. Uhg.

2 hours ago, Cookie Jarvis said:

Blu-ray burner

Bill

Hah. I've always read that backing up on to discs is bad because they go bad and laser rot and yadda yadda yadda. Yet I have two huge boxes full of them I burned over 25 years ago that still work perfectly. My first adventure in computing was when I wanted to add a SCSI CD burner to my system. I got exactly 0 good burns out of it before I ripped it out and threw it away.

1 hour ago, timboalogo said:

Whether there are more or less crashes in CW than in other DAW software is undetermined. I'd like someone who has used all the buggy DAW softare out there to list the problems and maybe we could determine where Cakewalk stands in the group.

I just looked in my Presonus account. I've been using Studio One in one form or another since January 17 2011. Over 10 years.

My old DAW was a lower end i5 with 4GB RAM. Sonar would crash on it multiple times a session. With the same exact 32bit and 64bit VST's, SF2's, same exact external hardware Studio One crashed 0 times in 5 years of usage on my old DAW. Eventually the HDD failed and everything stopped working but I was running S1 off of one of those little tiny flat memory chips used in camera's connected to an external USB reader and using extra's of those cards to store projects and samples on.

Since I built my new DAW going on 5(?) years ago now (see my sig) S1 has crashed 0 times. X2 won't even open on my new system and CbB crashed on me the other day twice. But it is extremely rare CbB crashes for me and I have no trouble with the Pro Channel now at all like I did in X2. The Pro Channel would actually turn itself on and off back before it had an on/off button in X1 and X2 and become unresponsive. I had X1 and X2 set to autosave every 60 seconds. That's how much it crashed. I have no reservations about using CbB whatsoever like I did with X2 and I don't even have autosave set up in CbB. I fully expect all software to crash at one point or another so I consider CbB to be just as stable as S1 seeing how I can count on 1 hand the amount of times CbB has crashed on me. It's rock solid for me how I use it on my PC. 👍

So there's a real world comparison from a single user. fwiw.

27 minutes ago, slartabartfast said:

The first point to note is that you cannot use a mechanical license for audio that plays with as a soundtrack to a video presentation. What you would need would be a synchronization license, and since this is the same intellectual property that would be needed if the song were to become part of a billion dollar grossing motion picture, most copyright owners would want to negotiate the terms for these rather than rely on a licensing robot to get them the best deal. The availability of the compulsory license for making purely audio recordings is a part of the copyright statute that enables musicians to do audio only cover songs of previously released/published recordings. Since a compulsory license does not require the consent of the owner it is much easier to obtain. 

I'm not sure what a synchronization license refers to. I never looked it up. I took it to mean you need to get a license if using part of the original song along with the original artists video but I don't know.  Seeing how you can't upload anything to youtube unless it is in video format then everyone would have to get a sync license, no?

Take this guy for example ... I can't believe he's contacting every copyright holder of every one of these songs he puts out video's for. And he puts out a lot. But maybe he does, I don't know.  Youtube is sending mixed signals on what is and isn't acceptable. For example the video I did that they took down, gave me a strike for, then put it back up and told me I could monetize it. I still have all the emails and the video is still there and can be set public with monetization. Not that I ever would.

I'm not going to worry about it either way.

Side note, I either read or watched a vid a while ago by a guy saying it's better not to copyright your own material now. I forget the reasoning behind it and if I can find it again I'll post a link to it. It made sense at the time when I saw it.

1 hour ago, Bapu said:

Ditto, my 'projects drive' is backed up via Carbonite. My C drive is backed up using Acronis (to my NAS). My samples drive is not backed up (yet).

Can you explain your NAS a little? What software controls it? I'm thinking of building one from an old i5 cpu based mobo I have in a case. I even have a video card. Just need drives and older ram. But I can't seem to find info on what software it is that runs them.

On 2/13/2021 at 5:15 PM, Craig Reeves said:

Cakewalk is the buggiest major DAW and it's not even close. There is a reason Cakewalk failed as a commercial product even against more limited DAWs like Reaper and FL Studio and I can't imagine this not being at least one the reasons. It's unacceptable and embarrassing.

I get that's it's free but it was actually WORSE in the past when it wasn't free.

A lot of us feel that way.

I understand being a big supporter of a product but I think it's offensive when people immediately put others down and show absolutely no empathy at all when someone vents their frustration. It isn't like we all haven't done it at some point ... lighten up. (Not talking to the OP)

I used to get incredibly frustrated because way back when I was working I only had a few hours on the weekends to record and blow of steam. I spent 99% of my limited time trying to get Sonar to be stable. I once offered to box up my audio interface, PC, and cables and ship to Boston in an effort to see if they could make it work. The offer was declined.

Since the stock answers always seem to be just avoid doing what you're doing and it's you not the software then maybe you need a change of scene? A lot of us went to Presonus Studio One Professional when the Sonar X series arrived. Craig Anderton writes really good how-to and tips-tricks articles for Presonus that come up on the start page of S1 a lot. I think every Friday iirc?? You can try out the full pro version of S1 and everything they offer for 30 days at a time for a small fee or try a limited demo of just S1. There is absolutely nothing wrong with using more than one DAW. I find myself switching between CbB and S1 regularly.

Good luck.

1 hour ago, Cristiano Sadun said:

Self-bias is powerful: I once spent minutes fine-tuning a fader and discerning quite a lot of differences with just 0.5 or 1dB differences in fader position... only to realize afterwards that I was manipulating the wrong fader, on a muted channel!   Our mind plays tricks all the time.

The only way to know if it's true that your HW compressor is adding some magic is to find an emulation, have a friend bounce a mix using the emulation or not (and accounting for any noise etc) and listen without knowing which is which.

Some time after I also made experiments between my real UA 610 and the UAD emulation on the Twin, and my real LA2A and the UAD counterpart, with identical result. Take away the knowledge of what's what, and the only magic that's left is your ability to mix.

Of course I don't mean the compressor doesn't add something good. But it's not it about being physical outboard, it's about the fact that you found a setting you like with a unit you like, easy since you were just turning knobs and there was nothing to look at. That's the big advantage of hardware.

I've done the changing of the wrong fader many times too. 😄

I doubt there's any emulation for any of the ART gear. It's low end, but the funny thing is, it's in a lot of pro studio's. I see a lot of youtube video's from guys in real working studio's who love it. Although I see the price is going up on it.

I use the mechanical bypass buttons on the unit to set the output level so it's equal to the pre-processed input and then I bypass Pipeline in Studio One to A/B the original signal to the ART. If I just rely on the bypass on the unit it's still going through it technically and I'm not getting a true bypass.

My problem is I get too lost in VST's. I do much better with just a few knobs that I have to manually adjust. Especially with EQ's. I can spend hours tweaking 1 track with Melda's AutoDynamic EQ.

I just compared the remix I did the other night with the ART routing to the original mix of the song completely ITB and there is a night and day difference.

One thing I like about using Pipeline in Studio One is, you can reverse phase with it and then use the mix slider to blend it in with the original signal. Although that could be done ITB too.

Two things have completely changed the way I mix and master that I have discovered in the last week. This routing thing and the ease of adjusting spikes in your waves in Studio One 5 now. It is so easy and it's graphically responsive so you can see the changes you are making to the waveform in real time. I'd like to upgrade my Melodyne 4 Studio to 5 Studio that detects sibilance and allows you to adjust it so you don't have to use a de-esser next.

23 minutes ago, bluzdog said:

I pushed my price point some and I'm considering this: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i7-9700k-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-super-2tb-hdd-512gb-ssd-black/6401068.p?skuId=6401068

It checks most of the boxes and should be future proof for some time. What do you guys think?

Rocky

Looks great, if you can get it. Stock seems to be a bit of a problem these days everywhere. I just tried to get some balanced cables at my local G.C.. None in stock. Had to order them on Amazon.

What I don't agree with in regard to YouTube is the fact they can give you a copyright strike for a private video set to non-monetization. If it's all scanned automatically by a bot then it should be that if you would ever set it to public and/or monetize it they would know immediately and then block it, notify you, and perhaps give you an option to purchase a mechanical license rather than delete your video and give a strike.

If they had half a brain, as soon as they discover you have uploaded a copyrighted work, they should demonetize the video, block the video, and put a link next to it in your account with a quick way for you to obtain a mechanical license. 

I honestly believe that most people don't do it because they simply don't know they have to or they don't know how to go about it. Or they are like me and feel like I should be charging them for the exposure and if they take it down so be it. If not then that's ok too because I don't expect anything for putting it up. What I flat out disagree with though is someone who would put a cover up and ask for donations or monetize the video.

I've never heard of anyone getting sued because they posted a cover of a song. I'm sure if we scoured the net we could find something but I did a quick search and the only thing I found was an article about Prince suing the family of a toddler who was dancing to one of his songs on YouTube.

I actually have a lot of songs on my channel but 100% of everything is set to private. About 50% are flagged and say I can't monetize them. I've only ever had 1 strike and I had it removed within minutes.

Here's a good link by a lawyer that explains how copyright works on YouTube in a quick easy read.

On 2/13/2021 at 6:49 AM, Finnbogi Ragnar Ragnarsson said:

Amd and a second hand 1060.

Avoid any intel older than 8xxx.

Do you mean GTX 1060 video card? I've been watching those waiting for the price to go down but it keeps going up. They started out around $275 used 2 months ago now the lowest I've seen them is on eBay for $300 Buy It Now including shipping. They usually sell for more after shipping when people bid on them. That's a 5 year old video card. It's crazy.

4 minutes ago, Dave Maffris said:

Oh, I'm sure that is true--in this case, it sounds like you were actually accompanying the famous track. I was talking about when you create the recording entirely from scratch. But glad they removed the strike, since you were not monetizing. I think the key here is being sure that whatever you are posting was 100% done by you, and not just a mash-up or remix using other artist's recordings, because those master recordings are owned entirely by the artist or by the recording company that recorded it.

 

It was 100% done by me. It was just a midi backing track of drums and bass. I think on small channels like mine there is a manual review maybe and I think someone messed up. I could be wrong but that's my gut feeling. 

41 minutes ago, Dave Maffris said:

I have posted covers on SC in the past, as well as made YouTube videos of covers, and while Youtube flags them, they don't require you take them down, and as long as no money is going into your pocket without the composer/publisher's permission, you should be ok, I've never had to take anything down in that situation.

I had YouTube take down one of my video's. I was playing just the lead to a famous song, set it to private, and no monetization. They took it down and gave me a copyright strike. I contested it and they removed the strike.

So in my experience you can have a cover taken down on YouTube, even if set private and don't ask for money. If you get 3 copyright strikes on YouTube your channel is automatically deleted.

If you like folk type stuff these folks are live now. He's a boat builder and she's the original artist who made the Boba Fett costume.

https://www.twitch.tv/allmusicconsidered

My EMG's just gave up the ghost after 37 years in Kelly. (my black strat.)

I have the original ones that David Gilmour designed his signature EMG Series off of. The off white with gold lettering ones. The gold lettering means they were alnico magnet based. I'm thinking of trying a set of Fender Noiseless Pickups that don't require a pre-amp/9v battery but it hurts to say goodbye to these. 😢 I originally put them in to get rid of the noise from bad grounds and neon signs in the bars. See sonny, why back in my day, neon was all we had before LED's.

13 minutes ago, aidan o driscoll said:

This is the Donate screen that pops up when you open  that software. Click REMIND ME LATER and it goes away, nothing major TBH .. esp as this software is free.

But it says right in it's description that it's an "annoying dialog". 

I had to giggle when I read, "democratize access to music production" and "100% free . . . but we need money to make it free.".

Looks like a nice clean DAW. That's my #1 complaint with most DAW's. Too much going on and I get cornfused.

8 minutes ago, Zo said:

A new daw is the last thing i need ...

Or is it? 

4 hours ago, John Vere said:

I don't often wander around the forum site but the main pages are real boring now. Same stupid questions over and over. It's great to help people who are truly stuck, but most of these people seem to think for themselves. 99% of the questions are easily Googled.

I've found most forums are dead now. I think they're viewed as old school in this attention span-less world we live in now. It's mostly old timers here now and we're basically free tech support. I think that's the only reason the forum is here.

TDPRI seems like it's still a pretty good forum but I stopped going there a long time ago because of the mods. There was one in particular who would attack everyone and anyone for absolutely no reason. He left me alone for a long time then suddenly started following me around in threads so I just left. Never engaged him or anyone. I just walked. After my tenure at the old cake forum I made a conscious decision to just walk away from everything that even remotely bothers me so I just left. Never said a word to any of the guys I had become friends with or anyone. I felt bad about it afterwards. I kept getting emails asking if I was alright but I never responded. I've learned that even if you're right about something, if someone disagrees with you, you always come out looking bad or like a troublemaker if you take a stand and it's just not worth it. For example, there's a thread here right now that accidentally got derailed into a BiaB discussion that I desperately want to respond to but I just have to walk away. It's just not worth it.

They did something fun in one of the sub forums at TDPRI. Someone would post a backing track and all the guitar pickers would take a crack at doing their own lead parts to it and post and everyone would compare. I did so many that I got really good at making up riffs on the fly. I really miss that. It was always the same core group of guys and stragglers would come along once in a while. It was really cool to hear how different everyone approached the songs. I looked the other day and the same guys are still doing it and it's been 5 or 6 years since I left and they were doing it long before I got there. It would be fun to do something like that here.

Sorry for the long post. I'm bored out of my mind. Think I'll go walk on the pond out back and see how thick the ice is. 🥶☠️👻

2 hours ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

Most of your time will be spent waiting for stuff to render, patching stuff in and out, recalling settings for each session and dealing with ground loop issues.

True! But ... if I get an interface where I can actually use all the I/O's, and go get 10 more compressors, mix everything ITB to stems, I only have to do it once. 😁

As for the ground loop thing, so far so good. The only problem I have right now is my speakers are making a WWII radio sound depending on how low I have my buffers set. It's not coming through my headphones and is not present in my mixdowns. I can work with it, but it's annoying. You'd think with all the hearing loss and tinnitus it wouldn't be a problem, but hell no. It's right where I still have some good hearing left. LOL!

I had a blast last night. It was a bit of a pain I will admit, but it was worth it. I had a Drum, Rhythm Guitar, Lead Guitar, Bass, and Vocal track I ran through it separately. It did take a while but I just made supper while it was going. Then I used the new feature in Studio One 5 where you can simply draw out the peaks you don't want and I used Melodyne to take out the clicks on the bass. I'm afraid to listen to it now. You know it is, it can sound great while you've been at it for 3 hours, but then the next day it sounds horrible.

I really wish I could emulate this ITB but so far I haven't been able to. 

This is the one I'm looking forward to. I'll have to rip the 4th disc as it's Region B Bluray, but the other 3 discs are 4K Region Free.

The last band I was in up in Iowa was the best band I was ever in musicianship wise. They were far more skilled than I was. There were two of us who played lead and rhythm. The other guy and I got in to a heated discussion one night about what key Smoke On The Water was in. He was playing it in G Major and refused to change. The next week at practice just before we started playing it he leans over and whispers to me, "I looked at my sheet music and you were right. It is in a minor.". That guy was amazing on guitar but it was all gibberish to his ears.

True story.

"Goes to show what a boy can become, without a sense of rhythm."

25 minutes ago, craigb said:

I'm still in the "Gear is nice." camp. 😜

I'm having a blast with this. Now I need to upgrade my audio interface to something with more functioning inputs and go buy 6 more of these compressors to put on every bus. 😆

I just threw it on the drum bus in that tune I posted here a couple weeks ago and what a difference. I dialed it in in no time.

My problem is my brain can't handle too many options. I've always been far better at mixing my songs on my old Tascam 8 track than I have ever been in any DAW. It's funny how we have VST's like auto dynamic EQ's but the ones I get the most use out of are the ones made to emulate vintage EQ's with just a couple of knobs. I can only imagine what it was like using the real thing in a real studio.