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1 hour ago, cclarry said:

It irks me knowing that I'm going throw $40 away to get this, even getting 11 for the price of 1,
because I will be upgrading to Total Studio Max 4 when it's released, and this $40 would be part
of that price...but I do want to help others out in the group buy, and I'm a man of my word, and I said when it
hits 10 I'd be in, so time to jump!

I guess that would depend on the upgrade price.   Usually more content is added by then for TR5 and AT5. Just face it as much as we dislike some policies of IK, we still like to impulse buy. 

I still like using my 720p 10+years Vizio 32 TV.  It runs on an older system.

My eyesight is getting worse and I struggle with a 1080p 40 inch TV.

Interesting when you look at TV and computer monitors there doesn't seem much more real estate between a 32 and 40 TV.    I've seen 27 ans 32 inch monitors and doesn't seem a recognizable difference except for the price.

Someone on the Image Line forums making out the M1 is then end all.

This is from the head chief of Image Line.

To be frank Apple has been consistently obsoleting software through their actions over the last 20 years, which are mainly about closing an already tight ecosystem further.

For example. Their rush to release ARM devices has rendered all legacy (Intel only) VST plugins obsolete on the Apple Silicon platform. This has implications for forward compatibility of projects and the ability to share projects with Windows users who need to use VST equivalents to AU. They took the time to make an Intel - ARM process bridge for AU plugins, but don't care about VST as its not their platform and they don't sell VST format plugins.

Additionally, every time Apple updates macOS they break software and some hardware too. They do this with the expectation that the industry will just fix their mess. When a developer doesn't the product is dead.

In short, if anything you use is not under constant development bit-rot will set in much faster on macOS than Windows.

'll open with an observation. Desktop systems are more robust, easier to repair and upgrade than laptops. Yet I see people using laptops that never leave the desk they were unboxed on.

People do not make rational decisions.

My comments about Bit-Rot on macOS are not company policy. They are personal opinion and observation (corroborated by most developers I know who code audio applications for macOS. They are always chasing their tails making fixes caused by changes to the OS), having been involved in software development for over 20 years (and managing software development for 15).

You don't have to like other peoples opinions. But understand they always have a reason for them. I am not a customer of Apple products. I manage a team that makes software that runs on them. I see what has to happen to keep that software working.

I will hand Apple a job well done with the release of the Apple Sillicon ecosystem. They really did an amazing job with the Rosetta 2 system. Their Apple Silicon CPUs also have excellent performance per watt, making them easier to cool and so quiet out of the box. Nice. But a lot of code is heading for the dust heap as a result of this transition. Whether or not you care about that is if you use or rely on any of this code.

But my personal opinion is well represented by the quote above.

Company 'policy'? Well, philosophy is that we support the operating systems where the market / customers are. And for now that is macOS, Windows, Android and iOS.

Regards Scott

I love the comment about laptops never leaving the desk.  If I were a laptop guy I'd be all over an M1 and Logic.  Apple owes a lot to HP since they make nothing but craptops. 

Don't like Sine. 

12 hours ago, Sander Verstraten said:

Not that much in awe with their new upgrade pricing. 

Especially since there doesn't seem to be an upgrade path from anything before 11 anymore

Which makes it easy for me not to spend money on a DAW I never use.

7 hours ago, Brian Walton said:

I did but will likely need to uninstall and roll back.

MSoundfactory LE has crashed Cakewalk 4 times in a row and it was the only thing I added to a project.  

Normally these Betas seem pretty safe from Melda but this one isn't working as expected on my particular setup.

 

AND the Windows uninstaller isn't working for it!  (had to delete plugins by using the v15 installer)

Is it vst2 or 3?

Super String is $49.

This is tempting to install.

16 hours ago, cclarry said:

For me, there are two saving graces for IK....and ONLY 2...

1.  Pete
2.  Group Buys

If not for those TWO, I'd be gone in a minute, regardless of how good the product is,
and I've walked that line MANY times!

I could go on for HOURS...but I won't.  Everybody already knows, so why repeat
myself.

For me it's also licensing, jam points, always had great support

I haven't totally walked away from Waves either.  Bad habits = never a quick death

9GB - no thanks.

14 minutes ago, abacab said:

Yep, noticed that too.

Sure hope that KORG is doing more than a VST3 update to Odyssey though. The preset browser needs to be updated to something more useful at least like the Polyxix or the MonoPoly.

What happens when you mix an IK with InMusic?  You get Korg.

1 hour ago, Fleer said:

Actually, this is what I did two years ago:

“Users who already have the plugins from the KORG Collection can update to version 2 for free. To get KORG Collection 2 series, login to KORG ID and download them or install KORG Software Pass and activate your account in the app.”

and it still shows up as legacy bundle........

so legacy collection pay the same price is the same price as those who have M1le.  That smells like IK .

I'd rather give that $149 to Arturia, or some other developer. The Korg eco system sucks. 

Synths are a dime a dozen these days no matter how good a certain claimed hardware emulation is.    

11 hours ago, Fleer said:

I was thinking Lindell 50 and Neold Big Al. 

Same here but I need to start saying no.  The only benefit is it takes a DAW plugin manager to scan two more and I'll forget to use them.  I never go far in anything to make use of them.  I'm a better purchasing agent.

Nothing to see here.  I've seen these prices many times. They also change the paint on their advertising.

28 minutes ago, Brian Walton said:

I was under the impression the point was to own them all and then never actually use them?

I don't think I've used Synthronik 1 after getting all of it in the group buy.  If nothing else having to pay for the redownload of content and HD space later on when I do want to use in on a future machine.

 

That nails it for me.  I've started to avoid more rompler type synths namely for Kontakt.  I have all of the flavor of the month VSTs.

I guess the Riser is very underrated.  I watched a tutorial and the producer always used this.

6 minutes ago, cclarry said:

I chatted on their site and they stated that will not be making their products
Player compatible...

That doesn't bother me.  With all of the player libraries in Kontakt it's annoying to find anything.  I often drag a patch from the system folder most of the time.

2 hours ago, cclarry said:

I'm in....I had been waiting for this sale since last year, so held off until the Easter Sales
were over, in case something else popped up.   This is the cheapest 8W has been in the past 5 years
at $249, so $100 with my upgrade code it is 90% off...that works for me...but, rest assured, when it
becomes a freebie next week I will piss and moan about it! 

That wont happen.

2 hours ago, TheSteven said:

or not...
As the 3rd article explains many optimization tweaks are based on XP era hardware.

I don't even bother with these "tweaks" anymore.  Most of them are already done.  Most machines don't need this anymore.

1 hour ago, craigb said:

Just in time for Windows 11!  LOL.  😆

The best way to tweak W11 is install W10 over it.

1 hour ago, Tim Smith said:

Yes I think most of us would want Kontakt. I was surprised though at the nice piano and orchestra library sounds ( 3rd party) now included in the new max version.

Ableton has gotten their foot in the door for so many controllers now which make the program much easier to use. Offering their lite version included for free is a wise marketing move.

I am neutral on the program itself. Probably because I'm not doing a lot of audio stretching or looping right now. As a basic DAW with decent plugins it's better than I thought it would be until I got deeper into it.

Things I find intuitive about it- I like how easy it is to zoom the screen to exactly where you want to go. It has been a very stable and fast program. Not living well with VST2 though.

I delete the original orchestra. This is part of my point that the Suite is never really updated but added on like 3rd party stuff.

1 hour ago, Fleer said:

But … is it any good ?

These are a dime  a dozen so I didn't install it. 

1 hour ago, satyabrata satapathy said:

Lol at least not a Linux distro

That's suppose to be the cure all which the PROfessional multimedia world ignores.

3 hours ago, cclarry said:

You're guaranteed to play and sing just like Michael McDonald!

I'd get it if is came with a free loaded gun so I could shoot myself.

2 hours ago, Sander Verstraten said:

They should just offer Max4Live seperatly, I don't want all the Suite Content 

I think they do but it would cost your more.