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https://www.ujam.com/bassist/dandy/

Thoughts on this appreciated.  Are these drag n drop midis?

2 hours ago, Fleer said:

KeepForest beware !

Not.  Thought about this but when a developer doesn't allow comments on Youtube is says buyer beware.

This would be another one trick pony library for me.  Kinda tempted.  What exactly is Viking Music?   No recordings existed back then.

2 hours ago, John Maar said:

I got Bitwig v2 8 Track free on a similar deal. It did not upgrade for free to v3 when that was released. It was so feature-limited that I couldn't do anything useful with it. I got so tired of all of the "pay to upgrade" spam from them that I uninstalled it and never looked back.

It Waves created a DAW it would be called Bitwig.

OT - does anyone find Beat better than CM?

13 hours ago, dubdisciple said:

I am trying to ween myself off of buying deals just because they are deals lol

I don't even work with video editors anymore.  The other stuff included makes it much easier to say no.

4 hours ago, stony said:

This means for an advance payment of $8,25/month you receive a $20 Voucher/month. Tempting...

I will consider this sarcasm.  Their shop is overpriced when not one sale.  This is almost as worse as the NI vouchers.

No matter how great it is I can't look beyond their licensing scheme.

Despite that upgrade from Plat to Diamond is $63.   You are just going to have to hold on to that football a little longer Lucy.

It's bundled with a lot of junk or stuff you can get free elsewhere.  There's a lot to be said when a developer has to throw in such 3rd party stuff to get you to buy their  product.  Cakewalk use to do it all of them time but it wasn't always lite versions of software.

You pay more at Loot.

It's failed in the commercial market more than once.   If people are so set on using Linux they should use the DAWs that support them. They just can't seem to figure why the world rejects Linux. 

2 Serum presets. Ujam Heavy 2.

So proud of myself.

Real loot was 6 Beringer Estate Founders Wine,  buy 6 @ $4.49 each. 

Another $100 and EW puts it on a SSD for you.

While this is a great deal I don't do enough orchestra to justify this.  I still have EW HO Gold and never used enough of it. 

14 hours ago, Fleer said:

I’m afraid Craig and I aren’t entirely serious, fret_man

Great job of fooling someone.  Both of you should work for Aria Sounds.

On 11/19/2022 at 10:30 AM, lawajava said:

@Fleer - this is a "by the way" - but I just looked and I have 4 of the at least 10 Reveal Sound preset libraries that are all Plucks.  So you can roost in your chicken house with Spire.

For some suggestions for others (I would suggest firstly that you get Spire when it's on sale, and then wait for a Reveal Sound store sale when everything is substantially discounted to grab some presets).  But who I have a bunch of presets from each for Spire:

Howard Smith, Reveal itself, Bellatrix Audio, Freak, Freshly Squeezed Samples, Patchbay

And then I have a bunch of one-offs, and two-offs - like from the usual providers like Luftrum, Plugin Guru, New Loops, AZS

So many other sites have patches for less.  I got Bellatrix Audio 25 in 1 presets for really cheap from them.  Probably the best thing to do is invest in tutorials.  Iv'e stopped buying Kontakt  pad synths because to me this is where Spire shines.

35 minutes ago, MusicMan said:

That's pretty hilarious if it comes across that way, as it really couldn't be further from the truth and I've been laughing the whole time 🤣

I could easily buy the synth if I chose too, so there's nothing to get hurt about. I'm only commenting on principle and pointing out to anyone considering it, that there are alternatives with all of those additional benefits I mentioned.

Audio tech and pricing has evolved, so what once was good value, may not be today, so hopefully that helps someone who is looking at buying a synth when weighing up options.

In terms of how people do business, we absolutely can though. Customers choices to an extent can dictate businesses in many ways.

Like Steven said though, it's all been covered and I've got a bunch of new synths and plugins I've bought to  have fun with so all good 🙂

Oh it did. Multiple replies has the appearance of butthurt.  Usually a meh will do.  I react the same way with 90% of anything I think should be discounted even more.  It's often something I wouldn't end up using anyway.

Black Friday is an American thing and some developers fail to get into the marketing.  Image Line never use to have them and they replied they were in Belguim.  Their BF sale includes free stuff and if you have all of their DAW stuff the sale freebies are not for you.  Some got butthurt and I did for about a minute when I realized the free stuff is usually something offered free at random times.  I decided to not get upset for another free UVI license, WA plugins, and some more loops.

1 hour ago, cclarry said:

If I wasn't holding out for TS 4 I would have jumped on this at $69.99 with my Jampoints,
but I've learned that doing that is just throwing money away...especially with IK

I guess the question is do you have $69 now or the $250 for TS4 when it comes out.   With TS4, ST4 will take even more drive space.

12 hours ago, MusicMan said:

Haha... My ears like the sound of lots of great synths, that have all of the pros that I mentioned and Sylenth only ticks one of them 🤣

I do think Sylenth sounds nice, but there are quite a few great warm sounding synths, some old, some new. u-he, Cherry Audio, Spire, Largo, but heaps more as well, those ones just came to mind in the 5 seconds I spent thinking about warm sounds and I'm sure I have better examples than them 🙃

 

 

Ease up turbo, I was still replying to your first message 🤣

I'm not saying that Steinberg is right in VST3, I'm saying once they announced it, it didn't take too much (/any!) foresight to see that it was going to mean VST2 being deprecated, like where we're at now. There's resisting I get, but to look after the best interests of your customers, not updating by now is pretty lack lustre and those resisting now are in the minority and are losing sales because of it. So that mentality isn't customer friendly and doesn't make business sense. Not much going for it really.

And yet people expect developers to update for every Apple OS release that breaks stuff, so 14 years to not move to the current spec of VST3 isn't much to ask for. The bar is low... real low!

You come off really butthurt over this not much of a deal.  I'm like that a lot with so much stuff.  It's a synth and there's not a logical reason to go in this big tirade over it. Either buy it or don't.   We can't change how people do business. I like it for dance genres and had to buy a second license for a 3rd machine,  

 I don't always evaluate a product by its updates.  I've had updates ever since I've had a license.

I usually win an extra discount at Zero G and Hornet.

6 hours ago, MusicMan said:

If they're barely going to discount, then they should probably be at the forefront of updates and innovation.

In comparison to some of the others mentioned in the thread, Valhalla doesn't discount, but there are very regular updates and he releases new features for free.

Fuse is a small developer and has a sale of 78%+ for his plugins making them all $14.90 right now.

Massive is the same vintage and it's been in bundles for under $49.

I see no real reason to pay Sylenth's asking price even at 25% when there have been a heap of more innovative and feature rich synths made since.

I would say it's a competent synth and I do like the sound though 🙂

What constitutes enough updates?  Should I look at my archives to find out? 

I doubt Sylenth is really his full-time job.   He only makes one product and it is popular among pro producers. You could make the same argument for Spire and Xfer products.   

7 hours ago, User 905133 said:

"This runs better that Windows 11."  If that's the case, I'll stick with Win 10.

I think they were serious.

W98 was bad but W98SE was much better. That was when I got into DAWs.  I started out on Voyetra Digital Orchestra Pro and moved up to Home Studio. W2000 is my favorite OS. 

6 hours ago, ralfrobert said:

Does anyone happen to have a code to shave off some bucks from the Live update or upgrade?

You have to wait till they offer it 30% off.  It happens once a year.

57 minutes ago, Paul_in_wales said:

not really an upgrade as such, but it is still actively getting updates. - eg this was from just a couple of days ago

Rumor had it he wasn't going Vst3.   Serum came out with Vst3 this month as well.

On 11/21/2022 at 9:32 AM, JT music said:

And they will not stop being so with that closed mentality of not putting annual promotions more often and trying to sell much more 👌

I guess people wont be happy until it enters the world of $29 plugins. 

 I like this one.

Odd that this is a separate site and doesn't have the other libraries.

I believe that is the original prices for those libraries.