kitekrazy

Time for more DAW drama to break out on the Image Line forum.  Like FL is gonna ne part of the NI clusterfrack.  Let's not ignore developers now often partner with others for sales.   Magix does the same thing with Samplitude.

 I would think most FL users would give this sale a "meh".

6 hours ago, CSistine said:

I'm getting old, for me the freebies in some shops get worse and worse! 😆

Maybe wiser.  People shop around for that $2 product they never use for the free item they will never use. 

15 hours ago, Brian Walton said:

I have a couple iloks, but there are plenty of reasons why I sympathize with the haters.   

Honestly the only system I like is the one that treats the user as a law abiding citizen and doesn't have some sort of authorization method.  But 100% off line with license files and no limited authorizations is also acceptable.  Ilok doesn't meet those specifications.  I'm sure you have heard the anti ilok rants, you either get it or you don't.  

It is helpful for reinstalls compared to other similar limited authorization methods.

It did have an advantage back in the day when software only allowed one authorization and you had other systems and didn't want to buy additional licenses.  iLok as come a long way since it started - a long way.  The real problem with iLok is people will try to steal those.  

23 minutes ago, aidan o driscoll said:

Have that already but must admit I have not used it much yet.

 

Just how many of these can we acquire? 

22 minutes ago, mibby said:

Fixed. 

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BTW, I'm not poking fun at either of you. You're both making some great points. I'm just enjoying the new word.

Hey I like that new word.  Another one I hear is called enshitification.

DAW drama

7 hours ago, Nitrate Audio said:

I am flipping between switching to DP or Ableton.I am done with Cubase. I have no intention of upgrading anymore.

 

 I find this is apple and oranges.   Live is a laptop first DAW.  But when you open Live it opens up the work area and also when you close it.

BTW he wasn't the first one to leave. People left NI.

Who know maybe some of these people collected enough money that they decided they don't or need to work anymore.

6 hours ago, Soundwise said:

I think, new generations - Millennials and especially Zoomers - are not very keen on creating music in old fashion, like it used to be common for old-timers such as ourselves. IMO, that's the main reason why both hardware and software manufacturers face a decline in sales. We are still here, and we still buy their stuff and keep them afloat, but let's face it - the music part of show business is not about innovative records or talent anymore, it's just a craft with a niche demand. Music is just content crafted with little to no passion, soulful expression or extraordinary skills. We already see symptoms of the MI market collapse, so the crumbling down of leading MI software and hardware companies is inevitable.

How many of us actually buy hardware unless it breaks.  I haven't bought any more guitars, basses, wind instruments, ect.   We've always been the minority. Most people don't even use desktops anymore.  Lucky for PC hardware we benefit from the gaming industry until the PC loses its top seat as the gaming platform.

4 hours ago, Brian Walton said:

We also are in a post pandemic world where we all bought far more than we needed and the companies were overvalued because of it.  And when you sell to PE, they want more profit and growth and anyone actually in the industry should have known the down hill decline was coming.

Some of us still have that practice.

3 hours ago, Nitrate Audio said:

now if one could only find a cheap A11 licenses.

 

Live licenses are never cheap.   I think the most they ever discounted is 30%.

One think about Live is when 12 is released they still work on fixing things in 11. 

I have 12 beta but never got around messing with it.

1 hour ago, CSistine said:

For me the only question is when do I need an audience choir?

I think I'll skip the hassle to install it, because I would never have a use for it. But YMMV.

It is a small library around 700mb.

28 minutes ago, CSistine said:

Thanks for the post, too!

I don't understand Softube! They could have made a lot of money if they gave it for say $10 - $15. And I think the marketing effect would have been about the same!

There are plenty of anti iLok users out there.    Plus another one of those special downloaders that I loathe,

Nice that they allow 3 activations and I have 3 iLoks.  Eat that Waves!

12 hours ago, Eusebio Rufian-Zilbermann said:

For people who have everything AAS, there's always knobcloud and buy/sell forums

I'm not into the "plugin broker" thing.   I'd give it away which I'm sure many do. 

 I have yet to hear anything positive about Muze, 

1 hour ago, Fleer said:

Heck, stoopid. That would still be $30 for two after coupon. No way, PA. 

 I can't remember the last time I bought from PA.  It has nothing to do with their quality.  I can bring any DAW to crawl when opening it because of too many plugins - even Reaper.   

23 minutes ago, Magic Russ said:

Does beat have any options for being read as resizable/fluid text?  I really hate that most digital mags I have come across are just big scans of the pages.

On the other hand, I guess it makes it hard to say "the second word in the paragraph header at the bottom of page 88" when pages are fluid.

Zinio allows that. 

 Maybe it's me but giving an answer to the freebie is like piracy.   I remember the price of hard copy of these magazines was a a lot more than the digital format.  Just buy it for the code and take advantage of the content.   I like it since many of the tutorials have the project files. 

 I think I have everything AAS so it's not a big deal.

22 minutes ago, Kirean said:

For some reason I've never been able to make sense of iZotope's various bundles and whatnot and thus I've avoided the urge to get anything. Which is a rarity. It's like trying to figure out Sudoku or Minesweeper.

 This.    I'm not sure upgrading the MP Suite is really worth it.  You get some more reverbs.   Some of the other stuff you already have. No love for people who still have MP 3.

  Outside of Ozone and RX do you really need anything else.

1 hour ago, stony said:

Name your fu***ing price!

I guess if link and price would violate the forum rules.

2 hours ago, Fleer said:

Or they’ll do a final $99 offer for those who own Kontakt versions

I'd like to see it reversed by getting a deal on that Kontakt versions.

Something I noticed is going to their youtube channel that were they could do better.  I downloaded the Iceland library but any videos were mostly talk. There's nothing about what makes it different.  Sure you can hear the individual sounds but no demo of the sounds together.  This is where they seem to lack a walk through unless it's a flagship product.  

On 2/25/2024 at 7:50 AM, Lemar Sain said:

A new GM synth shouldn't be too tall of an order for a future Sonar update. In fact the synth engine used to preview midi in Bandlab assistant (before they removed it ) wasn't half bad.  Side note, I had hoped Loopcloud would add something like that to preview midi too.

I never cared for the Loopmaster label because their lack of midi.

I'm hoping Image Line will have this function but yet they don't have that in their DAW.

FL Studio, Live, and Reason don't have these functions.

It didn't take long for me to fall for it.  

I noticed it's got an odd file system.  All of these different folders.  It's another reminder why Kontakt rules.

So far I've messed with the Iceland library.

On 2/8/2024 at 11:04 AM, Jim Roseberry said:

FWIW, You do NOT want to disable Hyper-Threading.

That was necessary many years back... with the very first implementation.

Hasn't been necessary since Steinberg and other developers caught up (shortly after).

When I see disable HT I  find it hard to follow any advice from the author.

Great price but I wonder about the quality at that price.

I guess Arturia use to have a bad reputation for the quality of their controllers.