Will.

Request to "Disable" Piano Roll view Note drawing that automatically switches direction from left to right or right to left.

It's irritable to have it on automatic when you work in the piano roll altering notes - especially on smaller note lengths in verse and want to drag them longer in the chorus if they're still highlited in the verse. It affects those too. 

I can't tell you how many times I messed up existing notes this way, OR - bring in stricter rules for the "highlight" and the drawing of notes outside the highlight area. 

In the modern day and age in the digital world, there's a saying amongst those (myself included) that does everything themselves. It goes something like . . . 

MASTER AS YOU MIX So when it comes to the final product - you literally just have to glue everything together and crank that limiter.  There are guys so good at this, they hardly go through an EQ and Compressor at the end - only a limiter. 

This is all purely on personal taste, by what your control room/bedroom, environment, choices and monitors throw at you. 

Please correct me if I am missing something?

When adding an Instrument track and choosing "Instrument track per output, why can we only select one dedicated output at a time, when you have the option to select how many Inserts (tracks) of the instrument you want. 

EXAMPLE: Let say I want to add "4" inserts of TTS-1, but want 3 to be mono and the remaining 1 in stereo for different presets, you can't choose them simultaneously - it has to be done individually.  

Splitting the instrument track that's awesome. Great for drums machines, cause we get the interleave and the option to change the input on the strip. This is a cant do with more than one of the same "instruments track per output." 

This feature will be much appreciated. 

I'm still adding my instruments "old school" - it's a habbit, but also because I never use the same VST instrument twice.

Recently though, with some free u-he instruments, I find myself doing just that. So if I am missing something please feel free to help. 

28 minutes ago, Maestro said:

Honestly, I think a sample editor is a lot more important than a sampler - the two not being mutually exclusive.

I also think that would be a far easier transition for the Loop Construction View.

Yes, but what if you can hit both birds with one stone? 

Sitala plus an Editor? Sitala as the sampler (Drum machine) and loop construction as the editor? 

Or . . .

Sitala as both.

I like that idea more. 

14 minutes ago, Roland-Music said:

I don't know any DAW that has clip tempo changes, 

 

Exactly! 

This will bring the world of creativity to a whole new world. Especially with vocals and drum rolls - great for EDM and the metal heads. 

20 minutes ago, Roland-Music said:

If you are film scoring for example, you have global Clip Markers, that are nailed / locked to SMPTE-Timecode in the Movie.

This will be excellent to create the Horror high pitch FX and Slow down for that Drone brass string in Sci-Fi! Wouldn't have request it if I didn't do scroring too. 

If you can stretch a clip within a locked Global Tempo - pretty sure clip tempo will work the same. You can't speed up or slow down a clip with an envelope on time stretch now can you?! 

FL studio do this with ease!

Cheers!

4 hours ago, chris.r said:

well, I'm guilty as charged... I read manuals too .

😂😂

A youtube video will only show you what that person knows and not much of a "why" we do that. 

I'm big on wanting to know why.

I remember asking my grade 1 teacher a "why" question. Apparently I was 5 in the video my mom took at the time and keep on playing it every year on Christmas days. 

Little Me: Mrs. Jackie - why is 1 - 1 = 0 when there's two "1's" 

Mrs. Jackie: If you have 1 apple and you eat that apple, how many apples do you have? 

Me: None

Only a couple of teachers could tolerate my WHY's through my school days. 

So, Yeah! I too read manuals. 😅 

7 minutes ago, Starship Krupa said:

Well, this is kind of embarrassing, although in a pretty great way.

I was working with pitch shifting some imported audio in CbB this afternoon and reading the Reference Guide. In amongst the various nuggets, I spotted this:

"You can drag and drop clips from Cakewalk to another application or to a directory in Windows."

Um, say what? I knew you could drag and drop into Cakewalk, but not the other direction. I opened an instance of Sitala and grabbed a clip from an audio track and dropped it onto one of Sitala's pads, and it worked perfectly.

Between Cakewalk and Sitala, and I tried Speed Drum Lite and it worked just the same, they already do what I most want a phrase sampler to do.

Yes, this has been possible for years. Not recently, but yeeears. 

14 hours ago, sjoens said:

Global Snap only affects tempo time

That's why it need some much needed update for "TEMPO EVENTS" 

It's impossible to see the tempo selection to slow or speed up on bigger screens. Those digits are so tiny! 

It will be much easier to make a selection as how you would do with any envelope on a clip. quicker, easier and way more precise than the current inserts. 

Insert some nodes, move up or down to your preferred tempo on your selected region within the time (CLIP TEMPO) - done! 

This will allow to only speed up or slow down the preferred clip and not global tempo. If I just want to speed up drums - that all I want to speed up. 

3 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

Hi @Scott Wheeler,

Thanks for the message. I'm not familiar with Sitala so I should check it out. I assume that the plugin is a multi-out VST instrument? Both VST2 and VST3 have  multi-out support. What is the purpose of the custom API?
Feel free to PM me and we can discuss further.

@Scott Wheeler 

Thanks for taking interest in this @Noel Borthwick 

We appreciate you ×1000000  - no matter the outcome of it. 

3 hours ago, Scott Wheeler said:

I thought I'd go ahead and drop in slightly more technical details in case @Noel Borthwick or others are interested.

The API for this is very small -- basically the 4 functions that have to be implemented.  I just posted the current version (which we're using for Reaper at the moment) in a Github Gist:

https://gist.github.com/scotchi/4066f56b71b7b3b112b05df26d52034c

There are a couple core ideas here:

• We want create several very small interfaces, so that DAWs can pick and choose which extensions to implement
• We want to keep the interfaces very generic so they can be implemented frictionlessly by other plugins

And Intergrated too. 🆓+🎂🚶=🔥

On 10/27/2020 at 5:25 PM, brandon said:

Two great pieces of advice. Thank you both.

Also in the Console View, hold down "Alt" move the mouse just above the Input Insert - Left click and drag the track LEFT or RIGHT. 

55 minutes ago, Scott Wheeler said:

I don't quite understand what you're suggesting here.

I'm adding to what Chris said.

There's are still third party pirate companies that creates their own "exe" files with hidden apps and updates to that hidden product on an owned product. 

These apps hide their existence on  devices by removing their icons from home screen. 

Example: I was testing out another free vst, which I saw on a pop-up advertising link through a site I was on. I downloaded the file, but it asked me to download an anti-virus software first, boy did it caused problems on my laptop (always test things on it first before I officially install in on the studio system) I then for the original site to that plugin and I got a clean install there. 

But we all know it's impossible to search the entire World Wide Web for these copies. 

6 hours ago, Scott Wheeler said:

That went away ... I think after the second alpha?  Anyway, hasn't been the case for more than a year at least.

Original installation - no-nara! you have a clean install.

The problem comes in with 3rd party websites that creates their own install with some free vsts - with an advertising link to an App they offer that you have to install first, before you can install the actual product. 

I think you have to include this on the site. 

It seems like cakewalks main focus is on Articulation at the moment. 

The tempo event need some major upgrades as well. A better way to draw in the differences is much needed as it is way out-dated.

There's no snap settings on it for stability. So if you don't have the patients, it'll definitely fry some brain cells with frustrations on a bigger screen. 

Request to draw the differences in by selecting a region and move up or down to set your tempo directly with displaying the envelope on the clip itself. 

8 hours ago, Tommy T said:

I would love to have a 32 bit floating point recording bit depth option available in the audio data menu to accompany the 16, 24, 32, and 64 bit recording depths like Cubase and others. Icing on the cake.

I've experiment with this and it was awesome! Love the dynamic range and headroom, but I kinda miss the distortion with 24bit. It helps to shape the sound for me. Though this will be an advantage to CbB - your listeners wont know the difference. 

I say add it for those who want it, but don't need it. For me 24bit - 48000Khz sample rate brings the candy. 

1 hour ago, Starship Krupa said:

so Speed Drum or Sitala for me.

Those are the only two I use daily. 

I too find TX16wx to be powerful, but it can definitely get complicated. For me simplicity is key and powerful. 

9 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

From what I observe, the sampler market these days is split into two types: the phrase sampler/drum machine type where you drop in phrases and one shots and the type where you have sounds spread across the keyboard, using stretching and pitch shifting algorithms. The first type is usually played/programmed in a style where you trigger the individual sounds as separate elements, the second is used more like an organ, playing melodies and chords.

In my memory, this developed as a result of there being two kinds of hardware that did this. Originally the Fairlight, Mirage, etc. were the second type, but could also of course do phrases and one shots mapped to individual notes. Then later, hardware phrase samplers like the MPC came along and became immensely popular in hip hop and EDM production, doing stutters and short loops. Ambient/downtempo people like me would be lost without being able to drop in those breathy phrases and dialog samples from movies, and phrase samplers are great for that. Yes, you can do it as clips in your DAW, but lots of people like to improvise it in real time.

As we've been discussing "Cakewalk needs a sampler" in the forum, I've tried to emphasize this distinction, because some people (EDM/hip hop/rap producers) think of a "sampler" as the phrase sampler kind, and others (scoring/arrangers) think of a "sampler" as the other kind, with libraries of orchestral sounds and samples of classic synths. Since the styles of music where they are prominent can be so divergent, to the heavy users of each the "other" type may not even be on their radar, for the arranger types because Kontakt and Sampletank can be used as phrase samplers, so why bother with a dedicated one. For the EDM types, they might just use a loop for their string pads.

The second type of sampler user are correct, IMO in the position that since Kontakt and Sampletank and Zampler and the like do it so well and are industry standards, Cakewalk doesn't need one of those. Their workflow is such that they don't really need to be integrated in the same way that phrase samplers are.

For example, Mixcraft comes with both kinds of samplers, but the one I use the most is the phrase sampler. It's well integrated in that after you've made clips in a track, you can just drag and drop them onto a sampler pad, or right click and choose "send to sampler." That's huge, not having to go to the step of rendering them to audio first. Speeds up the workflow immensely. Their loop construction module also has buttons and right-click menus so that after you've got your warp slices, you can select them and send them straight to the phrase sampler. The phrase sampler has facilities for reversing, looping or one-shotting or choking on retrigger, trimming, stretching, changing pitch, applying filters, amplitude envelopes, etc.

The integrated type also use fewer system resources, because they play clips in the same way they are played in a track. They don't have to be loaded into memory separately. Although they do have the ability to drag and drop external audio files.

tl/dr: I think it's important when advocating for this feature to use the term "phrase sampler" to avoid confusion between the types.

A really simple Hybrid: Dropzone+Sitala. Drum Machine+"phrase sampler." 

Cakewalk already has a browser. So we dont need what kontakt and the others do with samples and folders. 

Drag and Drop, Right Click to send to Track View to replace or insert as new. Attack, Release and pitch and ability to play across all key's and send to piano roll. 8 Drumpads included with their own Output setting that links with the Console. 

Cakewalk provides reverse and effects and a great browser already. Other features can be added later. 

31 minutes ago, Rfcousins said:

but 10 year old tech is testament to the good build choices back in 2010. Ha Ha !

Ha ha! True. 

What's been working for me over the years and from personal experiences, is to look at what is build for high performance today - that would be gaming computers, right? They're design to take the punch and for me it has always been the "MSI" brand - just me 2 cents. 

Blessings to you and your family over the holidays. 

4 hours ago, winkpain said:

Does anyone know a way of being able to change at least the contrast on the grid lines in Melodyne??

There seems to be nothing on doing so out there anywhere, so I'm assuming "no", but I figured I'd finally ask here.

They are next to bloody invisible on my system.

Read hear how to: 

https://helpcenter.celemony.com/editor2/en/singletrack_tour_74.html

15 minutes ago, Rfcousins said:

I only see the BIOS Firmware update that I already did dated 8/8/2013. It looks to me like the drivers were not updated to include WIN 10 either. Did you see something different on another site?

Was about to report back on that. 

It seem as if we've hit the wall. The only thing I can think off right now is - pack up the 3.0 cable and use the 2.0 cable and port. 

You dont have a issue with the drivers from microsoft? Another solution I can think of right now, is if you buy a 2.0 to 3.0 converter USB HUB.

Or 

The internal card. 

8 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

unless they've already started work on their own sampler, 

Do you know something we don't  😆😂

10 minutes ago, Rfcousins said:

Just looked at the Asus website again. I guess the problem is that there are NO drivers there for WIN 10. Obsolete motherboard might be the issue. It is 10 years old now.  Installed drivers are:

Yeah. Are you still considering the hardware? 

2 minutes ago, Rfcousins said:

Ok! I will revisit the drivers one more time! Appreciate your support.

Roger

Okay - this is what I stumbled on so far. 

"Your motherboards drivers stops at Windows 8.1."

However . . . I is fixable with a Bios and Firmware update, but - I highly do not recommend you to do this and discourage you from ever thinking to try it! if you've never done this before. This will destroy your PC and you'll have to replace your bios chip. Yep I used to be in I.T

2 minutes ago, Rfcousins said:

 or is the USB3.0 driver dropping the interface.

This problem stand out way more than any other issues in discussion at the moment. 

That's why my focus are locked in on this. The only solution that worked for me, was the drivers from the manufacturer's website. 

6 minutes ago, Rfcousins said:

Thanks again. Nothing I didn't know here. Have updated drivers etc and even tried rollbacks to correct. I posted some refined findings today for everyone to look at.

The cable idea was worth a try, but unfortunately did not make a difference. At this moment I am feeling that there is an issue with the USB 3.0 ports on my motherboard that goes beyond drivers. Maybe be I need to try another add-on card.

Regards,

Roger

What's the brand and model number of your motherboard?