Will.

It literally depends on your style in your genre. If its not needed - its not needed.It is that simple. 

If it is needed. 

I'm going to keep saying this, what Cakewalk has, is pre roll auto punch. It only uses a different language than other DAWs. 

4 minutes ago, Kevin Perry said:

Some DirectX effects do behave weirdly with interleave (the old Project 5 ones really fall over badly in some cases).

Sonitus was just a ln example for everyone to try is it is available to all. Try any of your own true stereo plugins. 

Not one thats both mono and stereo. 

2 minutes ago, Glenn Stanton said:

However, when i tried H-Reverb and Breverb  

This is because they are not true stereo - rather hybrid. Meaning: they follow the interleave strictly. 

True stereo is a plugin the takes your mono channel and turning it into stereo. Ao if you have mono plugins in your chain and insert a stereo plugin after it - it makes the channel stereo. There are 1000s of creativity reason why you would want to do this. 

My word! 

I've literally just found this issue in projects I have sent to clients already . . .  🤦🏻‍♂️

3 minutes ago, David Baay said:

You might want to clarify that

No need to clarify - seeing that my explanation goes straight to the point. 

1 hour ago, David Baay said:

Can't repro, but not sure how the various actions would be related and might be missing something.

Does it really matter that the plugin is set full wet and the clip is bounced and the interleave on the Master is toggled to reproduce the issue?

I went through the steps twice from scratch starting with the Basic template and the interleave on the track with the Sonitus Reverb is remaining mono as expected. in the first case, I started playback a few times at various points, and in the second case, I did all the steps without ever playing back.

 

Here:

It doesn't have to be a reverb or with its dry all the way down. In fact: its with every plugin that are true stereo plugins that doesn't collapse to mono on insert. 

Keep in mind, your audio tracks interleave must be in Mono - this is key.

Create a mono audio track with its interleave swtich to mono and record something.  

2: Insert a reverb with a Dry and Wet knob. One that comes to mind everyone should have is the Sonitus Reverb and turn its dry all the way down. 

3: Collapse the Master to mono.

4: Go to the TV and do a normal "bounce to clip" as if you've just finished tidying up the clip. 

5: Go back to the Master track and switch its interleave back to stereo. 

The track with the reverb stay mono until you bypass the plugin within the FX Bin (not the plugin) off and back on. 

22 minutes ago, Lord Tim said:

This isn't what the OP was getting at but you're the expert, I'll let you take it from here.

As you wish. Master. 

This is what his post reads: 

"would be nice to have a pre-roll record function, like studio one has. you can specify a number of beats/bars that will play before the playhead marker sets record so that you can hear the track(s) up to the record point... makes it easier to play along to the music for punch and rolling. basically, this is exactly the same as when a producer plays a track and manually punches you in while it plays, but enables to you to do it when you are tracking yourself."

The document reads. 

5 hours ago, Lord Tim said:

Scenario 1 example:

While the transport is stopped, you have your Now Time on measure 20, and you've set a pre-roll of 2 measures. You press R to record, and playback starts from measure 18, and actually begins recording from measure 20, and continues until you press stop..

My first video. 

Also: 

What is requested here reads as follows: 

Plus . . . .

1 hour ago, Lord Tim said:

To actually clarify what people are talking about in this thread, without all of the bickering and stupid crap, I'm going to assume @Eezye meant the following:

Scenario 1 example:

While the transport is stopped, you have your Now Time on measure 20, and you've set a pre-roll of 2 measures. You press R to record, and playback starts from measure 18, and actually begins recording from measure 20, and continues until you press stop.

Scenario 2 example:

Essentially this is Auto-Punch but doesn't stop. You choose the measure you want the punch to activate, let Cakewalk play from wherever, and it kicks in to record from that measure, but continues until it's stopped or taken out of record mode manually.

You're describing what I have done in both video - with scenario 1 where recording starts and stops Automatically.

Both scenarios are actual pre roll. Cakewalks approach towards this is a little different. 

I even download the Trial version of STOne and followed Every step in the video - It is the same thing. 

This thread is exactly the same as all the many varispeed requests keep being made, but doesn't know that cakewalk actually already can do this. 

1 hour ago, fonolit said:

3. All following nodes are changed together with the first one.

Make sure you dont select all the nodes. 

6 minutes ago, bdickens said:

 

Good one. 😂

27 minutes ago, Eezye said:

how about you CTFO bro, don't fly off the handle at me because you don't understand things. other people here understood me perfectly well, cakewalk does not offer this function. you have to do a workaround, and it could be so much better with this addition. how about you quit visiting this thread and let those who get it chime in

CTFOY "Bro." Trying to help your WBA. Watch your video again. 

Good luck in requesting something that is already available in Cakewalk. 

🍻 Heres to Auto punch, Take Lanes and many more ways to track yourself seemlessly. 😜 

RTFM! 

Now you're just rambling a lot of BS and making things up. Cause what that Guy explain in that video on "Pre Roll" is exactly as in these videos I have sent. 

At this point I believe you do not know what you want and just making up things everytime. 

No dang difference as he even said he has to go in and out of record by punching it in. 

I believe you're confusing this with step record. 

In the millenial morse code of  @bdickens RTFM! 

Infact: I take back my previous reply about it would beneficial to have it, cause it just dawn on me now, Cakewalk has been doing this way before STOne. 

I just never use it because i find it of no use. 

32 minutes ago, Eezye said:

It's ok if you don't understand it, 

Pretty sure this applies to you at this point. 

Cause If you go into the preferences and the metronome TAB what you're looking for is there. Then locate the record TAB and select Auto Punch and make some changes there. 

Different DAWs = different way of setting things up 

Just like every country that has its own language. The same goes for DAWS and analog consoles. It does the same thing, but the approach to get there is different.

31 minutes ago, Eezye said:

im requesting the playhead go back a preset number of beats or bars before the recording actually starts. 

I think your confusion comes with the pop-up windows in STOne and the Preference Window in Cakewalk. 

Use the shortcut keys Ctrl-W to toggle between the desired playhead options. 

Otherwise: 

Pretty much the same as in STOne and Logic. 

31 minutes ago, Eezye said:

i would consider it a HUGE improvement. any time i don't have to use a workaround to get the desired action, that is a time savings. and as you pointed out with the logic example, this is a standard feature on many DAWs now. it hugely speeds up recording when you are the one engineering and tracking alone. as far as "what's the point", it's much easier to get a good take if you play along to the track a few beats/bars before recording starts... and without preroll record, you have to set region points (one being many many measures back depending on the length of the section being recorded and then click back with the mouse before the region to get this type of behavior. with the option baked in, you only need to set the bars/beats in the menu and hit R wherever the playhead is located. so much easier

So you have a timing issue? (No disrespect) Cause I get good results on the first take with a count-in. I set a permanent 4beat count-in on one measure before the actual recording starts and nail it then and there. Its less mouse clicks. I just press Alt&R to arm the track and hit R when im ready to record. What ever I want to record - i always make sure it is stuck in my head. 

Like i've said: I do not see it as a "HUGE" improvement but only as a "Beneficial" option to have for those that finds it difficult to nail things on the first go with a "count-in." 

PS: I just tested this in CbB and there dont seem to be any difference. What are you actually requesting? I even watched your video. 

26 minutes ago, Eezye said:

i would consider it a HUGE improvement. any time i don't have to use a workaround to get the desired action, that is a time savings. and as you pointed out with the logic example, this is a standard feature on many DAWs now. it hugely speeds up recording when you are the one engineering and tracking alone. as far as "what's the point", it's much easier to get a good take if you play along to the track a few beats/bars before recording starts... and without preroll record, you have to set region points (one being many many measures back depending on the length of the section being recorded and then click back with the mouse before the region to get this type of behavior. with the option baked in, you only need to set the bars/beats in the menu and hit R wherever the playhead is located. so much easier

So you have a timing issue? (No disrespect) Cause I get good results on the first take with a count-in. I set a permanent 4beat count-in on one measure before the actual recording starts and nail it then and there. Its less mouse clicks. I just press Alt&R to arm the track and hit R when im ready to record. What ever I want to record - i always make sure it is stuck in my head. 

Like i've said: I do not see it as a "HUGE" improvement but only as a "Beneficial" option to have for those that finds it difficult to nail things on the first go with a "count-in." 

PS: I just tested this in CbB and there dont seem to be any difference. What are you actually requesting? I even watched your video. 

On 6/7/2022 at 9:18 PM, Eezye said:

It is absolutely a huge workflow improvement. Tracking parts more specifically, or writing on the fly while recording etc

I wouldn't go as far as to say its a "HUGE" improvement.

Though I hear what you're saying. I've used it before, in fact just recently when a pianist asked for it using logic pro in the main studio. I wouldn't use it myself, i really dont see the point in it - but it would be nice to have the option when collaborating with other producers/beatmakers and when artists from other labels ask for it. 

But to say it is an improvement - NOPE. It would rather be "Beneficial" to have it as an option available in case it gets asked for. 

8 hours ago, OutrageProductions said:

 Voxengo SPAN

Yep. Been using it for 10 years. I use mostly dB5meter these days when I'm not in Logic. 

😑 Wear your reading glasses @David Baay 😐

What ever happened to AN-879 Analyst? 

I don't recall having her in X1. Did she come bundled or as a separate purchase? What happen to all these lost plugins? There seems to be plenty i dont recall ever seeing over the years. Was this before the X1 Series?