chris.r

1 hour ago, Jesse Jost said:

Edit: Adding emojis to convey sense of warmth and security

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      ^^what's on top of that cake???

5 hours ago, chris.r said:

Some software install, idk how to call it, filters maybe, probably in dx plugin form. They can show up in Cakewalk and can easily crash it. I use plugin manager to exclude them. I prefer to use plugin manager for that over poking in the registry manually.

Forgot to add I use PM for troubleshooting sometimes. Didn't even get to make own layouts yet, that was planned after I upgrade my hardware to 64bit and move on to Bandlab's Cake.

This looks lovely! I have a feature suggestion. Would be great if I could open DNA groove banks (.grv) or extract groove from midi/audio transients beats to the memory and make some 'humanizing' around that groove with this tool. If there's no such possibility in Cakewalk already (maybe I'm missing it somehow) than that would be something for consideration, if it's not asking too much.

I know one can do it in few steps but doing some slight randomization aroung grooves in one go and audition the results in realtime while adjusting could be golden.

Some software install, idk how to call it, filters maybe, probably in dx plugin form. They can show up in Cakewalk and can easily crash it. I use plugin manager to exclude them. I prefer to use plugin manager for that over poking in the registry manually.

CALs saved me impossible to count hours of manual work in prv.

How about a dedicated window where we could in a bit more visual way set the connections and routings in CakeLab? Where the tracks outputs go, etc. Could be either in form of a matrix (like the Pin Connection Management in Mixbus) or patchbay or more modular style (for example like in MUX if at all possible)? Something that would make all the routing in cakelab ably (<-a word found through google translator).

I get your point. I had Iphone once and could stand it for 2 weeks and then gave it for my kids. For home use I absolutely prefer windows but still would go with macbook+garageband combo for live use nonetheless 🤩. If only not the OS upgrades...

Back to the review, I think it's clear he made it in rush so it's understandable in some places the score is clearly too low. Enough to mention Remote Collaboration "0" or Software Updates "0", it's ridiculous. In my own review Cakewalk would have significantly more points. The more I'm impressed how quick and on point he was in finding the flaws, I particularly appreciate his versatile point of view, good job. Just imagine how good Cakewalk can become with most the issues fixed.

13 minutes ago, willard cottrell said:

I read about disabling bkgrd programs.  How does one with a smattering of ignorance determine what is absolutely needed in the bkgrd?  Is there a guide somewhere that says you can disable program xyz w/o hurting normal performance of the computer when NOT using the DAW.

I suppose you're talking about services? I would like to know as well. I was searching for some guidances and haven't found any that would go into details.

I was experimenting with XP services years ago trying to disable them by trial and error and have encountered too many surprising issues so I dropped it. There's too much dependencies and some services I couldn't breakdown what are they for and no description.

3 hours ago, Misha said:

DON'T TAKE MY TAKE LANES AWAY FROM ME OR I WILL TURN INTO DRACULA!  👹  (does this look like Dracula?)

for me more like a pirate's shield 🤔

2 hours ago, Alex H. said:

... Yes, people wants new features but polished ones and only followed by a solid core functionality. I agree with Bumbleebee in this part: 

"If Bandlab just took what’s already there and fixed it, it would be a great product. Get rid of the annoying popups, consolidate the menus, finish the tab view, finish the matrix view, improve automation, give the console an update, add some proper MIDI tooling, improve audiosnap, speed up the GUI, and integrate a decent audio editor, add AAF support. Now you have a product that will give any DAW a run for its money no matter the cost."

I would add better integration with hardware controllers to the list.

10 hours ago, azslow3 said:

The man is smart and does many good things, but...

He prefers Apple over Windows and so he has problems with many things but he does not have problems with dropped "legacy" features nor with single company eco-systems (apple, presonus). Not my style.

Hehehe yes I agree, I prefer Windows too, generally. But I have to admit, when my friends are pulling out their Macbooks, they just plug them in and everything is working straight away, always! Without lagging, without hiccups. I have to fight the drivers everytime I try to move my laptop on stage. Better not to touch windows machine once it's working fine.

10 hours ago, azslow3 said:

Also he use huge resolution monitors (only?).  And as the result  I was unable to finish reading his review with (latest) Firefox, these ridiculous big screenshots which "jump" on there own (why?) .

I had to finish reading on my smartphone. My firefox didn't make it as well.

"The smart tool’s hot regions are small, so changing what the tool does requires hovering over tiny portions of notes."

I don't know, I kind of appreciate how deep is he going into details. Such things, most people aren't even aware of, when  first time working with new software. Those things you typically rather sense somehow but not notice consciously stright away. I can imagine, if you're new to Cakewalk, and have been trying some other DAWs in meantime, then you may get the feel of it as 'clumsy' or 'unresponsive', I've heard that about Sonar in the past. Of course I'm used to work with Cakewalk since more than 20 years so yeah, I may be "20 years behind" too, but he seems really experienced with handful other DAWs...

"I have spent 100+ hours in each one of these products creating detailed lists and coming up with objective evaluative tests to compare them. I’ve also worked for a handful of companies making these products, written various extensions, themes and a number of VST plug-ins. Oh yeah, and I am a recording engineer with OCD..."

I actually would love to see some bits like the 'smart tool's hot regions' adjusted. I believe I can work fast in Cakewalk but as I'm watching some videos where people are working in prv in, say, Fruity loops I can't stop wondering how faster are they. I'm not a programmer and have no clue how much work would that need. However the most important thing would be some proper decisions as for how much to adjust them.

And as I read the article I see honest approach and no hard feelings:

"Cakewalk - WINDOWS ONLY I have included this because it is a great product despite being Windows only."

So yeah, I probably would set goals according to this guy.

I find most of his points resonable.

Is your MacOS direct link pointing on windows version?

EDIT: sorry, after I've refreshed the page your links are fine now! 🤪

4 hours ago, CosmicDolphin said:

1.  A quicker way to toggle between view types instead of going into menus...

+100 there's lots of space on console's menu bar or the left vertical bar for placing few buttons, no need for diving into menus for some most used functions like show hide sends or large/narrow strips etc

9 hours ago, Chuck E Baby said:

it would be nice to have in the multidock

or vertically on the left side where inspector is

11 minutes ago, Musicianaire said:

Command Center was golden, it would be nice if they kept it.

Maybe now, to step things up from 'golden', they'll come up with something new 'platinum'...

I'm keeping my eye on platform m+ & platform b combo for quite some time and was wondering how would that work with cakewalk. Thanks so much for sharing your findings, you put much hope into my heart by posting the above!

5 hours ago, dantarbill said:

18 hours ago, scook said:

FWIW CbB includes REmatrix Solo in the ProChannel

Thanks!  I was thinking that there was something built in but couldn't remember what it was.

+1 and it allows to import own IRs if needed

Alright, sounds like still worth of trying out then.  Cheers!

Thanks!

You think the new versions updated for CakeLab, with new toolbars like the export one, can be still backwards compatible with Sonar Platinum?

Thanks for your efforts gents!

Yes, lovely.

I understand that general is more for a discussion and q&a for quick answers that can be later searched and found easily (when marked 'answered').

Speaking about small controllers, there's the relatively new icon platform m+. Do we have anybody, trying to connect that one with Cakewalk, on the forum?