puddy

20 minutes ago, Feral State Sound said:

Could you develop your opinion more? I think that this guy is making a real effort on creating free content for the people interested on Cakewalk but he cannot continue due to those bugs. Nevertheless, he is a reasonable person and he mantains his commitment of creating tutorials for it.

While I was looking around the net for a Cakewalk video I came across his YT video where I felt he  was actually bashing the software, to an extent where I left a comment saying "You seem like a very bitter man"... because that video was just uncalled for.

The videos are malicious, including the one on the OP... he also puts a category of people for whom it would be worth it downloading Cakewalk, "those getting used to digital audio etc", really?

Quite a lot I could say but it's really not necessary.

2 minutes ago, Feral State Sound said:

I think that him should stay considering that he has the biggest Cakewalk oriented Youtube channel... In fact, I think that Bandlab should contact him for keep making content and also try to fix these bugs as soon as possible (Fabfilter is not a underground plugin company and all of these bugs are severe).

I'm still standing by my view

That guy should just go away...

8 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

I guess quite a few of us are still feeling burned by the events of Nov 2017. The Cakewalk development team is now far smaller than it was, and a lot of us are keen to see them focus on fixing some of the long overdue bugs, rather than work on what would be a quite large new feature.

But I totally agree with your sentiments here. No one should be shot down for making a perfectly valid feature request.

Sure thanks Msmcleod, the feeling of being burned from the mentioned events has been evident, which I guess is natural...

3 minutes ago, Misha said:

CosmicDolphin, can you please explain what you mean by:

"need something fast and deeply integrated" ... How is Kontakt or Halion VST's are less integrated or "not fast".  Sorry if I sound silly, I am a learner and always hungry for new info.

Puddy... 

I think you changed the subject a bit from requesting for sampler to a much wider request.  Here is my take. If you walk into a bakery and request a cheeseburger... even if they make one on "special request" I do not think it will be a magical moment for the taste buds.  And of course wise versa,  if you walk into a burger joint and request a cannoli, I do not believe that would be worth spending money on.

I tried whole bunch of DAWs. I always came back to Cakewalk. I love it dearly for the workflow, tracking, touch navigation, excellent forum   etc.  I guess it is closely related to the type of music I tinker with ... But at the same time I do not believe a DAW (any DAW) should be a Jack of all trades. I think Meng and Bakers took the right path by fixing things that were long due and polishing it,  instead of rolling out completely new features without addressing stability issues. 

Again, I am all in for sampler +rompler+ tone generator and preferably that would have a full GM2 and other synths maps, that would eat SFz / SF2 / WAV, etc. formats.    TTS1 is loooong due for overhaul... but for now, I wish to Meng and crew all the best, and to continue their great work in supporting the best free DAW that exists in the world today, giving a chance to people of all social strata to create music professionally.

 

 

The main I idea to my post/reply was to support the sampler request (in fact, plus any other request that the developers may see the need/ capability of implementing).

No, I have not changed the sampler request to a wider FR but just stated my observation on how other forum users kill other's valid requests because they themselves don't see their need. There is no reason why a DAW should not have a feature/s that other modern DAWs have unless the developers/Owners deem that those specific features can not be implemented because of whatever reason.

Your analogy of Jack of all trades is not really correct, as you have correctly stated, one of the objectives is "

giving a chance to people of all social strata to create music professionally", how will this be possible if the software only caters for the type of music that tinkers with you??

The requirement is not for the company to come up with out of this world features , but things that modern musicians would come to expect in a DAW, surely if this can be afforded, if not, then it's still fine, but there's no need for forum users to kill other user's requests because requests are open to anyone using the DAW.

Thank you so much Abacab for your reply which is well thought and structured.

I agree fully with what you are saying...

I have been lurking in the forum since the announcement of Cakewalk return and it being free (to my delight😊). Though I will not have anything to compare it to as I have not made any research, but I think on the stability side I can safely say that Cakewalk is on par with other DAWs if not on the leading pack in this regard, judging from the work that has been done since the announcement. Yes there still are glitches ( for an example, testing the elastique feature, no matter how far I stretch,  the result will be an audio with crackling sound, something I haven't seen anyone complaining about, so for now I'm trying to see if there's nothing wrong I'm doing on my side).

Back to the topic, I feel like the bug fixing and new feature implementation could be balanced somehow. In fact what seems bad to me is seeing feature requests being killed by other forum users.

PS: The latter paragraph in my initial reply to your post was not necessarily directed to you.

Thanks

On 3/29/2019 at 3:44 AM, Misha said:

 A basic sampler might be good idea, +1,  

but I think 3d party stuff will always be better,  just because developers of that soft been working on things for some time now. What about Halion or Kontakt? They do have samplers that can do pretty complex stuff. 

 

But why do  you feel like it should be basic?

And a third party stuff should not be cast on stone that it will work better.

The main crippling element to the development of the DAW will be people who negate posted requests, especially primarily because there is a third  party VST doing a similar job, or people living in the past not wanting obvious things to go for a change (yes there is nothing wrong with using one DAW  and all its capabilities for your work)... I've seen a post regarding upgrading of Sonitus GUI plugins being reduced to nothing... Yes they would do with a rework and please don't compare them to reaper ones because that is REAPER and can stay with such. A post regarding Cakewalk GUI-reworking suffered the same fate... YES obviously Cakewalk GUI needs to be modernised!!, nothing necessarily wrong with Cakewalk GUI layout, the original Tungsten and especially Mercury are clean and professional but there is no denying (at least to me, others I have seen FR from and probably some new users seeing the DAW for the first time) that they look OLD. It is up to the Cakewalk developers and Owners to decide whether a suggestion  (FR) is needed as they are also people and can see what's happening around them, with regards to the DAW world I mean. Surely the owner of Cakewalk cannot have resuscitated this DAW only for the benefit of the '10000' loyal users, as I have an understanding that his main objective is to provide access for music making to everyone, including beginners like me.

hello world! 

Hopin the OP is/will not by any chance be taken for granted...  Modernization of the DAW.

New user here... I love the DAW very much and appreciate the strides taken since the release of the new cakewalk, including the fact that it has opened doors for everyone to create (or at least try to create) MUSIC... using quality software.

I haven't created anything using Cakewalk (by Bandlab), in months, both because I am a beginner and that the DAW is very uninspiring... I'm nonetheless hopin for the best.

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