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4 hours ago, locrian said:

Equally surprising is that the 3GB loss of drive space was due solely to the installation of NA2 (I checked before updating any VIs/FXs).

That's surprising! I see Native Access 2 only using 375MB here.

I frequently see my C drive disk usage increase by several GBs after a new install (in excess of the expected actual files installed). I have discovered that Windows usually makes a system restore point when you run an installer, if you have System Restore protection enabled on your system drive. That can easily eat up at least several GBs. 🙄

You can see how much drive space System Restore is currently occupying by opening System Protection from Windows Settings. Alternatively you can confirm this by using a disk space analyzer like the excellent TreeSize Free run as Administrator, and looking at the System Volume Information folder. They are the large files in braces with long names in hex. One of the many mysteries of Windows!

You can delete the restore points if you don't need them by clicking on "Configure" in System Protection, which shows the space used, and then clicking on "Delete". I just scanned with TreeSize and they were using 3GB here, so I deleted all. Then created a manual restore point that only used 1.1 GB. They do begin to add up, even though you can set a max usage of 1% of the drive, but in my case that equals 4.64GB (on a 500GB M.2 SSD).

Bottom line is that I suspect Native Access is not using 3GB of drive space by itself.

2 hours ago, kitekrazy said:

I think one could create a challenge by creating a project using plugins by one developer. 

KVR has done that with their OSC (One Synth Challenge).

https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/home

16 minutes ago, jude77 said:

Well, that really clarified things.  Thanks, IK!

I guess that we are all unpaid IK update beta testers, right? 🤣

4 minutes ago, locrian said:

Actually, it seems I now have version 3.3.

That there seems to be a mystery to all. As far as I can gather, it is "officially" Native Access 2, v3.3.0. It seems that the devs went a bit crazy with the versioning... 🤣

6 minutes ago, locrian said:

Although it is an overall improvement from NA1, there are two issues: 1) the CPU uasage is now 20% (it used to be ~3-5%); and 2) I just lost ~3GB of disk space.  I hope the former is due to some initial indexing of all my products and the latter is the result of temporary installation files (though CCleaner did not recover much of the lost space).  Hmm.

Not sure why you are seeing higher CPU usage, but I may have an idea for the disk space.

Check your "Preferences > File Management > Content Location" if you usually install your content on another drive like I do. I had to switch mine back to my D drive after the upgrade.

Otherwise, pay a visit to the NI forum and add your voice. Better chance of finding someone with your issue over there, and it's the best way to contribute to product improvement...

6 minutes ago, locrian said:

I actually had NA2 but uninstalled it because there were lots of problems.  I'll try again.  Cheers...

NA2 is still a bit rough around the edges, but at least I can get my updates now! 😂

Visit the Native Instruments forum for related Native Access discussions by users, and feedback from NI staff. https://community.native-instruments.com/categories/native-access

8 minutes ago, Doug Rintoul said:

Element does not load 32 bit plugins in 64 bit environments so it cannot be used as a bridge

Great point, but I no longer use 32-bit plugins, and I would suggest others to migrate away from them for stability reasons.

If they still work, fine, but they are not likely to be getting any updates. Like any other EOL software, you takes your chances!

20 minutes ago, locrian said:

It seems once a plugin becomes a resource hog, it stays that way forever.  😢

Or until you get a new computer!

I have been using plugins for twenty+ years, and have lived on both sides of that issue. Every time that I upgrade my computer, it's like "life is great now, I can run anything". Then 5 years later it's "that new plugin is a CPU hog". Then after another upgrade, "life is great, I can run anything".

The circle of life!

14 minutes ago, locrian said:

Just curious, was this update made available to anyone still using the old version of Native Acces (version 1)?  I'm still using that one and don't see the version 6.50 Reaktor update.  The latest one for me is 6.4.3 and I'm wondering if v6.50 is only available via the newer versions of Native Access.

I believe NA1 has fallen behind. It failed to show me the the recent Massive X update.

All was good after I upgraded to NA2. So it looks like time to make the move forward has arrived...

36 minutes ago, dumbquestions said:

Is this comparable to metaplugin by DDMF?

It's free, no risk! Go check it out!

1 hour ago, John Maar said:

I hope I'm wrong, but it seems to me that InMusic is where music software goes to die (AIR, in my case). Not a single update in several years.

I'm with you regarding inMusic. IMO that is the only company worse than Waves.

I've never used BFD, but based on the track record of other software that inMusic have acquired (and I have a shedload of it), I'd be less likely to get involved with them again.

I hope they do right with BFD for all of the existing users out there.

43 minutes ago, Zo said:

Automatic migration for maschine and complete kontrol is nice but are they talking about reaktor only or he whole NI line or the whole Vst 3 plugins even 3rd party

Just a Reaktor update...

43 minutes ago, Zo said:

Is the cpu hit bug adressed ? 

 

All we know for certain is that these were addressed:

• Minor bug fixes
• General reliability improvements

🤣

2 hours ago, David Jameson said:

However, INS files are text files and can be used by other programs that are able to read those INS files. Gig Performer can do this. Attached is a picture of a GP MIDI Out block intended to control a K2500 where an INS file for the Kurzweil K2500 has been loaded, thereby allowing patches to be selected by name rather than having to specify the bank select and program change numbers explicitly

All well and good. But a user would still need to own the actual defined instrument in order to make use of the definition files. The OP asked if he could use "instruments outside Cakewalk", so it wasn't initially clear what he was asking about.

A program that has support for Cakewalk .ins files can make use of them, as Gig Performer does.

6 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

Something came to me the other day as I was pondering whether or not to spring for Chromaphone 3 at $80

Now go back and plug it into those unfinished songs and let the magic speak!

It's been free for a while, since the dev closed the web store last year. But yeah, great app!!!

Easy to use host for patching together chains of your virtual instruments and effects plugins independently of a DAW. All MIDI and audio I/O ports are clearly exposed and can be connected together.

Pink Floyd cover: High Hopes

Fixed in Komplete Kontrol 2.9.0.

I missed this. Never got an email. But good news! New Riffer, Scaling UI size and New presets.

https://www.amplesound.net/en/news.asp

On the slim chance that the power failure corrupted something other than the drive or folder, you could check Windows for corrupted software.

From an elevated command prompt:  

• SFC /Scannow ... if that shows some corruption, you might also run...
• DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth
• DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

Other than that, maybe roll back to your most recent system image backup prior to the outage.

Follow the video tutorial that Byron posted, and try again. Good luck!

Updated. Runs at launch, so that parts not broken...

2 hours ago, Nick Blanc said:

Oh the irony...

WSJ has one of the tightest paywalls for those without a subscription. I don't even click anymore on WSJ articles linked to by search engines and other media sources.

7 hours ago, MarcL said:

I think Amplitube changes are mostly about adding new contents! IMO not worth installation if you don't require them!

I wasn't specifically calling out Amplitube. IKM do this with most of their software products. Quite annoying, and I would prefer to know if they fixed something that affected me. Usually just ignore updates presented without specifics.

I much prefer the way that some of the other leading manufacturers, such as Arturia, provide change info for updates.

The *.ins files are intended for use in Cakewalk. They are basically a list in text file format of the banks and patches included in a defined MIDI instrument.

"Instrument definitions are a powerful feature that make it easier for you to find the banks, patches, and controllers of your MIDI instruments. An instrument definition is a file that contains the names of the banks, patches, note names, bank select method, and controllers of an instrument. Instrument definitions for many popular MIDI instruments are included with Cakewalk software."

Nice Reaktion!