Resonant Serpent

Definitely get an audio interface with ASIO drivers. It'll save you a lot of headaches.

Thanks!

1 hour ago, Starship Krupa said:

It looks like people are upset that getting this new soft synth is only possible via subscription. Are there other features that are subscriber-only?

Audio Batch Converter, Presence XT Editor, PreSonus Symphonic Orchestra, Deep Flight ONE, Ampire High Density, Channel Strip Collection, CTC-1, Retro Mix Legends, and the sample libraries could all be purchased with a permanent license in the past. Now, you can only get these through the subscription. You can do the "hybrid subscription" and get access to them, but when your sub runs out you'll get a license to S1 that can't be updated, and it won't work with any of these addons. You'll have to resubscribe to access them in any song.

The shop page in 6.6 still shows them for sale, but I'm waiting on word from Presonus if this is just an oversight, or if these products can be purchased. 

If you cancel the hybrid subscription you keep a license that you can't update for S1, but you lose access to all of the addons. So, to open a song made with the S1 sub, you'd have to pay again to have access if those are included in your song.

I think it's totally lame. We've been asking for the bugs in Impact and Sampler to be fixed for years, and that's never happened. Instead we get a paywall for the new synth with previously purchasable features no longer for sale.

Fender is boofooing Presonus the same way Gibson did to Cakewalk. We all know how that turned out.

If you can't afford a large outlay, Splice has Cubase 13 Pro for 16.99 a month. It's not a subscription. You pay for 17 months and you get the permanent license. 

You don't get the current discount, but Cubase upgrades are pretty cheap. Last version to version upgrade was 99.00.

1 hour ago, Craig Anderton said:

FWIW, Cakewalk is one of the few programs whose MPE implementation handles MIDI guitars with MPE mode (Zivix Jamstik), not just Mono and Poly modes. This is essential for using MIDI guitar with multitimbral instruments.

I know, I know...I'm probably the only person here who cares about this. But it's an example of Cakewalk being on top of some things that are missing from other DAWs.

And, this is why I'm interested in the current development. There was a time when Cakewalk was ahead of everyone else when it came to just about everything. Looking forward to what they bring to the table in the future.

One of the issues I'm seeing today is that modules in the Control Bar will go completely dark. It happens after I have the interface to an instrument plugin like Omnisphere or Absynth open. I have to unlock the bar and resize the module to get it to show up correctly. Mainly happening with the Screenset module.

I finally had a chance to sit down and work with the new interface. 

I have to say that I'm really, really digging it. It's snappy, easy to read, and unlike Cubase and Studio One, it doesn't seem cluttered or have fonts that are too small.

Picked up the subscription, and going to give it some heavy use. 

As long as what I pay in a subscription goes towards a purchase, I have no problem with it. Currently buying about 20 plugins on Splice and everything offered by other companies like Kiloheartz and Minimal Audio. I make payments, but I eventually own the software.

I ended up canning my Presonus subscription because there was no end game. I'd never own the software through that route, and the "perks" like listening to two guys break down a mix or some lame sample material that I'd never use simply weren't worth the cost. I took the same money per month and bought an upgrade to Studio One through Zzounds. 

That's why I don't like the current subscription model for Sonar. There's no ownership of the program, and I simply don't need what Bandlab is offering. 

Just now, Alan Bachman said:

Thank you all.   I can see where there is a 3 day demo so to speak.  Perhaps that is what is meant by Backstage pass.

Other than the 3 day demo, the only other thing is a subscription - either by month or by year.

So, if I am correct, there is no pass beyond 3 days without bandlab membership.

 

Three days isn't long enough. Some DAWs are handing out 30 to 60 day demos. 

So, this is the "final" public release of Sonar? Or, are we paying to beta the program?

One thing I noticed is that Sonar seems to hijack the audio driver no matter the setting. I can't use Discord while running Sonar. 

On 2/26/2024 at 8:00 AM, pwal³ said:

Why would cakewalk select a newly installed driver over the currently selected driver?
@Noel Borthwickt

The change may have been by Steinberg. I know that there were problems in the past with the GA driver, and Cakewalk specifically addressed it in an update. I had it uninstalled, but looks like it reinstalled after the last Cubase update. 

3 hours ago, Bristol_Jonesey said:

Did you de-select the Steinberg before trying to select the Presonus?

Yes. Even with the Generic ASIO driver unchecked, the Presonus drivers still appeared greyed out.

SOLVED: I uninstalled the Generic ASIO driver, and Cakewalk would completely lock up when booted. I then reinstalled the GA driver. Cakewalk then gave me a pop up on start telling me that the GA driver was incompatible, and gave me the option to WASAPI. I switched to WASAPI, and was then able to go in and switch to ASIO, and it immediately loaded the GA driver. This time, though, I was able to switch off the GA driver and load the Presonus ASIO driver. So, problem solved.

Why this happened? I have zero idea.

I updated to the new version yesterday. Before the update, Cakewalk was set to use the ASIO driver for my Presonus Studio 6/8 interface. I had zero problems.

After the update, I start Cakewalk, and the program is now glitching wildly, and the ASIO driver is set to the Steinberg Generic ASIO driver. I can switch to WASAPI, but I can't get Cakewalk to switch to the Presonus ASIO driver. The Presonus drivers are greyed out in Cakewalk, but work fine in every other program.

I tried deleting AUD.ini, but no change. 

Any suggestions? The only thing updated in the past week was the Cakewalk program itself.

Quality control at NI has gone drastically down hill in the last couple of years. It's not just Cakewalk. There are at least two NI products that don't work properly in Studio One, Maschine and Reaktor 6. It's a problem with not following the VST implementation spec when it comes to NI. Like rolling the dice with them when it comes to every update. 

Still no news?

The Nvidia HD Audio driver will kill your performance. You can't uninstall it because it reinstalls itself. You have to quarantine it in the device manager.

This is why I got rid of my Nvidia cards. Switched to Radeon, and haven't had a graphics related problem since.

Haven't heard anything from the Sonar beta after sending the NDA. Got approved for the Ableton Live 12 beta, so doing that one now.

Thanks for the heads up. Application submitted.

FL Studio and REAPER are two of the most used daws on the planet. 

6 hours ago, Michael Richards said:

That is something else, I have never heard of baking recording tape.

https://www.wendycarlos.com/bake a tape/baketape.html

Oversampling seems to vary from DAW to DAW. It recently came out that Ableton doesn't recognize the internal sampling of plugs. Other DAWs seem to be hit or miss on implementation and recognizing internal sampling.

Given how buggy I found Reaper, especially when it came to MIDI, I have a hard time trusting that it would work perfectly.

YES.

Been a user since Cakewalk Pro Audio 5 in the mid-90's.

Bandlab Cakewalk has the best features and is the most stable of all the CW software I've used.

Haven't been this enamored with the program since Sonar 8.5, which was my all time favorite DAW.

54 minutes ago, Lynn Wilson said:

Sorry to highjack this thread, but I'm having no success downloading CCC from the Cakewalk website using Edge or Chrome in W10.  Any ideas?  I'm trying to reactivate Rapture Pro, Dimension Pro 1.5, and other legacy CW vst's into my new computer.  They're downloaded but in demo mode.

Right-click the download button, and choose "save file as...". Chrome will then give you a button on the download bar at the bottom of the browser saying the file is unsafe, and you have to choose to keep it. Only then will it download. If that doesn't work, let me know and I'll throw it up somewhere so you can grab it.