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[UPDATE 9-Mar-2022: Cakewalk 2022.02 Update 1 (build 28.02.0.039) now available] We're pleased to announce the 2022.02 release! This is primarily a maintenance release that includes fixes for various user reported issues, plus a few enhancements to audio export and track folders. Please note that in order to automatically keep your activation status up to date, Cakewalk will renew your activation status whenever a new version of the application is installed and run for the first time, and when you sign in to BandLab from within Cakewalk. If you have never signed in to BandLab from within Cakewalk, you will be prompted once to sign in. Thanks, The Bakers For new feature details, see New Features. Should you need to revert to the 2021.12 release, you can download the Cakewalk 2021.12 Rollback installer. Update Mar 9 2022: 2022.02 Update 1 (build 28.02.0.039) Bug fixes: Crash when drag/copy Arranger section in empty project Crash inserting Predator3 VST3 if Side Input is enabled Crash with VST3 Synth using sidechain input on playback Last and only articulation map cannot be deleted within Articulation Map Editor Unused articulation maps in Articulation Map Editor aren't being saved Plugins are being restarted after freezing track Folder names incorrect when loading track template with nested folders Pitch Wheel displays value as 0–127 in Piano Roll view "S" shortcut for split not working on MIDI clips Export Audio dialog: Mix and Render settings should not be disabled for Clips/Tracks export Audio Export: ID3 info only working for first track when using Use These Settings for All Bounce to Tracks ignores clip gain after reselecting clip if Display Ghosted Data is disabled Drag/drop operations in the Arranger Inspector stop working after switching from the Tempo Inspector 2022.02 Highlights Enhancements Export Audio dialog: The last used custom export path now persists with the project CTRL+click the Choose Export Location button to reset path to the default Track Folder: You can now optionally specify if track folders should automatically expand when moving a track into them. To do so, click the Track view Options menu and select Expand Folder after Moving to Folder. VST Scan: The following new path has been added to the default scan locations: %LOCALAPPDATA%/Programs/Common/VST3/ This path is now recommended as part of the VST3 specification, in order to facilitate using plugins on systems without Admin rights as well as to support multiple users on the same PC. Key Bindings: Mute [UnMute] all tracks, Solo [UnSolo] all tracks, and Arm [UnArm] all tracks can now be assigned to keyboard shortcuts in Edit > Preferences > Customization - Keyboard Shortcuts Bug fixes Stability: Crash when Paste Special into existing clips using MIDI clips on empty track Crash when saving track template with multiple subfolders Crash when importing track template with invalid folder hierarchy Melodyne crashes after copying clip Export Audio dialog: When doing an Entire Mix export with a selection range, the selection range is being ignored when calculating the estimated file size Track folders that only contain subfolders do not display correctly Export Path changes unexpectedly after save Open Export Folder opens incorrect folder after saving project Track folders: Folder +/- incorrect after drag move to folder Track templates do not save folder hierarchy unless there is a track at each level Track template inserts incorrectly when inserted from track within folder Cannot use shelf tool to drag to max if folder is above current track Insert Instrument missing from folder context menu Drag drop tracks/folders should force a left drag gesture when dragging under a collapsed folder UI: Recording over top of Melodyne clip does not display correct clip in comp track Browser fails to show categories with non-alphanumeric characters What's New link in toast notifications should not close toast Articulation description not shown in Event List view if it's too long Replace Synth should show the synth plug-in UI Delete Track/Bus menu items should be grayed out from Console view context menus during record Arrangement preview should be blocked when recording Misc.: Solo button grouping not working with Simple Instrument Tracks Unable to change outputs for multiple instrument tracks with quick group Multichannel PCM Wave Files fail to import in projects with different sample rates Dragging in a track template without an open project results in corrupt project Mono sends are not retained when reopening project Remove Silence removes clip name "Cannot Read File" error when importing user MIDI files with bad track counts Ripple Edit All does not work as expected with Meter/Key changes Event Inspector can cause clip to move when aborting start time edit Gluing MIDI notes with concurrent controllers selected deletes the controllers MIDI Sysx saved as bank, ignoring settings [REGRESSION] Tab to Notes in Piano Roll view stops working after Set Measure/Beat At Now Delete Hole fails to ripple Tempo Track if not explicitly selected Aux Track not dimmed with dim solo Editing project while waveforms being built causes process to restart Plug-ins: VST3 bus activation sequence in Cakewalk causes side effects in certain JUCE plugins ProChannel PC76 fails to load UI in user project Plug-in automation node not read correctly during loop in user project Initial/Reset VST sandbox scans fail to populate menus and shows zero plug-ins scanned ARA capable plugins fail to work properly when inserted via an FX Rack Latest release notes are here. See prior release notes. Check out all new features released to date.

Run IK Product Manager. New Sounds to download too... What's New in SampleTron v2.0.3 • New "Lost String Quartet" presets and samples added • Native Apple M1 silicon support • Edit Panel in-app keyboard now displays which keys are active in the preset • Fixed an issue where AU/VST/AAX plug-ins did not properly react to tempo changes • Fixed an issue where the Zone LFO trigger mode was not always saved • General reliability improvements

- 3.8 GB of instruments, vocals, drums & loops by ZamplerSounds https://zamplersounds.sellfy.store/p/waves-cr8-sample-pack-by-zamplersounds/ Edit: All samples come in WAV and AIFF format, so you can load them into any sampler of your choice.

2022.02 has now been officially released. Thanks everyone for your feedback!

I don't buy Waves plugins anymore--I just buy WUP. I can get plugins from lots of companies but only Waves sells WUP.

I don't really have a position....if people want to spend two or three times as much to get a half eaten piece of fruit stuck to their equipment then that's up to them. 😉

Hi all - please use this topic to post feedback specific to the 2022.02 release. Release-specific feedback is valuable to us, and consolidating it in a single topic is extremely helpful. We request that discussion in this thread be restricted to issues directly concerning this release, to make it easier for us to assist users. For other topics, kindly use the feature request section or create new posts. Off topic messages will be deleted. Thanks in advance! 2022.02 Release Notes

Pretty much the best Rhodes library I have come across.

Thank God there's nothing I'm interested in! LOL

Run either the BLA or Cakewalk to update Change Log https://www.bandlab.com/products/cakewalk/whats-new

Here ya go Lars.......problem solved. 😁

Adobe is a subscription - you lose access to the program if you stop paying. Waves is not a subscription - you can continue to use the plugin if you do not pay WUP. What Waves sells is a support/maintenance plan - if you have issues or want the newest version, you pay for the year. All of this is standard business practice in the IT world. It is just not common in the plugin world. If Waves were a subscription, you would lose access to use the program/plugin after your year is up. Waves is not a subscription.

I had never heard of Stratus until now but that is going to be the basis of my next song. I wanted to do something like Eno's Music for Airports and this can totally get that vibe without having to do all the individual randomization of notes I was going to do manually.

Nah, already got their Lindell 80, which is a perfect Neve.

I believe he got EXACTLY what he (gave) asked for-A fight. I get frustrated myself with CW, have for 3 decades. But it's ME, it's not the software.

Who needs WUP? I use their plugins just fine as is, most of them expired.

$179 https://www.orangetreesamples.com/products/the-famous-e-electric-piano

Probably better off saving your pennies to upgrade to the full version of Syntronik 2. That is what I'm doing.

This blows my mind ...

The Fall - Spoilt Victorian Child

Know I want it, question is if I can wait for a (hopeful) GroupBuy in about 4-5 months . . . Gotta start collecting Orange Slices . . .

Come to mama!

6 years of resistance is pretty insane in computer terms. At a certain point people are just asking for trouble, and I'd prefer audio software developers not cater to people who clearly aren't taking the security or stability of their computer's seriously. Total waste of resources to cater to these 8 people.

Think of it as a great opportunity to not buy things that you don't really need. 😀 Positive thinking brought to you by Paulo.™

In practical terms, Yes. However, people may inadvertently end up paying for it if they're not paying attention Example: 1) Add the free Soundgrid Studio to your account https://www.waves.com/mixers-racks/soundgrid-studio-emotion-st-8-ch 2) Let the 1-year wup expire 3) Get a quote for Wup'ping the Soundgrid Studio, and it's not free, it's $12 (or, if you are wup'ping other products and you forget to uncheck Soundgrid Studio, you will pay for something that you shouldn't need to) 4) Instead of Wup'ping it, "buy" another free copy instead, and you will get in your account both a license for the latest version, with 1-year free wup, and the old out-of-wup version. Activate your new copy and deactivate your old one and the end result is, in practical terms, the same as if you had Wup'ped the old one That's a quirk of the system but otherwise, I do think that getting a free year of wup and then longer wup as a choice, that's not particularly bad. PA, IK, etc charge for transfer fees. Steinberg, Presonus, iZotope, Native Instruments, Magix, etc. they all release yearly non-free upgrades. Wup is simply a (more confusing) variation on those models.

I have both , cubase is superior in a lot of aspect , but fun , i'm still loving studio one .....

All of these people trying to cancel WUP. I for one, oppose the WUP cancel culture!!! Seriously though, with the downsides of WUP, I have three PCs I use for music and Waves' one computer max unless you buy WUP does make their software more expensive than competitors in the long run -- add the fact that if after a couple years of using a plugin you have a problem with the software and need support you need to buy WUP in order to get that help, it does make buying a Waves plugin a lot more of a difficult decision and I'm not sure about this one. I also want to say that I hope no one actually makes buying decisions based on influencers -- someone using affiliate links is merely a salesperson for the product, so NEVER look at affiliate marketers for unbiased opinions, that's the value that your fellow non-compensated (non-influencers in the marketing sense of the term) musicians in these forums offer for free. There are so many compensated parties shilling Waves plugins it's ridiculous. As a marketing professional with ethics, I've ran a major global affiliate program for a globally recognized brand, but there's a real level of deception to influencers and affiliate marketing that really bothers me. The convoluted rationalizations of influencers are pure BS -- the twisted rationalizations really --these are people shilling products for profit no matter how they try to spin it. They are salespeople, not legit reviewers. If you make money off of people buying the product you're doing a fake review of, you're not really a legitimate reviewer anymore than you would call your local car salesperson a car reviewer. Nope, that salesperson is incredibly biased, regardless of the spin they attempt to put on it. When I search YouTube for info on this product, it's just a sea of shills doing fake reviews and it's so incredibly insincere for these people to not state up front that they are salespeople and not legit reviewers. The glowing praise for the products they're shilling is a device to move you to purchase those products through their affiliate links so that they can get a sales commission. That's the end game. I realize that it's a side hustle, again, I've lead a major brand affiliate program that pays big -- and it's sometimes a main hustle for a small group of influencers -- I just wish these folks weren't so deceptive. I am waiting for more regular -- non-compensated folks -- to give their sincere opinion on this one before even dropping $9.99 USD. I suppose I might try a demo of CR-8 and the Cosmos, but it seems like a bit of a time investment to really get a feel for it.

The Sisters Of Mercy (featuring Ofra Haza) - Temple Of Love

I started using Cakewalk in 1991. I've also worked extensively in Digital Performer and have spent time learning Pro Tools, Reaper and Cubase. Yes, I am biased. My bias is that I want to focus on music composition and production and have the software perform reliably and have it allow me to work the way I work without too many unnecessary keystrokes. I also put some emphasis on aesthetics, and for my eye nothing beats Cakewalk in terms of how it looks on the screen and the incredible flexibility in arranging it to look how you want. I've produced 15 albums with CW, soon to release #16. I've composed many songs, short pieces, 11 symphonies and 4 concertos with CW. The only trouble I had was when it went through an extensive re-vamp some 10 or more years ago. It became unstable and had a lot of bugs so I worked in Digital Performer for about a year and a half. When Gibson dumped CW and Bandlab picked up the pieces everything started to get better again--bugs were getting fixed promptly, new features were being added and so I switched back to CW. Here's what I think is really excellent about this DAW: 1. The event list is color coded. I spend a lot of time using the event list and it really makes it easier on the eyes to be able to choose the color for specific types of events. The font is a reasonable size too, some event lists are too tiny on other DAWS. 2. The instrument section lets you define in detail your instruments, articulations, cc numbers and other functions. When working with large sound libraries this is really useful. 3. The staff view finally got the snap functions corrected and is good for composing in SMN (standard music notation) if you know how. It's weakness is that it doesn't display tied or dotted triplets correctly and never has, but it's no big deal for me because I do all my scores in Sibelius and it's easy to correct them at that point. Because the staff view is laid out more like an arranger's pad than a 8.5x11 sheet of paper, it's much better for larger orchestrated works. Another weakness of the notation editor is it's not possible to export using .xml if you have more than a certain number of tracks. I get better results exporting with .mid (type 1). 4. CW handles VSTs extremely well, I have no problem with playback or recording. For the past couple of years I've had no crashes due to VSTs. 5. Recording and editing audio is where CW really shines in my experience. Recording is simple yet powerful, editing audio, particularly volume envelopes is very easy and precise, very powerful feature made easy to use. 6. Workspaces are fast, there's no delays caused by graphics issues when changing workspaces. I won't name names, but this is not true for other DAWS I've tried. Learning any DAW takes time. You have to really want to learn it well, and spend the time at the computer and reading the manual to get the most out of a DAW. This is true regardless of which one you choose. As far as value is concerned, you can spend many hundreds of dollars for the other DAWs if that's what you want to do, or you can get a DAW that is equal or better for free. Even if Bandlab started charging $500 for CW, to me it's still the best value. Here's one more of my biases: I am a trained classical composer and songwriter. I am not a sound effects person, and my mixing and mastering skills are honed specifically for my music and my music only. Everyone uses their DAW a bit differently depending upon what they are trying to accomplish and what they are best at. So choose carefully, because it does take a lot of time to learn another software program as complex as a DAW. Jerry p.s. After reading more carefully the OPs post, I realize I just wasted time on a guy who has come across as utterly insincere, who has already made up his mind and is looking to vent his frustrations. I thought I was being a "good guy" by helping a beginner! In any event, if someone reads my post and learns something about CW all the better, I doubt it will be the OP who is playing little mind games with us...

I had forgotten about these guys (thomann.com),, single generic EZBass MIdi Pack $20.90

#metoo. I think I had about $15USD in points. I was saving them for the generic 3 SDX bundle.

XO should go all samples too.

Session bass?

@Fleer You piano floozy, you. You're setting a bad example.

For a little bit more you can do all of this stuff with Reaper. And you get much more (a whole DAW). IMO Batch Pro 2 is not worth the price!

Hardly perfect with its limited EQ and less than ideal UI (the frequency "ring" around the gain knob). Don't get me wrong, I think it sounds great and really like it, but I also think it has a number of shortcomings for using it across all types of tracks and the general workflow. They type N also sounds quite a bit different as does the Focusrite (which is also a Neve design). The type N also doesn't have the greatest UI but for different reasons as many of the controls are "backwards" to one might be typically used to.

Ding ding ding ding. We have a winner!

Check your emails! Got a coupon for another $10 off!

Run the Flux Center to update

That was Super Funny Steve ! You made my knight with that one ! 😄 Kenny

Mine just says "LGB" above the settings icon. 😁

Kenny does 👍 He admires their skill at er ........... um ............... 'lip-reading' * * Especially if they bring their own knee-pads ☺️

I thought it might be today - end of the sale and all that... it's in the gate, waiting to go so I suspect it will be next wednesday.

Run ASC Arturia Analog Lab V 5.4.7 Bug fixes: No more issue when renaming a bank No more macro issue in FL Studio MIDI channels are now available in global settings in DAW Pigments Macro 1 state is now properly recalled in Bitwig 4 Vocoder is no longer stuck on tutorial screen when closing and reopening advanced panel Banks are no longer duplicated when renamed Mellotron now properly time stretches user samples on MacOS Arturia Pigments V 3.5.1 Bug fixes: No more issue when renaming a bank No more macro issue in FL Studio MIDI channels are now available in global settings in DAW Macro 1 state is now properly recalled in Bitwig 4 FM is no longer available for Multimode Filter

What's really great about this is that Waves could have made Cosmos and CR8 into one integrated product, but they didn't. That means you look forward to twice as much WUP! How awesome is that???? Double the WUP enjoyment.

I get frustrated very easily with buggy software, and I don't have much patience for software with a steep learning curve. With that being said, when it looked like Cakewalk was going to not be supported anymore, I tried about 6 or 7 of the most popular DAWs. They all are good, but have different features and obviously different interfaces. After trying these DAWs for several weeks, I finally decided to go back to Cakewalk and just use the unsupported software until it didn't work anymore. Fortunately Bandlab came to the rescue and saved Cakewalk and I've been using it ever since. For the uninitiated, when you first open up Cakewalk (or any DAW software) it's going to look a little intimidating. But you DON'T have to learn everything about it all at once. Hell, I still don't know how to use a few features, and I probably never will because I just don't need to use them. But Cakewalk is no less or more difficult than any of the other main DAWs, in fact it's easier than some. I find it hard to believe that someone who works with complicated software, can't get the hang of Cakewalk, especially after watching so many tutorials, as you claimed. And as for it being buggy? That has not been my experience. If something doesn't work the way you expect it, it's a good bet that you're just not using it right, rather than it being a "bug". My suggestion (as others have already said) come back to this forum, change your attitude, and simply ask questions about things you don't understand, or are not working the way you want them to work. But don't take on the entire program all at once. There are some older "Sonar Power" books written by Scott Garrigus from previous versions, that are still quite useful. I suggest getting the most recent version of that book. Looking through my old copy of Sonar X3 Power, the vast majority of it is still relevant and can be a great guide. I like having a book in front of me, as opposed to watching video tutorials. Because I can refer to the book as I'm working in Cakewalk.

I have started with Sonar X1... "this program crash every time I try to do what I want" was true for me that time... But I have payed for it, so I am still (at least partially) there 😏