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sent, thanks for the response _07082025_170007.dmp _07082025_170007.txt

I'm sure the hassle will be different depending on where you purchased from for a replacement . Once I got my replacement I haven't had any issues but it does make me wonder what the underlying issue is that caused the DOA situation. Sounds better to me than the Fender. And has a bit more flexibility especially if you play acoustic through it as well.

You might want to check out the first post here about the new update to v084 which takes care of your issue. :

Are you subscribed or free? The Control bar is dictated by the Workspace, unfortunately the number of Workspaces in the free tier are restricted to one, which I believe you can't change or save.

Check Edit, Preferences, VST Settings Look at the top box. Be sure the paths are correct to your plugins. Then click scan. (SCAN box above here)

@Noel Borthwick ok, I think I managed to get something for you. Here's a simple project containing a bunch of empty tracks, a bunch of copies of the metronome track (to give Sonar something to do) and a prerecorded sine wave track. I'm also attaching a recording (via MRecorder plugin) of me clicking on various tracks (32 sample buffer - see next paragraph) with the sine track soloed. Since this project is not very CPU-demanding the issue is somewhaat reproducible under my usual 128 or 256 samples buffer although not very easily. Going up to 1024 on this sample project makes it completely unreproducible. However, I managed to get a 100% repro rate by setting the buffer to 32 samples. I also tested it under CbB 2019.09 and it can't be reproduced even on the smallest (16 samples) buffer possible. So clearly there's some CbB -> Sonar regression and given that it's project complexity/buffer size dependent it looks to be a CPU load issue related to the initializing/rendering of the mini-ProChannel view. BTW on this project when NOT playing CbB 2019.09 shows 19% audio processing when under 32 samples. Sonar 2025.07 shows 23%. One interesting discovery - in this case (mini-ProChannel view unchecked, but ProChannel displayed in its normal view) the issue does NOT occur. But if you enable the mini-ProChannel view and still keep ProChannel displayed in its normal view the issue DOES return. So it must have something to do with rendering/initializing the mini-ProChannel view underneath. I hope you'll find my root cause investigation useful. glitch-project.zip glitch-2025_07_12 11_18_08.7z

Please, PM if you have a code you don't need.

@Noel Borthwick as I said I wasn't particularly successful reproducing this in a blank project. I'll see if I can find one of mine that is "simple" (although I'm not entirely sure what would constitute a "simple" project?). Otherwise I suppose I can share the one where I first noticed that issue. see post below

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Looking good here too, thanks 👍🏻 Also, just noticed a Sonar update...downloading now... Just one issue with Product Center - it displays the wrong version of Sonar - 094 rather than 084... Also when you hit the refresh button it displays this popup...

Hello, This problem existed since Cakewalk by Bandlab and it's carried over to Cakewalk Sonar. Let's say...The project file is called "MySong" and the file is "MySong.cwp". It's in the folder called "MySong" in drive D:. The "audio" folder is also in that same folder "D:\MySong". After finishing with the work, I saved the whole project as a bundle file (CWB) in another folder called "D:/Bundles". Normally, I would expect to see one "MySong.cwb" file directly in "D:/Bundles". But the "MySong.cwb" is in fact in a folder called "MySong" inside "D:/Bundles". And this "MySong" folder also has a folder called "audio" which is always empty. Did I do something wrong? (I hope I explained it well enough!) Cheers,

Hi there, Thank you for your attention. I use the monitor built in the notebook computer, Windows 11, scaling factor 100 percent, text size 125 percent, resolution 1920x1080 (native). Intel Core i7-9750 CPU @ 2.60 GHz, installed ram 48 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060. (I really don't understand these specifications!) This morning (it's afternoon now here) I was informed of the new version of Cakewalk Sonar, installed it. I checked the lyrics window again and the editing function is now back to normal (the keyboard was working again in that window). I don't know it it's related to the update or not? Problem gone, Thank you very much....

Sou8nds about right. You can always change it back if it doesn't work

It's becoming a problem because of the new Sonar and the end of CbB. Since we have due dates to meet, we decided to temporarily switch back to good old Sonar Platinum (2017). It works fine - at least for our purposes. We make extensive use of ProChannel, which has always worked well. But after installing the trial version of the new Sonar today, the ProChannel in Sonar Platinum suddenly stopped working the way it did just a few hours earlier: in all modules, the 'presets' button no longer work - and we have quite a lot custom presets stored in it. We reinstalled the Platinum Core Plugins, but that didn’t solve anything. Even reinstalling Sonar Platinum itself didn’t help. Is there anyone out there who knows how to fix this to the new Sonar related problem? Thanks for your attention.

It's working now.

I just updated Cakewalk Product Center to the most recent version. When doing so, I had to sign in to BandLab, which I did. But only five minutes later, when starting Sonar, I get a 'Session Expired' toaster. Is the BandLab backend server slowly developing dementia? If the server can't remember my log-on status for five minutes, it sounds pretty alarming. At the same time, I did get a toaster stating there was a Sonar update available. Could it be that you are automatically thrown out whenever there’s an update? If so, is that really necessary? To me, this 'Session Expired' toaster usually occurs several times each day, so it's becoming a nuisance. Persistence is futile?

Great one, loved the guitars! Had flies I'm my teeth after listening!

This is clearly a labor of love and you've done it proud, I'm a fan! The mix is lucious. Your vocals are great!

They increased the minimum order amt to 50, for the first some hours it was a glith and no minimum order was needed

As you say, the actual separation is done by an engine on BandLab's server. It's probably the same stem separation engine as the BandLab DAW's use. Seems like Sonar could someday get whatever mechanism uploads the song and then downloads the separated stems. I did a test of stem separation among various DAW's I have that include the feature and the Next/BandLab did the best job, IIRC. I use stem separation for learning songs, doing my own version, etc.

One of my favorite bands of the 80's, great cover. I love the chewy bass/rhythm guitar sounds, they really nail down the sound. A pristine mix, as always. You have far more patience than I do! Well done!

I just got the Tonex cab today and mine as well is dead on arrival. Was about to compare it with my Fender FR-12. I guess I won't be doing that now. The tonex cab won't power up at all, tried different power connections. Disappointing given the wait and hassle.

Great mix, playing and lyrics,. I love the dynamics of this song. And man, that vocalist can belt out a tune!

But… how?