2025, windows 11, latest Cakewalk, and this still remains

[Will.]

1 hour ago, Glenn Stanton said:

probably not in real life. 😜 

😂😂 

1 hour ago, Glenn Stanton said:

still it would be nice for consistency to leverage parent window UI configuration when possible...

True! Not disregarding this.

[sjoens]

7 hours ago, Glenn Stanton said:

nope. i have the latest version and once you cascade the windows to see the child windows, there are the old style borders 🙂 

  The OP made that clear.  I was referring to scroll bars.

3 differing styles in CbB Track View:  Even with Theme Editor they can't be made to look the same.

[sycle1]

I am also getting the same Archaic window views as Sergio Miranda.

Running Win 11 and latest Sonar.

Why do people hijack threads? just start a new thread its a different subject start a new thread! GRR.

[Noel Borthwick]

On 10/9/2025 at 6:47 PM, Sergio Miranda said:

Maybe this image makes it clearer. (some people click to minimize the application instead of the project window). Yes, Sonar behaves in a very unusual way in this case. I work with Photoshop, and when I minimize an image window, the graphical appearance always remains that of the main application. Of the dozens of applications I work with, only Sonar behaves this way… it’s a pity.
 

Not sure what you are referring to. The title bar is highlit to show the current window. Standard windows MDI behavior.
Also project windows cannot leave the application frame. Also standard behavior.

[Glenn Stanton]

2 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

Not sure what you are referring to. The title bar is highlit to show the current window. Standard windows MDI behavior.
Also project windows cannot leave the application frame. Also standard behavior.

it's more about the style of the child windows - borders and scroll bars - looking line Windows 7 vs matching the parent window.

[sjoens]

Sorry, but no one here was hijacking anything... at least AFAICT.  

[Mr No Name]

first world problem of the year 2025 , goes to ..........................

 

[Promidi]

I just use Winaero Tweaker to make the windows borders as small as I can make them.

Winaero Tweaker can aslo make your scroll bars narrower as well.  However, I would not set your scroll bars to the minimum, as this can hide part of the Transform tool button in the PRV.

[Sergio Miranda]

On 10/11/2025 at 1:37 PM, Noel Borthwick said:

Not sure what you are referring to. The title bar is highlit to show the current window. Standard windows MDI behavior.
Also project windows cannot leave the application frame. Also standard behavior.

The problem here is that the look of the parent window is not the same as the look of the child window, which is light blue like it was in Windows 7 (pay attention the the pink arrows).
If that is really a problem? Of course not, but for the sake of consistency it should be corrected. I’m a graphic designer, and an “inconsistency” like this could never slip through...

 

[Promidi]

So what you are asking for is this: Can the TV window have the option of being made a floating window like most other Sonar windows can.

[Canopus]

2 hours ago, Sergio Miranda said:

The problem here is that the look of the parent window is not the same as the look of the child window, which is light blue like it was in Windows 7 (pay attention the the pink arrows).

As already being mentioned, Sonar is an MDI (Multiple Document Interface) application. Microsoft previously used to have it in Office, where you for instance could tile multiple Word documents into one application window. But at some point, Microsoft lost all interest in MDI. That’s not to say that the MDI framework currently doesn’t work. However, some remains of Windows 7 are still visually present in such applications, most notably the one you’ve mentioned. The problem has been known for years.

I very much doubt that Microsoft will spend time to update the framework, so that later Windows versions will have MDI child windows visually reflect the Windows version on which they are run.

For the Bakers to rewrite Sonar into a non-MDI application, or into a multi-window application that doesn’t make use of the MDI framework, would be a big undertaking indeed.

[Glenn Stanton]

13 hours ago, Canopus said:

For the Bakers to rewrite Sonar into a non-MDI application, or into a multi-window application that doesn’t make use of the MDI framework, would be a big undertaking indeed.

i don't think they need to re-write it, i think they could simply use the window API to set it to match the parent 🙂 the code examples found on a search seem non-destructive enough... my guess, not many people even notice or care about the child window border and scrollbars etc looks. personally, i can't remember ever minimizing a window to see multiples... i typically use the window menu to flip back and forth on the few times i am copying across projects... lol. 

[sjoens]

I occasionally use split windows to drag stuff between projects - and seems older SONAR versions open some projects in child windows - so I've noticed it for ever, but it doesn't bother me as much as the artistic diversity of scroll bars.