2025, windows 11, latest Cakewalk, and this still remains

[Sergio Miranda]

Why this is still the same in Cakewalk? When the window is minimized the UX visuals is that one from “the cavern ages”. Come on guys, it’s about time to solve this and let the “arcaic” window go forever!

Edited 12 hours ago by Sergio Miranda

[Xoo]

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[Sergio Miranda]

This is the visual graphics (window border) you get when you minimize your project window.. . I think it is from old Windows 7 (2009).... it about time to solve this....

[Glenn Stanton]

what version of windows are you running and are you sure your windows isn't using a "i like the look of the old windows" theme? or some variant of that.

this is windows 11 with a minimal borders theme... the gray is my desktop background

Edited 10 hours ago by Glenn Stanton

[Sergio Miranda]

26 minutes ago, Glenn Stanton said:

what version of windows are you running and are you sure your windows isn't using a "i like the look of the old windows" theme? or some variant of that.

this is windows 11 with a minimal borders theme... the gray is my desktop background

Ok that is the layout I also get when creating a anew project, but try to minimize the project window and see what happens!
(see arrow in attached picture).

Edited 10 hours ago by Sergio Miranda

[David Baay]

The screenshot posted by Glenn is a non-Maximized/Restored window as evidenced by the visibility of the dekstop around the window. What you are getting is definitely a quirk of your Windows configuration or some setting you've enabled in properties for the executable or possibly due to interference from some 3rd-party app/utility. I have never seen SONAR/CbB/Sonar's main application window appear modal like that.

[Matthew White]

15 minutes ago, David Baay said:

The screenshot posted by Glenn is a non-Maximized/Restored window as evidenced by the visibility of the dekstop around the window. What you are getting is definitely a quirk of your Windows configuration or some setting you've enabled in properties for the executable or possibly due to interference from some 3rd-party app/utility. I have never seen SONAR/CbB/Sonar's main application window appear modal like that.

Mine looks the same as Sergio's when a project is minimized, what does yours look like if you open a project then click the button as pointed out with the yellow arrow in Sergio's screenshot above?

Edited 9 hours ago by Matthew White

[David Baay]

19 minutes ago, Matthew White said:

what does yours look like if you open a project then click the button as pointed out with the yellow arrow in Sergio's screenshot above?

[Matthew White]

@David Baay Looks like you've clicked the button I've marked with a red arrow, try the button I've marked with a green arrow.

[Glenn Stanton]

closest i can come without messing with my windows settings is the "light" theme. for me, clicking the minimize/maximize button has made no difference to the borders.

Edited 8 hours ago by Glenn Stanton

[David Baay]

36 minutes ago, Matthew White said:

Looks like you've clicked the button I've marked with a red arrow, try the button I've marked with a green arrow.

Okay, yes, I misunderstood the quesiton is about non-Maximized project windows. Basically, Sonar does not allow floating project windows outside the main application window as it does lower-level views, and that's just how non-floating windows are displayed. Right offhand I can't think of any other apps I have that allow having multiple projects/documents open and not maximized so I can't say that what Sonar does is atypical.

[Matthew White]

4 minutes ago, David Baay said:

that's just how non-floating windows are displayed. Right offhand I can't think of any other apps I have that allow having multiple projects/documents open and not maximized so I can't say that what Sonar does is atypical.

Yes, hard to tell as you say without having any other apps to refer to for the same sort of thing but I suspect it is windows responsible for how that window looks rather than Sonar.

[Glenn Stanton]

ok, got it... yes, it would seem like Windows is responsible for floating project windows inside the main app. 

maybe @Noel Borthwick you could provide some insight?

note the borders - and also they both seem to have "active" borders of olde...

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Glenn Stanton

[Sergio Miranda]

Maybe this image makes it clearer. (some people click to minimize the application instead of the project window). Yes, Sonar behaves in a very unusual way in this case. I work with Photoshop, and when I minimize an image window, the graphical appearance always remains that of the main application. Of the dozens of applications I work with, only Sonar behaves this way… it’s a pity.
 

[Glenn Stanton]

another quick search - it may be our devs didn't use the latest win API calls to set the borders on the child windows to match the parent window 🙂 

[Sergio Miranda]

3 hours ago, Matthew White said:

Yes, hard to tell as you say without having any other apps to refer to for the same sort of thing but I suspect it is windows responsible for how that window looks rather than Sonar.

I think that Sonar is responsible for that behaviour... It's hard to believe that engineers on Microsoft would let escape such thing and I think that has been escaping  to engineers on Sonar. I work with a lot of graphic applications and none behaves like that...

[Will.]

Its called to Cascade your window views. Go up to the windows tab and press "Cascade." 

I just checked in photoshop - it looks modern there and PT a Win 8 look on its cascade windows. 😀

Microsoft still use old codes in its framework. If Sonar rely on windows for border themes then yes, Windows will force that theme down on the apps inner frame code seeing that most apps still rely on that same old framework windows was built on. 

Is it really an issue though?