noynekker Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Long time Cakewalk user, and of course I have a lot of Cakewalk nuggets from back in the day installed. Now, when I finally have to upgrade to a newer computer, I'm hoping I won't lose them. In particular, tonight I was playing around with the PH-64 Percussion Strip to fine tune a Kick Drum sound . . . it's actually quite brilliant, with the range of controls and options this thing has, but alas, it is VST2. I'm guessing these came with Sonar Platinum ? (there was also a Tube leveler, and a Vocal Strip from around that same era) Can we even future proof this ? Will it still be available on a brand new Cakewalk install . . . or will it be lost in the old plugin time warp ? Anyways, would love to see a VST3 revival of these, but wonder if they were a 3rd party add on, that cannot be licensed by Cakewalk / BandLab, or if they were developed by Cakewalk. Haven't heard anyone mention them in a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Guitar Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 As far as I can tell those are exclusive to Sonar. The 3rd party plug-in’s usually have the Brand name visible in the GUI. VST2 is a long way from being obsolete. I wouldn’t worry about that just yet. I’ll most certainly be dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noynekker Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 12 minutes ago, Bass Guitar said: As far as I can tell those are exclusive to Sonar. The 3rd party plug-in’s usually have the Brand name visible in the GUI. VST2 is a long way from being obsolete. I wouldn’t worry about that just yet. I’ll most certainly be dead. LOL . . . long may you live, well past when VST2 expires ! I guess I just wonder where the installs for these will come from on a new computer system . . . would we install from the old Cakewalk Command Center, which must be floating somewhere past Pluto by now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 3 hours ago, noynekker said: would we install from the old Cakewalk Command Center Yes. Or log into your Cakewalk account and install from there. Note I said Cakewalk account, not Bandlab. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Guitar Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) Bandlab has been kind enough since they bought all the Cakewalk intellectual property rights, to put all our legacy products we bought from Roland and Gibson on their own servers and make them available. They really have no reason for this other than customer service. If you have lost your legacy account password cakewalk support will help you recover it. The day might come when Bandlab decides to discontinue this service. They even went to the trouble of updating the Command Centre so make sure you get version 1.1.8.1 ( ? I think that’s right?)’ So all legacy products are still available but you would be wise to download everything to a safe place as well as take screenshots of your activation and registration information. I did all that in 2016. I found many of these Sonar X series and Platinum plug ins and instruments all work in other Daw’s. After all, you actually bought and own them. Even the Studio Instrument collection can be used on any Daw. But software from the Platinum era is tied to the Command Centre so the day someone pulls the plug we will be hooped. Isn’t the vocal and drum strip still included with new Sonar? It was on the Excluded list so you had to access it in the plugin manager. Edited October 2 by Bass Guitar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 50 minutes ago, Bass Guitar said: Isn’t the vocal and drum strip still included with new Sonar? It was on the Excluded list so you had to access it in the plugin manager. They were removed from general consumption due to several instability issues, but this might have been resolved now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 29 minutes ago, Bristol_Jonesey said: They were removed from general consumption due to several instability issues FWIW, I used to use Percussion Strip regularly to gate noisy hardware synths, and sometimes for its other functions, and don't recall ever encountering any issues. It still loads (Installed with Platinum) and works fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 11 minutes ago, David Baay said: FWIW, I used to use Percussion Strip regularly to gate noisy hardware synths, and sometimes for its other functions, and don't recall ever encountering any issues. It still loads (Installed with Platinum) and works fine. Yes, I use them all the time as well without issue, but I remember this from a few years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noynekker Posted October 3 Author Share Posted October 3 11 hours ago, Bass Guitar said: They even went to the trouble of updating the Command Centre so make sure you get version 1.1.8.1 ( ? I think that’s right?)’ @Bass Guitar . . . thanks for the great tip ! (Strangely enough, when I launched my Cakewalk Command Center . . . it kept saying I have no internet connection . . . yet here I am online talking to the forum) I just updated to version 1.1.8.1 as you suggested, now it works. I can see PH-64 Percussion Strip was a part of the Boutique FX Suite under Sonar Platinum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Guitar Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 So it would be one of those that absolutely requires the Command centre to authorize. The Command Centre has a Download folder and all the executables will be there after you install them. but back in 2017 during the time Gibson shut us down and we didn’t know what was going to happen a few of us tried to use them independently. Seems to me it doesn’t work. This why we are at the mercy of the kindness of Bandlab now. My current computer is hopefully going to last me well past the days when all that will matter. I find I always move on to different plug ins anyway. I open old projects and replace the olds ones with new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopStarWannabe Posted yesterday at 06:10 PM Share Posted yesterday at 06:10 PM The VX-64 Vocal Strip HAS been revived, is included in the new Cakewalk Sonar and even presented under "New Features" category: http://legacy.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=CakewalkSonar&language=3&help=NewFeatures.34.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noynekker Posted 21 hours ago Author Share Posted 21 hours ago 4 hours ago, PopStarWannabe said: The VX-64 Vocal Strip HAS been revived, is included in the new Cakewalk Sonar and even presented under "New Features" category: http://legacy.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=CakewalkSonar&language=3&help=NewFeatures.34.html Not too sure about that . . . your link goes to the Legacy Cakewalk site. I think VX-64 Vocal Strip can only be downloaded from the older Cakewalk Command center I would be surprised if any new users who just install the new Cakewalk Sonar would be able to get this from the new Cakewalk Product center ? Those "new features" aren't really new now . . . it's only been revived because you have revived the old link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Guitar Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago It’s still hilarious how people do Google searches for anything about Sonar and then they end up with the legacy version. I had to laugh when a year ago someone announced that Sonar was available for purchase and posted a link to Platinum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago The legacy home page posts this disclaimer: You are visiting the legacy Cakewalk website This website contains references to discontinued and unsupported products. If you are a customer of legacy Cakewalk products, you can still access your account here. For the latest product information, please visit us at www.cakewalk.com. So why would I be confused when, for whatever reason , they post "current" Sonar info on the "legacy" site?! The linked page is for build 31.02.0 from 2024. What's the current Sonar build? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azslow3 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago I guess the confusion comes from existence of: "revived" plug-ins: info about VX-64 in Sonar 2024/2025 Revived plug-ins are Sonar/subscription locked VST3 (original are unlocked). VX-64 is not in the list (at least not yet). Original VX-64 plug-ins are from pre-platinum time. They can be (I have not checked recently, but there is no reason that no longer work) installed offline, in case the user has corresponding license and installation files (8.5 - X3). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, azslow3 said: Original VX-64 plug-ins are from pre-platinum time. They can be (I have not checked recently, but there is no reason that no longer work) installed offline, in case the user has corresponding license and installation files (8.5 - X3). Pretty sure they both shipped with Platinum as well. So 8.5 > Splat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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