PH-64 Percussion Strip Revival ?

[noynekker]

Long time Cakewalk user, and of course I have a lot of Cakewalk nuggets from back in the day installed. Now, when I finally have to upgrade to a newer computer, I'm hoping I won't lose them. In particular, tonight I was playing around with the PH-64 Percussion Strip to fine tune a Kick Drum sound . . . it's actually quite brilliant, with the range of controls and options this thing has, but alas, it is VST2.

I'm guessing these came with Sonar Platinum ? (there was also a Tube leveler, and a Vocal Strip from around that same era) Can we even future proof this ? Will it still be available on a brand new Cakewalk install . . . or will it be lost in the old plugin time warp ?

Anyways, would love to see a VST3 revival of these, but wonder if they were a 3rd party add on, that cannot be licensed by Cakewalk / BandLab, or if they were developed by Cakewalk. Haven't heard anyone mention them in a very long time.

[Bass Guitar]

As far as I can tell those are exclusive to Sonar.
 

The 3rd party plug-in’s usually have the Brand name visible in the GUI. 

VST2 is a long way from being obsolete. I wouldn’t worry about that just yet. I’ll most certainly be dead. 

[noynekker]

12 minutes ago, Bass Guitar said:

As far as I can tell those are exclusive to Sonar.
 

The 3rd party plug-in’s usually have the Brand name visible in the GUI. 

VST2 is a long way from being obsolete. I wouldn’t worry about that just yet. I’ll most certainly be dead. 

LOL . . . long may you live, well past when VST2 expires !

I guess I just wonder where the installs for these will come from on a new computer system . . . would we install from the old Cakewalk Command Center, which must be floating somewhere past Pluto by now ?

[Bristol_Jonesey]

3 hours ago, noynekker said:

would we install from the old Cakewalk Command Center

Yes. 

Or log into your Cakewalk account and install from there. Note I said Cakewalk account, not Bandlab.

[Bass Guitar]

Bandlab has been kind enough since they bought all the Cakewalk intellectual property rights, to put all our legacy products we bought from Roland and Gibson on their own servers and make them available. They really have no reason for this other than customer service. 
 

If you have lost your legacy account password cakewalk support will help you recover it. 
 

The day might come when Bandlab decides to discontinue this service. 
They even went to the trouble of updating the Command Centre so make sure you get version 1.1.8.1 ( ? I think that’s right?)’
 

So all legacy products are  still available but you would be wise to download everything to a safe place as well as take screenshots of your activation and registration information. I did all that in 2016. 
 

I found many of these Sonar X series and Platinum plug ins and instruments all work in other Daw’s. After all, you actually bought and own them. 
Even the Studio Instrument collection can be used on any Daw. 
But software from the Platinum era is tied to the Command Centre so the day someone pulls the plug we will be hooped. 

Isn’t the vocal and drum strip still included with new Sonar? It was on the Excluded list so you had to access it in the plugin manager. 

Edited yesterday at 03:43 PM by Bass Guitar

[Bristol_Jonesey]

50 minutes ago, Bass Guitar said:

Isn’t the vocal and drum strip still included with new Sonar? It was on the Excluded list so you had to access it in the plugin manager. 

They were removed from general consumption due to several instability issues, but this might have been resolved now.

[David Baay]

29 minutes ago, Bristol_Jonesey said:

They were removed from general consumption due to several instability issues

FWIW, I used to use Percussion Strip regularly to gate noisy hardware synths, and sometimes for its other functions, and don't recall ever encountering any issues. It still loads (Installed with Platinum) and works fine.

[Bristol_Jonesey]

11 minutes ago, David Baay said:

FWIW, I used to use Percussion Strip regularly to gate noisy hardware synths, and sometimes for its other functions, and don't recall ever encountering any issues. It still loads (Installed with Platinum) and works fine.

Yes, I use them all the time as well without issue, but I remember this from a few years ago.

[noynekker]

11 hours ago, Bass Guitar said:

They even went to the trouble of updating the Command Centre so make sure you get version 1.1.8.1 ( ? I think that’s right?)’
 

@Bass Guitar . . . thanks for the great tip !

(Strangely enough, when I launched my Cakewalk Command Center . . . it kept saying I have no internet connection . . . yet here I am online talking to the forum)

I just updated to version 1.1.8.1 as you suggested, now it works. I can see PH-64 Percussion Strip was a part of the Boutique FX Suite under Sonar Platinum

[Bass Guitar]

So it would be one of those that absolutely requires the Command centre to authorize. 
 

The Command Centre has a Download folder and all the executables will be there after you install them. but back in 2017 during the time Gibson shut us down and we didn’t know what was going to happen a few of us tried to use them independently. Seems to me it doesn’t work. 
This why we are at the mercy of the kindness of Bandlab now. My current computer is hopefully going to last me well past the days when all that will matter. 
I find I always move on to different plug ins anyway. I open old projects and replace the olds ones with new ones.