Put a guitar solo of '80 years "on time" with metronome is possible?

[giant ll]

Hi all. I have a question.

I'm trying to approach the guitar solo of a song "Beat It" Michael Jackson.

The solo is from Van Halen. 

I would like to quantize the solo and i'm not sure if is necessary also for backing track with a metronome speed.

I would like to ear all "perfectly on time".

It would be necessary to study well some "licks" because they are rhytmically complex.. and withouth a metronome sincronization make it a bit more difficult.

How could i work on it, on Bandlab or Sonar? at the moment i have both.

Could anybody help me?

I have separate tracks

1)drum

2)bass

3)voice

4)guitar backing track and solo together

 

I also tried to separate backing for solo in guitar.. but moises withouth paying doesn't permit me. So .. i have all guitars in one track.

Edited Friday at 11:40 AM by giant ll

[Bass Guitar]

This works on most songs that have a steady beat. 

Separate song into stems using Next or Audacity. 

Now drag the drum track to the timeline of Sonar and the Melodyne dialogue will open. 
Choose auto or percussive 

This will automatically create a tempo map. 
You can also do this directly in Melodyne stand alone and export the tempo map as a midi file. 

To have measures line up

Turn on Ripple edit and turn off snap to grid. 
Drag all the tracks until the downbeat is on the start of  measure 2 or 3. 
 

I have done this dozens of times with rock cover songs. 
The metronome should now follow the song. 
 

Stem separation AI has not really gotten sophisticated enough to extract individual parts. 

The solo you are after probably has easily available tab or notation available. Possibly even videos of how to play it. I’d tend to start there first. 

 

Edited 22 hours ago by Bass Guitar

[giant ll]

20 hours ago, Bass Guitar said:

 

Now drag the drum track to the timeline of Sonar and the Melodyne dialogue will open. 
Choose auto or percussive 

This will automatically create a tempo map. 
You can also do this directly in Melodyne stand alone and export the tempo map as a midi file. 
 

 

Hi. I have only the free version of Sonar and Melodyne. Can i make this or it ask me to activate Melodyne?

[giant ll]

20 hours ago, Bass Guitar said:

Stem separation AI has not really gotten sophisticated enough to extract individual parts. 
 

 

Yes. I've separated all except rhythm from solo guitar at the moment.

[giant ll]

21 hours ago, Bass Guitar said:

The solo you are after probably has easily available tab or notation available. Possibly even videos of how to play it. I’d tend to start there first. 

 

The problem is this:

1)there is a part with harmonycs and whammy bar and yes.. i've found it by ear.

2)there is a second part with tapping, here starts.. the problems. I've found different Youtube video tutorial.. but they don't satisfy me, in the sense:

They don't play the part slowly and after put the speed up. I've analyzed different tabs.

 

Everyone write the part in a different way! Lol! Who write quintuplets--- who write sextuplets.. who write seven-- plets... in the same part.

I think there is lot of counfusion in who try to approach this solo.

 

One point for example is the first tapping.
It give perception of " out" because he plays movements(geometrically) of 5 notes.. 15(T) 14 12 10 14 with 6 or more notes per "beat" in a point (beat immaginary i mean). The "tapped" accent moves continuosly...

 

Who try to approach often loose the accent. I think it's a reason because some of them can't play it slowly. They make the easier work.. just tell the notes.. Slowly they play notes in 4.. everytime with same accent... on 1... and after make the cover fastly. I think it's not the better way.

 

The next part.. same problem.

I would like to approach this solo understanding before what he make, and making slowly. After put up the metronome..

 

That's one of the reasons because i'm trying to quantize a bit the song.

 

They just show the notes.. the picking positions.. the licks..

I can find the notes by myself. Is the "timing" part of the secret of this solo i think.. nobody of Youtube Video Lessons i've found analyze it.

That's what  i think.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by giant ll