After download of Sonar 2025 hours of work lost after vst crash

[Bobby Doyle]

Everything was fine until i opened a virtual effect vst which crashed Sonar. Lost hours of work.  Now, when attempting to open this file, there is no playback of audio.  In other words, the transport shows the song playing, but there is no audio. All my other songs in Bandlab and Sonar still work. Now I'm terrified to open ANY songs in Sonar because of this.

[Base 57]

You worked for hours without saving then opened a VST and.... You were surprised.

Well, everyone makes that mistake once.

Cntrl-S is your friend. 

[Bobby Doyle]

Thanks for your unhelpful response, I guess your mother never told you if you have nothing good to say keep your mouth shut? I've been using Cakewalk then Sonar since the 80's and paid through the years for all the upgrades and never had this problem. Even with Cakewalk by Bandlab it's been fine. Suddenly I do a required switchover which is using ALL the same VST's as Cakewalk and it doesn't even work as expected. 

[dougalex]

Did you try opening in safe mode? Or try saving a new extra copy of the problem project file that has no audible playback, and delete all but one track to try to zero in on more troubleshooting.

[dougalex]

I am curious to know what VST may have caused the problem?

(I know this is not helpful for past issues but) For many years (decades) with all my audio and video projects, I use "save as" with incremented version numbers many times during the editing... so if any corruption occurs, it would never set me back that far.

[Bobby Doyle]

Thanks I did that and I still have no output in Sonar or Cakewalk , only on this one song...

[timboalogo]

I feel bad for you, but all isn't lost, I hope.

Can you open another file and does audio play back?

Try opening your file again through Sonar's browse while holding the Shift key down. Say yes to all vsts except the offending one and report back ...

Timbo

[timboalogo]

And did you have auto saves going? they're easy to load and later rename if you can find one that is good.

 

[Bobby Doyle]

It was IK Multimedia TR5 CSR Plate

[Bobby Doyle]

too big of a file

 

 

Edited July 4 by Bobby Doyle
wrong file

[Base 57]

@Bobby Doyle, If you have File Versioning turned on you can Revert back the project to the point where you started today. However, you have lost Hours of work. If you had been saving periodically you could have used file versioning to find the last save point that played properly.

Any wave files you created will still be in the project audio folder. Any other edits are lost in the ether.

Cakewalk products from the DOS days until now have always been prone to crashes the longer you go without saving. And Auto-Save doesn't really help. It does not clear a dirty project. Although it could potentially rescue you from this problem, the project would still have crashed.

Edited July 4 by Base 57
Revert is the proper term

[Xoo]

Double check the bus outputs haven't changed.  If they have, reset them; if they haven't, change them to None, then change them back to what they should be.

[mettelus]

1 hour ago, Xoo said:

Double check the bus outputs haven't changed.  If they have, reset them; if they haven't, change them to None, then change them back to what they should be.

+1 to this, also check your Master Outputs are correct. There was a similar post recently where that was the issue. I am curious now if you run IKM TR5 in stand alone mode to different outputs (i.e., why would inserting a VST(i) cause the Master Outs to change)?

[John Vere]

Crashes are easy to diagnose if it creates a crash dump file. 
The no audio is a common problem ( bug?) with Sonar/Cakewalk where any changes to the audio system can cause the master bus output to set to None.