Melda MMatcher (Beta)

[kricho]

Free for complete bundle owners.

https://www.meldaproduction.com/MMatcher

[User 905133]

Thanks for the heads-up.  Here's a link for others interested in the 17.04 beta changes. 

[mettelus]

I will say there is a plethora of EQ profiles for this guy (a literal truckload of songs over various genres)! Most are for master targets only though (only track targets are guitar focused), but it does make EQ Matching a lightweight task (it automatically adjusts the "Analyze this" to match "Analyze ideal" (or preset), and allows you to copy/paste/save between those two columns).

[User 905133]

1 hour ago, mettelus said:

I will say there is a plethora of EQ profiles for this guy (a literal truckload of songs over various genres)! Most are for master targets only though (only track targets are guitar focused), but it does make EQ Matching a lightweight task (it automatically adjusts the "Analyze this" to match "Analyze ideal" (or preset), and allows you to copy/paste/save between those two columns).

Thanks for this handy bite-sized chunk of info.  I generally don't do anything like this, but your concise mini-review was perfect to focus my hands-on self-exploration. 

Edited March 13 by User 905133
removed an unnecessary descriptor

[topaz]

I keep reading it as MPatcher, ie a melda vst host. 😁

[Technostica]

Melda already have so many products that it was only a matter of time before they released the world's first VST dating app! 😄

[Brian Walton]

10 hours ago, mettelus said:

I will say there is a plethora of EQ profiles for this guy (a literal truckload of songs over various genres)! Most are for master targets only though (only track targets are guitar focused), but it does make EQ Matching a lightweight task (it automatically adjusts the "Analyze this" to match "Analyze ideal" (or preset), and allows you to copy/paste/save between those two columns).

Here is another tidbit of info I determined myself.  The Guitar EQs are from that massive "send us your guitar recordings" project.  There are enough very specific guitars that I submitted in there to be 100% sure this is the case that was a major source of them.

Edited March 14 by Brian Walton

[MrFigg]

3 hours ago, Brian Walton said:

Here is another tidbit of info I determined myself.  The Guitar EQs are from that massive "send us your guitar recordings" project.  There are enough very specific guitars that I submitted in there to be 100% sure this is the case that was a major source of them.

Same here...so many that I ended up getting the Complete Bundle for $10 hahaha. Don't have anything installed :). Is this worth looking at?

[Brian Walton]

8 hours ago, MrFigg said:

Same here...so many that I ended up getting the Complete Bundle for $10 hahaha. Don't have anything installed :). Is this worth looking at?

I haven't really tested it enough to say.  Have other things that have some EQ matching functionally but never use them.  At least this one looks more straightforward potentially.  

I do think seeing and comparing the equipment EQ on my own guitars in there and even comparing the pickup profile in the same guitar is interesting.  

So if you did a ton of them as well, maybe install it to check that out.

That said if you have complete and haven't even installed Turbo reverb, I'd say you are missing out there potentially.

Edited March 14 by Brian Walton

[Starship Krupa]

13 hours ago, Brian Walton said:

There are enough very specific guitars that I submitted in there

I'm not worthy!!.😄

What intrigued me the most to start off with was the headphone correction models included.

9 hours ago, MrFigg said:

I ended up getting the Complete Bundle for $10 hahaha. Don't have anything installed

Really? Don't see anything in that huge collection of processors and instruments that interests you enough to install it?

Well, like Brian said, MTurboReverb is a top-of-the-heap plug-in, the equal of anything I've heard, the only one that can touch the Exponential Phoenix/Nimbus/Stratus algo. The Brichamber model is my favorite.

The Meldway Grand sampled piano (for MSoundFactory) is the best of its type I've heard.

[kitekrazy1]

17 hours ago, Technostica said:

Melda already have so many products that it was only a matter of time before they released the world's first VST dating app! 😄

But people will reject it unless there is some eye candy.

 

[mettelus]

14 hours ago, Brian Walton said:

Here is another tidbit of info I determined myself.  The Guitar EQs are from that massive "send us your guitar recordings" project.  There are enough very specific guitars that I submitted in there to be 100% sure this is the case that was a major source of them.

I assumed this was the case when I saw the list... which reminded me... I also forgot to mention above that the "Analyze" functions can be used on files on disc. This is also a reason the song list is so extensive, since it can just chum through a file for the overall output. In some ways this plugin comes across as a leaner variant of iZotope's Tonal Balance Control (on the mastering side of things).

[MrFigg]

12 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

 

Really? Don't see anything in that huge collection of processors and instruments that interests you enough to install it?

Absolutely, don’t get me wrong. There are some great plugins. I like their rotary and vibrato. Also as both you and Brian say, the reverb is very comprehensive. I think what put mE off was installing the sound factory and the drum machine. It took ages, and loads of space and I couldn’t really work out what was going on with them. Also…doesn’t that installer put stuff on to the hard drive that you haven’t selected? I’m sure I found a whole bunch of stuff once which I didn’t remember installing. Anyway, you are both right. It’s all good stuff. I’ll give it another go. Thanks :)

[Starship Krupa]

1 hour ago, MrFigg said:

I think what put mE off was installing the sound factory and the drum machine. It took ages, and loads of space and I couldn’t really work out what was going on with them.

Yeah, it can be confusing with all of the downloadable soundware. In typical Melda fashion they kinda just toss you in the deep end.

The installer does let you choose whether you want to install the really humongous MDrummer/MSoundFactory add-on libraries. The only ones you must install to get most of the functionality of them are the "Essentials" libraries, which are 3.1GB for MSoundFactory and 1.1GB for MDrummer. Not so bad for virtual instruments of this type. Huge ones like MonasteryGrand, MeldwayGrand, AnalogEmpirePadsStrings, MDrummer Studio and DrumEmpire can be left out, which is a good thing, because they total about 130GB. I have the MeldwayGrand installed because it's the best sampled grand I've heard, and the other MSF libraries because I have room for them, but I don't bother with the MDrummer ones. The new Pads & Strings Analog Empire is really nice if you like huge pads.

MDrummer is an unwieldy beast, so much so that I haven't used it on anything. Someone on their forum characterized it as a DAW in and of itself, and y'know, I don't want or need to learn another DAW just to do fake drums. Vojtech has teased a simplified look for it similar to a traditional drum machine, so you never know.

If you ever get the urge to mess with it, click on QUICK SETUP, then Drum pad mode, which is a button labeled in small print just below the RHYTHM GENERATOR button in the upper right. That will bring up a kit selector and a set of drum pads, it will start to look like a normal drum machine, and you can play the parts of the kit with the usual MIDI controller keys rather than triggering one of the built in loops.

With MSoundFactory, I find the instrument browser to be needlessly obtuse, so I collapse the useless "Categories" pane and click on All and choose from the thumbnail browser. Another tip for MSoundFactory: don't neglect the global presets up at the top. Download the user-created ones, there are hundreds of them and many gems in there. Also, each instrument has its own presets, make sure to check those out.

As for the extra cruft installed with the FX plug-ins, a big part of the way MeldaProduction plug-ins work is shared code. So the installer puts a bunch of libraries in ProgramData and AppData to support that. Not my favorite thing about their products, but it does seem to result in very low resource usage when they're in operation. Whatever. Some people say they avoid the company's products entirely for that reason. Since I, too, have MComplete and have all but a few installed, none of it's redundant.

[MrFigg]

4 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

Yeah, it can be confusing with all of the downloadable soundware. In typical Melda fashion they kinda just toss you in the deep end.

The installer does let you choose whether you want to install the really humongous MDrummer/MSoundFactory add-on libraries. The only ones you must install to get most of the functionality of them are the "Essentials" libraries, which are 3.1GB for MSoundFactory and 1.1GB for MDrummer. Not so bad for virtual instruments of this type. Huge ones like MonasteryGrand, MeldwayGrand, AnalogEmpirePadsStrings, MDrummer Studio and DrumEmpire can be left out, which is a good thing, because they total about 130GB. I have the MeldwayGrand installed because it's the best sampled grand I've heard, and the other MSF libraries because I have room for them, but I don't bother with the MDrummer ones. The new Pads & Strings Analog Empire is really nice if you like huge pads.

MDrummer is an unwieldy beast, so much so that I haven't used it on anything. Someone on their forum characterized it as a DAW in and of itself, and y'know, I don't want or need to learn another DAW just to do fake drums. Vojtech has teased a simplified look for it similar to a traditional drum machine, so you never know.

If you ever get the urge to mess with it, click on QUICK SETUP, then Drum pad mode, which is a button labeled in small print just below the RHYTHM GENERATOR button in the upper right. That will bring up a kit selector and a set of drum pads, it will start to look like a normal drum machine, and you can play the parts of the kit with the usual MIDI controller keys rather than triggering one of the built in loops.

With MSoundFactory, I find the instrument browser to be needlessly obtuse, so I collapse the useless "Categories" pane and click on All and choose from the thumbnail browser. Another tip for MSoundFactory: don't neglect the global presets up at the top. Download the user-created ones, there are hundreds of them and many gems in there. Also, each instrument has its own presets, make sure to check those out.

As for the extra cruft installed with the FX plug-ins, a big part of the way MeldaProduction plug-ins work is shared code. So the installer puts a bunch of libraries in ProgramData and AppData to support that. Not my favorite thing about their products, but it does seem to result in very low resource usage when they're in operation. Whatever. Some people say they avoid the company's products entirely for that reason. Since I, too, have MComplete and have all but a few installed, none of it's redundant.

Thanks for the rundown man. Much appreciated. Useful info. I’ll maybe take another look :):):)