aidan o driscoll Posted Friday at 12:59 PM Share Posted Friday at 12:59 PM (edited) Hi guys, Im really considering this TONEX PEDAL ( at amazon its €350 inc delivery and includes the TONEX MAX software thats €120 to get seperate ). So the pedal is costing you €230 .. so to speak https://www.amazon.co.uk/IK-Multimedia-TONEX-Pedal-learning/dp/B0BV2Z8YYW https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/tonexpedal/?pkey=tonex-pedal I watched this vid reviewing this TONEX Pedal in a live environment. The Guy live DOESNT use an amp anymore. Just out of tonex to DI with XLR to desk and uses in ear monitors. Have a look at his videro here: In the vid he does mention a slight disadvantage that when switching patched there is a very slight delay. As always a good work around is provided in the comments: "Hey man, glad you're loving the Tonex. It's certainly an awesome bit of kit. In the vid you mention a delay when switching presets so wanted to suggest a tip which might help you with that. Out of the box, the Tonex is set up to switch patches on Release of the footswitch, not on Press. This is so you can use A+B or B+C together to switch up and down banks. Personally, I hated the way that felt - I want my patch to switch as soon as I stomp on the footswitch. So if you're happy to do without the option for bank up/down on the unit itself, then you can make your footswitches operate on Press and it feels MUCH more responsive. You said you're only using 3 patches, so it sounds like that'll suit you. But even if you want the option for bank up/down later, you can just plug a cheap 2-button momentary switch into the ext.control jack with a TRS cable and problem solved. Hope that helps, brother!" You have an EXT CONTROL full jack at the back: Edited Friday at 01:54 PM by aidan o driscoll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technostica Posted Friday at 03:48 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:48 PM If you are buying from Amazon UK, it's been £250 a few times in recent months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted Friday at 04:28 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:28 PM Greatest invention of the last 10 years, IMO. But if you have JamPoints it could potentially be cheaper for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluzdog Posted Friday at 04:35 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:35 PM If you have enough Jam points, it can be had for $280 at the IK site. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan o driscoll Posted Friday at 04:48 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 04:48 PM Im in Europe / Ireland. Here we have VAT - Value added tax @23% ( in US I think its similar to sales tax?? ) So w/o jampoints my price is €399 ex VAT or €491 inc vat So amazon UK at €350 inc taxes and delivery so far is cheapest even if I take off €91 jampoints from the IK price of €491 inc vat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted Friday at 07:08 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:08 PM 2 hours ago, aidan o driscoll said: Im in Europe / Ireland. Here we have VAT - Value added tax @23% ( in US I think its similar to sales tax?? ) So w/o jampoints my price is €399 ex VAT or €491 inc vat So amazon UK at €350 inc taxes and delivery so far is cheapest even if I take off €91 jampoints from the IK price of €491 inc vat Similar except sales tax here is more in the 6%-8% depending on the state. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluzdog Posted Sunday at 02:07 AM Share Posted Sunday at 02:07 AM IK is offering a free signature collection when you register a new Tonex pedal this month. https://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/?id=FreeTONEXCollection2025 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted Sunday at 02:16 AM Share Posted Sunday at 02:16 AM 4 minutes ago, bluzdog said: IK is offering a free signature collection when you register a new Tonex pedal this month. https://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/?id=FreeTONEXCollection2025 ODS collection is good. But got that registering my 2nd pedal a while back. Metal Gems was a previous giveaway elsewhere Don't have the pedal one but honestly I have more boutique stuff in physical gear (and have profiled some of it) so was hoping for the Mesa or Satch signatures to register a 3rd pedal. 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan o driscoll Posted Sunday at 11:55 AM Author Share Posted Sunday at 11:55 AM SO - for you to be able to tone model your own gear or others you need a seperate peice of kit called TONEX Capture: https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/tonexcapture/ Another €300 for us in Europe inc vat ( sales tax ) I watched this interesting video about the capture process .. and it sounds like a right pain in the a*rse. Have a look. Anyone tried this yet? And yes there is a PROBLEM in comparison to other - albeit - far dearer solutions like the Kemper Pedal or the quad cortex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted Sunday at 02:54 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:54 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, aidan o driscoll said: SO - for you to be able to tone model your own gear or others you need a seperate peice of kit called TONEX Capture: https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/tonexcapture/ Another €300 for us in Europe inc vat ( sales tax ) I watched this interesting video about the capture process .. and it sounds like a right pain in the a*rse. Have a look. Anyone tried this yet? And yes there is a PROBLEM in comparison to other - albeit - far dearer solutions like the Kemper Pedal or the quad cortex I've made hundreds of captures. If you have one of the IK interfaces with a DI out it is easy though you need a very good graphics card to do advanced captures in a somewhat reasonable time. That capture unit isn't necessary but is helpful for DI captures without a mic and blasting your amp. It is possible to also capture using any reamp box or even a DI with special cables and setup but that does complicate the process. That said, what gear do you have access to that someone else hasn't captured or sounds and feels unique enough that you would use it over someone else's pro capture? My situation is unusual as what drew me to it in the first place is access to arguably the greatest amp ever made, which very few have seen or heard let alone played. So my interest was in capturing that and being able to get that sound at any volume and not have to put wear on the NOS tubes that would cost over $2.5k to replace. Edited Sunday at 02:56 PM by Brian Walton 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan o driscoll Posted Monday at 11:01 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 11:01 AM (edited) @Brian Walton "If you have one of the IK interfaces with a DI out it is easy though you need a very good graphics card to do advanced captures in a somewhat reasonable time. " Can you go into a bit more "dummies Guide" detail on this one? Yes I have a DI. So out of the TONEX, into the DI, then via XLR on DI to Audio I/F??? "That capture unit isn't necessary but is helpful for DI captures without a mic and blasting your amp. " So you can do captures w/o this unit via your amp mic-ed up? What software is used BTW? Edited Monday at 11:04 AM by aidan o driscoll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted Monday at 03:49 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:49 PM 4 hours ago, aidan o driscoll said: @Brian Walton "If you have one of the IK interfaces with a DI out it is easy though you need a very good graphics card to do advanced captures in a somewhat reasonable time. " Can you go into a bit more "dummies Guide" detail on this one? Yes I have a DI. So out of the TONEX, into the DI, then via XLR on DI to Audio I/F??? "That capture unit isn't necessary but is helpful for DI captures without a mic and blasting your amp. " So you can do captures w/o this unit via your amp mic-ed up? What software is used BTW? I haven't done it myself (as I have a normal re-amp option) but at your own risk here is another option I've seen posted I've also seen using a DI with some adapters, but I couldn't find the post/video about it quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted Monday at 04:03 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:03 PM 4 hours ago, aidan o driscoll said: @Brian Walton "If you have one of the IK interfaces with a DI out it is easy though you need a very good graphics card to do advanced captures in a somewhat reasonable time. " Can you go into a bit more "dummies Guide" detail on this one? Yes I have a DI. So out of the TONEX, into the DI, then via XLR on DI to Audio I/F??? "That capture unit isn't necessary but is helpful for DI captures without a mic and blasting your amp. " So you can do captures w/o this unit via your amp mic-ed up? What software is used BTW? Also, the software used is the Tonex software itself and then also the software for your audio interface to route audio depending on the inputs and outputs needed. The process doesn't need a DAW or anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan o driscoll Posted Monday at 04:06 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 04:06 PM (edited) Thanks @Brian Walton .. Still not bought the TONEX pedal box - yet. Most likely an IK sale at some point that will drop the current €350 price for me ( Europe, VAT ) along with jampoints i have I really like the idea of a box like this to a DI / XLR and then to front of house / monitor wedges and no backline. In my last "covers" band we did away with backline and did just what i mentioned. I just had my Boss GT-8 pedal unit out to front of house etc and a feed of my guitar back to a wedge on stage. Less equipment to lug around. Also able to control on stage sound alot better, but then we used backing track drums TBH I dont really need to model much, but would be interested in somehow duplicating the work horse 8 patches I had on the BOSS GT-8. But not a huge "deal breaker" .. only do so if it was reasonable in both effort and cost otherwise find existing Tonex patches that are like the GT ones Edited Monday at 04:20 PM by aidan o driscoll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan o driscoll Posted Monday at 04:49 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 04:49 PM (edited) The alternatives to the Tonex BUT more expensive: The KEMPER PROFILER Player - https://www.kemper-amps.com/products/uk/profiler-player.html - About €600 The Quad Cortex - https://neuraldsp.com/quad-cortex - €1699 OUCH - €1699 - This in a smaller venue and a drunk audience member pours a pint all over it This happened to me and my BOSS GT at a wedding we were playing in Carrigaline Hotel, Carrigaline, Co. Cork IRELAND. This drunk guy bounded up on the stage to talk to the singer to the left of me. Held his pint glass away from himself and poured it right into my GT-8. For such eventuality I did have another older pedal board. Yer man fcks off .. not a bother on him, and no I did not get paid for a new board Edited Monday at 04:54 PM by aidan o driscoll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted Monday at 05:00 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:00 PM 46 minutes ago, aidan o driscoll said: Thanks @Brian Walton .. Still not bought the TONEX pedal box - yet. Most likely an IK sale at some point that will drop the current €350 price for me ( Europe, VAT ) along with jampoints i have I really like the idea of a box like this to a DI / XLR and then to front of house / monitor wedges and no backline. In my last "covers" band we did away with backline and did just what i mentioned. I just had my Boss GT-8 pedal unit out to front of house etc and a feed of my guitar back to a wedge on stage. Less equipment to lug around. Also able to control on stage sound alot better, but then we used backing track drums TBH I dont really need to model much, but would be interested in somehow duplicating the work horse 8 patches I had on the BOSS GT-8. But not a huge "deal breaker" .. only do so if it was reasonable in both effort and cost otherwise find existing Tonex patches that are like the GT ones I wouldn't profile the GT8 as the amp sounds won't be as good what you get with 3rd party profiles. The unit does not profile effects so you would have to dial in the built in. Reverb, modulations, delays manually anyway. I did model an Ethos pedal that was my previous go to FOH solution. It did a great job of that, but once I got a great Two-rock and Dumble clean capture that took it up a notch and thus my original became obsolete. I think you would experience the same related to the GT8 but it may take some searching and setup work. Kemper and QC don't offer better sound quality related to the amp capture tech even though they are more expensive. They do have more effect types though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluzdog Posted Monday at 05:04 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:04 PM 55 minutes ago, aidan o driscoll said: Most likely an IK sale at some point that will drop the current €350 price for me As far as I know IK doesn't allow the use of jam points against a sale price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettelus Posted yesterday at 12:18 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:18 AM 7 hours ago, aidan o driscoll said: This happened to me and my BOSS GT at a wedding we were playing in Carrigaline Hotel, Carrigaline, Co. Cork IRELAND. This drunk guy bounded up on the stage to talk to the singer to the left of me. Held his pint glass away from himself and poured it right into my GT-8. For such eventuality I did have another older pedal board. Yer man fcks off .. not a bother on him, and no I did not get paid for a new board Damn, sorry to hear that one. I have taken to using clear plastic bags with things (mostly to keep the dust off when not in use), but they have saved me from liquids a few times. Just be careful not to "bag" them, per se, rather use as a top cover (not on the bottom too)... stomp switches won't take liquids in, but if the bag is also under the unit anything that leaks by those (those switches will poke through with use) can't be allowed to collect under the unit. The thin bags are cheap, and can cut them apart as needed to top-cover gear. The HELIX units are another alternative (LT/Floor), but also expensive. There was a really good review by someone who gigged with both the HELIX and Kemper several years back (can't find it right now), but the biggest takeaway for me was the Kemper needed extra FX whereas the HELIX did not. I got the Floor model and it has been great, but is also heavier than others (roughly 15 pounds). I had a stroke of dumb luck with mine, as it was on sale for BF that year at the original offering price and included Native for free (turned out this isn't always the case, but Native is simply the software version of it, so I was a little shocked later on that someone getting the hardware wouldn't always get the VST too). Smaller is definitely nicer to carry around, but I need the pedal controller too (which adds unit weight). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberwolf Posted yesterday at 06:30 AM Share Posted yesterday at 06:30 AM (edited) 13 hours ago, aidan o driscoll said: This happened to me and my BOSS GT at a wedding we were playing in Carrigaline Hotel, Carrigaline, Co. Cork IRELAND. This drunk guy bounded up on the stage to talk to the singer to the left of me. Held his pint glass away from himself and poured it right into my GT-8. For such eventuality I did have another older pedal board. Yer man fcks off .. not a bother on him, and no I did not get paid for a new board Long ago when I used to "play" live at scifi conventions, I was in a hotel lobby with my Ensoniq on a standup rack and my heavy Powered Partner speakers on top of it, and some drunk guy from a wedding party at the same hotel knocked into me and one of them hit the floor. From then on it had a buzz with almost anything with low end... I assumed it was the speaker itself, the coil rubbing on the magnet, but one day a couple decades later I had to open it up for something else (i forget what) and whiel it was open it did not have the buzz. :? So for a while after that I just left the screws loose and a piece of foam shoved between the cse halves in one place. Eventaully I found the buzz cause, IIRC it was one of hte screw standoffs or something in the plastic front bezel, and fixed it and now no buzz. Two things came from that for me, both of which I already "knew"--the first was not to assume what a problem is (wish I'd thought to check for the obvious cracked plastics right after it happened; wouldn't have had to live with that buzz for so many years), and the second was to put velcro all over the bottom of the speakers and on the top of hte keybaord so they couldn't slide off. :laugh: (that part I did right away after that convention). I think once beer got splashed on stuff too, but it didn't damage anything, just left an awful smell, so I don't recall the details of that one. Edited yesterday at 06:31 AM by Amberwolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Steinschneider Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago On 3/10/2025 at 1:04 PM, bluzdog said: As far as I know IK doesn't allow the use of jam points against a sale price. I recently bought a Tonex One on the IK website at sale price and used jam points - got it down to $110 US 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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