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Latest windows update marked asio.sys as a risky driver and doesn't load it.

This doesn't seem to be a problem. 

I reinstalled rme drivers and I'm cooking. 

But at 256 buffer at 96k,I now get clicks. 

I have no idea what is causing this. 

Suggestions welcome. 

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Is that actually AsIO?  Looking this up it says this is not an audio drive but Asus Input Output Driver and many people are having issues just recently. 
Another thought is what happens if you change to 48khz I’ve also read about issues on some systems where 96 mHz just doesn’t work well. It’s not the Interface but the computer itself. 

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4 hours ago, Sock Monkey said:

Is that actually AsIO?  Looking this up it says this is not an audio drive but Asus Input Output Driver and many people are having issues just recently. 
Another thought is what happens if you change to 48mHz ? I’ve also read about issues on some systems where 96 mHz just doesn’t work well. It’s not the Interface but the computer itself. 

mHz ?😙

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On 1/31/2025 at 5:24 AM, Gswitz said:

Latest windows update marked asio.sys as a risky driver and doesn't load it.

This doesn't seem to be a problem. 

I reinstalled rme drivers and I'm cooking. 

But at 256 buffer at 96k,I now get clicks. 

I have no idea what is causing this. 

Suggestions welcome. 

Which update? 2H24?

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I disabled my touch screen and that has helped. 

48 or 96 or whatever does not matter. 

I can't run latency mon on this machine without buying it. They have blocked the non pro version for me for a while. 

I will buy it if it gets annoying enough. 

Interestingly, I racked my PC below one of my interfaces, and when I record silence and normalize I can hear my drives spinning. I'm going to try some shielding. 

I am ok in general. It is a bummer to have a set back, but hardly a big deal. 

 

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Shielding did not help the noise in the interface. I tried a cookie tray and some tin foil. If there was a difference it was not detectable. 

On the plus side, I practiced guitar for an hour at 256 without audible issues. 

I can just pull the PC out of the rack. It doesn't have to be in there. Still, it surprises me. There is a full u between the PC and the interface. I've actually made a lot of recordings like this. I never noticed. It is only the audient that picks up the interference. The rme is quiet as a mouse and my first 8 mics go there. 

Thanks to all who responded. 

Also, I have no idea which windows update. Whatever they pushed. I will say the touch screen works like a dream when enabled. Mixing with touch is cool. 

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What differences are there, mechanically, between the RME and the Audient?   

Are they both metal cases all-round? Or plastic?  Or parts of each?

Do they both use external "wallwart" type adapters, or does either have an internal supply that has a direct-connect AC cord?  Or does either use a "brick" that has cords at both ends (one to wall, one to device)?   Does either one use ground pins on their adapters?  Or just two-blade types?

Does the Audient have a built-in microphone? (perhaps for self-room-eq'ing, like an old 80s car amp I have around here by Gerhardt does) 

 

Or does it have some form of automatic level control or compander that automatically turns up the gain on all mic  (etc) inputs when there's no signal so it can hear 'tiny" noises, and just turns that back down when an intended sound is actually being input.? 

 

If the problem you were hearing/seeing in the audio was induced electrical noise, you wouldn't hear actual drive spinning noise--the only way you can get that is an audio pickup of some kind.     If it's the motor drive noise isn't from an audible source but is instead elecrical noise from the motors, it would be still be unusual for it to be picked up by the audio interface; there is a fair bit of shielding in the drive itself to prevent this from getting out, so whatever picks it up would have to be ungrounded/unshielded at some crucial point somewhere, and I wouldn't expect that with an interface. 

It might be possible for a ground-loop to induce noise in a signal.  That might happen if the audient's case is also it's analog ground, *and* the computer's case is also it's ground...maybe.  If that's the case then isolating either one's casing from the rack metal would interrupt that.    

 

If the noise is magnetic-field induced (highly unlikely); copper plate between the two things will help negate that.  

 

Does the problem happen when there are no cables plugged into any of the Audient's audio connections (just powered on and connected to the computer and whatever power supply it has)?

What happens if you run the Audient's power adapter off a different circuit breaker than the computer?   

 

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On 2/5/2025 at 3:02 PM, Gswitz said:

Any ideas for what to put in all these empty Us at the bottom of the rack? 

Computer is moved. Distortion is gone. 

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Get a rack blanking plate - the mesh ones look better IMO:

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11 minutes ago, sjoens said:

I was thinking of a slightly different kind of grill...

. who builds 19" fire places?

Dwarves actually. But good point. Our house we bought a few years ago is from the 60’s so it has a perfectly functional fireplace. Like most of them it must have been use sparingly. A presto log at Christmas perhaps. We installed a high efficiency gas fireplace that more or less heats our house. Heat is a pretty big deal here in the great white north!  
I could fit 2 racks side by side in mine. 
 

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