Cobus Prinsloo Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Firstly, Happy New Year to everyone! Now for the unpleasant bit: my EQ (both in Pro-Q and Ozone) is picking up disconcerting background noise even with no audio playing (see screenshot). At first, I thought it might be coming from my computer, on which my audio interface is standing, but when I moved it away, the noise remained. Does anyone have an idea what this could be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberwolf Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 What other plugins and instruments are on all the tracks and buses feeding that one? Some plugins generate noise as part of their function; it may be so low you can't even hear it but still be able to see it in an analyzer view. Is input echo on for any track? General input noise can also do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Any chance of a listen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 11 hours ago, Amberwolf said: What other plugins and instruments are on all the tracks and buses feeding that one? Some plugins generate noise as part of their function; it may be so low you can't even hear it but still be able to see it in an analyzer view. Is input echo on for any track? General input noise can also do that. Agreed. Disable all the plugins in your project to see if the noise disappears. Some plugins can generate noise even though the project is not playing. Guitar amp plugins and some Waves plugins can be guilty of this. One Waves plugin that springs to mind is Waves H-Delay which has an analogue option (which you should set to ‘off’), but there are others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 A quick way to see if it's a plugin is by illuminating the FX button in the Mix Module. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobus Prinsloo Posted Saturday at 01:29 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 01:29 AM Thank you all for your useful input. I was able to find the culprit - I switched off each Vst one by one in the Synth Rack and was able to pinpoint Analog V! Pity because this soft synth has several nice instruments. But, the noise is not audible, so I guess I can get away with it. Unless this could cause frequency buildups in time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted Saturday at 02:26 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:26 AM 54 minutes ago, Cobus Prinsloo said: Thank you all for your useful input. I was able to find the culprit - I switched off each Vst one by one in the Synth Rack and was able to pinpoint Analog V! Can you pinpoint which preset of which synth in Analog V is causing the noise? If possible, maybe you can edit the preset to eliminate just the noise component of that preset. However, you will need the full version of that specific synth the do the edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberwolf Posted Saturday at 03:24 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:24 AM It may not even be a preset--it might be an option, or a global effect, that is meant to help emulate some analog property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted Saturday at 03:28 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:28 AM 3 minutes ago, Amberwolf said: It may not even be a preset--it might be an option, or a global effect, that is meant to help emulate some analog property. Either way, it might still be editable.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sock Monkey Posted Saturday at 03:42 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:42 AM Why bother. When I run into stuff like this I just delete the synth and move on. There’s so many options these days that one need not fight and waist time with broken junk. I remember that was a synth that I tossed out after demoing it . Can’t remember why but it’s gone! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobus Prinsloo Posted Sunday at 09:02 AM Author Share Posted Sunday at 09:02 AM On 1/4/2025 at 2:42 PM, Sock Monkey said: Why bother. When I run into stuff like this I just delete the synth and move on. True. But in this case, I don't wanna lose it, because it's a good synth with lots of downloadable free sounds from Arturia's website 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Arwood Posted Sunday at 09:11 AM Share Posted Sunday at 09:11 AM (edited) There are a ton of “analog” plugins that do this! Plugin alliance comes to mind. Also the word tube in a plugin will usually have some noise. One thing that will help a little is to drive the input into the plugin at a higher amplitude. Then, lower the output by the same amount. You might be able to lower the noise 3-6-10db. Just experiment with it. Sometimes there is a switch that says analog, noise, or low noise. Edited Sunday at 09:12 AM by Max Arwood Spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted Sunday at 10:18 AM Share Posted Sunday at 10:18 AM 1 hour ago, Cobus Prinsloo said: True. But in this case, I don't wanna lose it, because it's a good synth with lots of downloadable free sounds from Arturia's website Which is why I asked which preset in Analog V is causing the noise.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobus Prinsloo Posted Monday at 05:16 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 05:16 AM 18 hours ago, Promidi said: Which is why I asked which preset in Analog V is causing the noise.... Luckily it looks like only one instrument (strings), and not the whole vst causing the noise. Thanks for the feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted Monday at 05:26 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:26 AM 9 minutes ago, Cobus Prinsloo said: Luckily it looks like only one instrument (strings), and not the whole vst causing the noise. Thanks for the feedback. Do you happen to own the individual Arturia instrument this preset comes from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobus Prinsloo Posted yesterday at 01:21 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 01:21 AM On 1/6/2025 at 4:26 PM, Promidi said: Do you happen to own the individual Arturia instrument this preset comes from? Oh -- I'm afraid I cannot check because I deleted the synth from my project! It had been sitting there unused anyway. But if I remember correctly, it was one of the presets that come with the free download of A Lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettelus Posted yesterday at 04:47 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:47 AM There are a handful of VSTs that process effects (especially inserting noise) even without the transport running, so I am more inclined to think that was an FX on the synth's internal rack rather than the synth itself. iZotope's Vinyl is another such VST to be aware of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobus Prinsloo Posted yesterday at 04:52 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 04:52 AM Thank you -- that is good to know and keep in mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 23 hours ago, Cobus Prinsloo said: I'm afraid I cannot check because I deleted the synth from my project! I don't have Analog Lab V, but have seen other analog-modeling Arturia synths make quiescent noise at a low level - not audible, but visible in meters and analyzers as your screenshot shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago On 1/3/2025 at 4:29 AM, Cobus Prinsloo said: for the unpleasant bit: my EQ (both in Pro-Q and Ozone) is picking up disconcerting background noise Thats by design. These plugins emulate analog gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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