Drum VST instrument free

[giant ll]

Hello all. I'm trying to write the drum in a song by myself, i'm guitarist, because i couldn't find a real drummer who play the song of my project in my City. It is a bit too complicated. So i've written the drum parts, i would have 2 question:

1)Could you tell me wich is the best free VST plugin? I've tryed first time the one with Cakewalk installed, after i tried MT Power Drums, the free and obviously limited version, after i've tryed the BFD 1 free version, obviously  limited also. Now i have a sound that in some points i like.. but.. it continue too me to sound a bit too electronic or faulse in some parts, one in some cymbal, the other in the Snare. I would like to find the more similar to a real drum, obviously if is possible.. and i know that for free is really difficult.

2)i have no idea of how to arrange a coda part.. i'm not drummer. Are there some example of a coda in rock- bit prog.. song?

[sjoens]

To me no one set "does it" so I usually mix and match.  SI Drum Kit, Session Drummer 2 & 3, Addictive Drums2 all came with various versions of Cakewalk.  I've also collected various samples off the web.  Dimension has drum samples & kits too, if you have it.

[giant ll]

Whith my version and i think license i have only SI Drum Kit installed with Cakewalk. I would need to split the midi file if i want to use different VST drums for different pieces of drum.

[Sock Monkey]

I settled on Addictive drums as it came free with Old Sonar I got a free kit with Sonar Pro then when I upgraded the Platinum I got 2 more kits.  I then got a few free add ons so ended up with a pretty good setup all for free. I think otherwise it is pretty expensive. 
 

Session Drums is once again included with Sonar. It just takes forever to dig around and find the right kit pieces. Just like with real drums! And what I did was I have a real snare drum and I sampled it as I needed some brushes and Softer sounds. Session Drums can play Samples. I don’t think people realize that. 
 

The free demo  of Addictive Drums is OK but the cymbals are terrible SI it’s actually only a Kick and Snare. 

I don’t remember liking the MT drums 

Steven Slate I think is better but also there must be reason for why I don’t have it anymore. 
 

You can get a OK sound from SI drums but once again the cymbals are terrible. It would be a better instrument if there was an option to customize the kit pieces. 

[T Boog]

I think the free version of MODO Drums by IK is awesome. However, it started giving me problems. A couple people here told me it was prob a graphics issue. So now Im just using the free Slate drums. The Slate drums are fine but the MODO drums had more effect options and IMO, sounded even better than the Slates(esp the cymbals).

[giant ll]

1 hour ago, T Boog said:

I think the free version of MODO Drums by IK is awesome. However, it started giving me problems. A couple people here told me it was prob a graphics issue. So now Im just using the free Slate drums. The Slate drums are fine but the MODO drums had more effect options and IMO, sounded even better than the Slates(esp the cymbals).

Yes. I'm trying too the SSD free version, just i have a problem: The sound was nice but, when i copy and paste the midi file of the drum, with this plugin i don't ear some cymbals, i've selected different options. Now i try the MODO free version also.

Edited December 14 by giant ll

[David Baay]

21 minutes ago, giant ll said:

Yes. I'm trying too the SSD free version, just i have a problem: The sound was nice but, when i copy and paste the midi file of the drum, with this plugin i don't ear some cymbals, i've selected different options.

Slate probably just has different note mapping. You can add a Drum Map, but for quickie testing you can just drag the cymbal hits up and down in the PRV until you find the right sound.

[giant ll]

 

2 hours ago, David Baay said:

Slate probably just has different note mapping. You can add a Drum Map, but for quickie testing you can just drag the cymbal hits up and down in the PRV until you find the right sound.

The midi map seemed me correct, but if i play on the piano roll, for example Db4, it plays Db2 in the map. This is the first point. I show you with a photo of map, i'm touching Db4 and you see Db2 in the map. I'm not expert in drum map, sorry, i don't know what does it mean.

But the problem is not only this,  for example one mute is the splash choke. All the chokes in the map seem muted or very low and impossible to ear.  Not only the splash. The regulation of his level is the same of splash box and splash edge, but the other 2 have sounds.. the choke not. It's an example, it happen in different note that i ear like mute or too low.

 

Here i tried to  change the splash choke with splash with Crash right edge in the same key: C#2 49, now pressing this key, that in the piano roll il C#4 i ear a sound. It's not the sound that i want but i ear anything... never happened with the other plugin. I've tried lot.

 

 

 

Edited December 14 by giant ll

[Glenn Stanton]

check the inspector MIDI "key" offset. you might need to adjust it to get the corresponding notes to play as some VST use 0, some use 1 or 2 etc.

on the levels - the kit choices (e.g. samples, FX, etc) can impact the levels as does the MIDI velocity.

 

Edited December 14 by Glenn Stanton

[giant ll]

5 hours ago, T Boog said:

I think the free version of MODO Drums by IK is awesome. However, it started giving me problems. A couple people here told me it was prob a graphics issue. So now Im just using the free Slate drums. The Slate drums are fine but the MODO drums had more effect options and IMO, sounded even better than the Slates(esp the cymbals).

How the Splash Choke sounds to you in Slate Drum free edition and how you set his level, if it  work obviously? It would be really interesting to know because  you use the same VSt effect that i've selected. At the moment this is the one that seem to me plays better on my project. You could have a direct experience.

Edited December 14 by giant ll

[giant ll]

1 hour ago, Glenn Stanton said:

check the inspector MIDI "key" offset. you might need to adjust it to get the corresponding notes to play as some VST use 0, some use 1 or 2 etc.

If it use a different parameter of MIDI key i will change it in the next project. I will start directly with this Plugin eventually. I can't change the value now because if i make this i move also other parts that are written, and SSL would read it differently, and now they sounds good, i'm in the end of this project.

[David Baay]

2 hours ago, giant ll said:

The midi map seemed me correct, but if i play on the piano roll, for example Db4, it plays Db2 in the map.

CW's default octave numbering starts at 0, making middle C (Note Number 60) C5. There's no standard in the MIDI spec and different software/hardware manufacturers use different standards. Numbering from -2 so that middle C is C3 is common. You can either just keep it in mind or change CW's 'Base Octave for Pitches' in Preferences > Display to match the VST. This won't change the note number that's sent, just the displayed octave number. The MIDI might still need to be re-mapped or transposed.