Maria P Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 Well, I've just started customizing Sonar with the settings I use in CbB and found out that there is no way to customize or import colours for the Piano Roll view. There is no choice to work with the Background etc. Since I work a lot with midi, I had managed to make it look like Sonar 8.5 because darker schemes trouble my eyes and make my life difficult. Will this feature be added please? I thought there would be more flexibility in new Sonar. Unless I'm missing something in the process and haven't figured it out yet. If so any advice would be appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOK Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 In the Piano Roll View, looks like the midi data color follows the color assigned to the channel - so you can change it there. But no control over the background that I've found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria P Posted December 10 Author Share Posted December 10 Preferences, Customization, Colors, this is what I'm talking about. The fact that there is no option to configure the color layout of the Piano Roll View Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Medina Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 6 hours ago, HOOK said: In the Piano Roll View, looks like the midi data color follows the color assigned to the channel - so you can change it there. But no control over the background that I've found. Video 1.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sock Monkey Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 No and I’m in the same boat. The background choices are impossibly to dark for distinguishing the grid lines. The only option for a lighter background is 2 of them that make everything blindingly bright so either too dark or too bright. They definitely must have better eyesight than me. Or better monitoring? Mine are all 10 years old or more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Medina Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 Also, try the Light Color Scheme: I'm already jumping between color schemes depending on the task - not very intuitive, but... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Medina Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 I also think this is one of the really annoying missing features in the new Sonar. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOK Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 3 hours ago, Andres Medina said: Video 1.mp4 Yeah...as I said. That's setting the color of the channel/track. And honestly, these color themes are so bad that there's only I I can even stand to work in. It's a shame because some of the new ones would be nice if I could only change one or two minor colors. Hopefully they're getting enough done on the performance side that they can soon find time to give back a little user control of these landmarks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria P Posted December 10 Author Share Posted December 10 I don't understand why this is a missing feature. Something that CbB already has and it has nothing to do with the theme editor. It can be found in the preferences inside CbB. It's serious enough for me to regret paying for new Sonar because I'm not able to work like that. People should also have in mind those of us who spend really long hours working and take care of our views and brain for that matter. I've read a lot about the workflow in Sonar, what workflow if basic configurations are not there? Switching between color schemes? Is that a workflow upgrade? And if they only prioritize performance, how many months will it take to fix the issue, therefore how many months of wasted payment if I'm not able to use it? Sorry for my rant but I'm really frustrated. Having the paid version but preferring the free one is not ok 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickddd Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 I used to laugh when I ran my web dev company. You could always tell the ages of the graphic designers. Not by their styles and edgyness or lack thereof. Nope. Rather, by how hard it was for older users to use websites created by the young ones, who haven't experienced yet what happens to eyes as one ages. But they will. Then they will be typing posts like the one I'm typing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 15 hours ago, Maria P said: I don't understand why this is a missing feature. Something that CbB already has and it has nothing to do with the theme editor. It can be found in the preferences inside CbB. It's serious enough for me to regret paying for new Sonar because I'm not able to work like that. People should also have in mind those of us who spend really long hours working and take care of our views and brain for that matter. I've read a lot about the workflow in Sonar, what workflow if basic configurations are not there? Switching between color schemes? Is that a workflow upgrade? And if they only prioritize performance, how many months will it take to fix the issue, therefore how many months of wasted payment if I'm not able to use it? Sorry for my rant but I'm really frustrated. Having the paid version but preferring the free one is not ok It's ALL to do with the Theme Editor for the simple reason that the graphics are drawn in a totally different way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria P Posted December 11 Author Share Posted December 11 59 minutes ago, Bristol_Jonesey said: It's ALL to do with the Theme Editor for the simple reason that the graphics are drawn in a totally different way. Well i get confused because the Theme Editor as an external app was introduced with Cbb. Before that we could customize colors in the preferences inside Sonar. I always think they are two different things. And even so, we still get to change the continuous events. Why is the rest of the list skipped at this point? 1 hour ago, Rickddd said: I used to laugh when I ran my web dev company. You could always tell the ages of the graphic designers. Not by their styles and edgyness or lack thereof. Nope. Rather, by how hard it was for older users to use websites created by the young ones, who haven't experienced yet what happens to eyes as one ages. But they will. Then they will be typing posts like the one I'm typing now. The designers have done an excellent job generally, easy to read menus in certain color schemes, clearer view etc. but they should be tested with editing polyphonic midi tracks or tracks with a lot of midi info for hours, with deadlines over their heads and see if the existing environment would be eye friendly enough Btw my eyes have aged faster than me due to long hours of work on the computer (i think) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB9 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 As I understand it, the Bakers are working on a new Theme Editor that will work with the new Sonar. They changed the type of graphics for something that they believe will provide more longevity or use of this product, but apparently the new type of graphic approach does not work with the prior theme editor. So, they have promised a new theme editor. I have to believe this is on their list, so some patience will be needed. Maybe the Bakers will chime in with more information (or a correction) from what I just stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria P Posted December 11 Author Share Posted December 11 This is on their list but with no specific timeline. The support team responded very fast, they said they will address the issue to the bakers so that they can prioritize enhancements for MIDI usability and customization. I hope they can make that addition soon enough regardless of when the new Theme Editor will be available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 (edited) Actually, Theme Editor isn't needed at all as it accesses the same color source as Preferences>Customization>Colors list and some are even duplicated there. Most /if not all/ colors are stashed in the main exe file and can be offered in Preferences as they were before the X series. I would like to see a more complete and user friendly format to the color list in Preferences and leave Theme Editor to graphics only. Where the two overlap, one can override the other. Edited December 12 by sjoens 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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