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Timothy Connelly

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Bristol_Jonesey

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1 hour ago, Andi Rock said:

Ya that's what doesn't make sense to me...thats literally available for free with all features.  Why is that not enough?

  1. CbB will no longer receive updates apart from essential maintenance
  2. Sonar has had many updates since its release and is steadily improving way beyond what CbB is/was offering
  3. CbB will eventually fall foul of incompatible OS updates, Sonar will not
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On 11/16/2024 at 1:28 AM, Timothy Connelly said:

I am a longtime Cakewalk/ Sonar/ CbB guy. I am about to get a new machine, I need to clarify something about the New Sonar.

So, buying the subscription to Bandlab (Membership), gets you access to Cakewalk Sonar? Any additional expense, or am I "all in" at $150/year?

It's not some "here, buy Bandlab membership, and that will 'give you permission' to buy Sonar additionally" deal, is it?

I'm at the perfect place to do this, I just have to know whether to shop other DAWs. $150 is pretty reasonable, but it gets less so if there are multiples of that.

Nope, no extra costs for Sonar with the normal exception of 3rd party plugins that's it, i.e. $150 per year subscription fee. Plus you get a lot more for the same price you would normally pay for SONAR Platinum upgrade in the ways of unlimited song project storage, Bandlab Studio which is an automatable 32 track mix editor with MANY FX plugins, fully customizable plugin chains, MIDI synths, pattern sequencer, a sampler, publishing services on Bandlab.com, Spotify.com, ReverbNation.com too, not too shabby mastering and what nots like 1000'S of free loops and samples if you are interested in that kind of stuff..

AND there's plenty of CONTESTS you can enter to win CASH and valuable PRIZES, get exposure, submit your BEST MUSIC get SIGNED to a RECORDING CONTRACT... Meet like-minded musicians throughout Planet Earth to share and COLLABORATE with.

Not exactly the best synths in the Bandlab.com cloud mix editor, and latency can be a problem, depending on cellular signal strength, but the Sampler is FUN because I can all to EASILY record any sounds anywhere, ANYTIME with my iPhone and make & edit my own samples in one easy fell swoop with the Bandlab app installed on my iPhone using internal mics, as opposed to doing it the more complicated and harder 'import'/'export' way with Steinberg Cubasis with requires an IK iRig Pro and external mic and all that stuff.

Also Bandlab.com automation doesn't support MCU (Mackie MIDI control) or HUI DAW controllers. But automation can be mapped in standard MIDI to knobs and faders on a MIDI Keyboard controller per mixing session. Bandlab does NOT store MIDI maps, nor will it record more than one track at a time.

You can "Import" 32 audio/MIDI tracks from any DAW, and Bulk DUMP all tracks from Sonar at once I highly advise Bulk Dumping AUDIO from Sonar's BUSS/stem mixes ONLY as Bandlab is limited to 32 tracks and it's MIDI synths aren't all that great editing is abysmal to nonexistent.

Only extra fees would be for "BOOSTING" which is essentially shelling out a few Pesos for Media BLITZING Song Promotion which pretty much buys you THOUSANDS of PLAYS @ very reasonable price points (whether your tune is worthy of it or not.) your song WILL GET A LOT OF ATTENTION! 😉

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Andi Rock

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3 hours ago, Bristol_Jonesey said:
  1. CbB will no longer receive updates apart from essential maintenance
  2. Sonar has had many updates since its release and is steadily improving way beyond what CbB is/was offering
  3. CbB will eventually fall foul of incompatible OS updates, Sonar will not

Yes, that's how it goes when you get something for free...but you're a user that wants to stick with a stable version and not upgrade you have that option.  

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3 hours ago, Steev said:

AND there's plenty of CONTESTS you can enter to win CASH and valuable PRIZES, get exposure, submit your BEST MUSIC get SIGNED to a RECORDING CONTRACT... Meet like-minded musicians throughout Planet Earth to share and COLLABORATE with.

Now I know what kept me from subscribing!  Can I only opt for CASH and PRIZES?  Ohh, another question please.  How much CASH?

3 hours ago, Andi Rock said:
  • CbB will no longer receive updates apart from essential maintenance
  • Sonar has had many updates since its release and is steadily improving way beyond what CbB is/was offering
  • CbB will eventually fall foul of incompatible OS updates, Sonar will not

#1 kind of contradicts #3 , but OK objectional.

But most important question you should ask is, if Bandlab will deactivate your Cakewalk license at some point indefinitely, making it inoperable  if you decide to go with Cakewalk instead of Sonar. It is a very gray area that no one who works for Bandlab answered so far.  Not here, not when asked directly through "proper" company emails.

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Andi Rock

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1 hour ago, Misha said:

Now I know what kept me from subscribing!  Can I only opt for CASH and PRIZES?  Ohh, another question please.  How much CASH?

#1 kind of contradicts #3 , but OK objectional.

But most important question you should ask is, if Bandlab will deactivate your Cakewalk license at some point indefinitely, making it inoperable  if you decide to go with Cakewalk instead of Sonar. It is a very gray area that no one who works for Bandlab answered so far.  Not here, not when asked directly through "proper" company emails.

It's not a gray area. Pay for the software if you want to keep using it and keep getting updates.  It's a subscription model. How have they not been clear about that?

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Andi Rock

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18 minutes ago, Misha said:

Andi,  

You compiled 2 answers into one?  One potato + One apple =  Two tomatoes?  Re-read.  

I am talking about Cakewalk. CbB - CAKEWALK BY BANDLAB. 

Okay and you're arguing that you should have eternal access to free software with no catch?  You've already gotten what four to five years of free use of CdB yes?  Are you not thankful for that?

I just don't get it I don't understand why you guys want to die on that hill.  The software is more than worth the asking price, and it's completely understandable to use a subscription model because you get constant updates and it makes everything more cohesive.  

And I started on sonar 3 back in about 2002 or thereabouts, and I have paid for it many times over. And I'm poor but m still happy as a clam to pay the asking price. 

Anyway you do what you do and I do what I do. I don't even know why I spent this much time on this thread. My bad.  

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58 minutes ago, Andi Rock said:

I don't even know why I spent this much time on this thread. My bad.

Wait!... Don't leave yet! This subject requires much, much, much more analyzation.

We're only on page 2 for God's sake! It usually takes 30 to 40 pages before we can make an educated decision. Just hang in there at least 28 more pages. Then if u wanna bow out, no one will think less of u for it. 

So where were we?

...Oh yeah, Sonar's subscription model. I'm not convinced yet. Do u really think it's worth it?    🤣

 

 

 

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Andi,

"Anyway you do what you do and I do what I do." That's a wonderful idea.  My post was meant for Timothy (The person who started this thread)  and whoever else might have similar questions. Definitely not a happy camper such as yourself.   

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Just a couple of points.

OS updates shut it down, interestingly Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 can be installed and will run fine on Windows 11. Pro Audio 9 was released in 1999.

Once again we find one user who keeps banging the same drum even though he gets the same answer. He/she/it/they/them, one must cover all bases, seems to think by repeating the same rhetoric the answer is going to change. Consequently apologies @Timothy Connelly but your thread has been hijacked by people who are not answering your question, but are stirring the mud pond again for their own agenda with no interest in giving you a meaningful reply.

Rabbit hole achieved, I hope you are satisfied. 

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