David Rossi Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 (edited) Putting the finishing touches on this mix before sending to my mastering guy. Anyone wanna pick it apart / lend tweaks? I can take it… (besides the heavy breathing on the acoustic track lol, this I’m aware of) Gone / The Underhills https://theunderhills.bandcamp.com/track/gone-2024 Edited October 31 by David Rossi 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSband Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 It's a nice track, like the song. The acoustic guitar sounds OK until the rest of the band comes in, then I find it distracting. It makes midrange strumming tones that fight with everything else. There is a lot of mid content in the song that makes the individual instruments not stand out. This is something I always wrestle with, making space for each thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSband Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Listen to @mark skinner's song "Dark Spanish Night" , he is really good at having a lot of busy parts going on but you can hear everything so clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB01 Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Good song, love the ending - very Gretchen Peters - mix needs a bit more work as things are getting buried in there (especially the vocal). This is definitely worth the investment however and has the makings of a great track. Great vocals too btw. 👍 Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Rossi Posted October 29 Author Share Posted October 29 5 hours ago, KSband said: It's a nice track, like the song. The acoustic guitar sounds OK until the rest of the band comes in, then I find it distracting. It makes midrange strumming tones that fight with everything else. There is a lot of mid content in the song that makes the individual instruments not stand out. This is something I always wrestle with, making space for each thing. Omg yeah, the acoustic is on my main hit list for the weekend. The tone is actually quite good, it’s the pickup of the right hand strum that needs to be tamed, eq’d, and ducked. It is somewhat harsh in that it is all you hear once everyone comes in. The mic was a bit too close to the source and my right hand wasn’t quite as clean as I needed… thanks for the listen and comments! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Rossi Posted October 29 Author Share Posted October 29 1 hour ago, AndyB01 said: Good song, love the ending - very Gretchen Peters - mix needs a bit more work as things are getting buried in there (especially the vocal). This is definitely worth the investment however and has the makings of a great track. Great vocals too btw. 👍 Andy Thanks Andy, Definitely dig the building energy of it and I’m just trying to get everything to fit in there to do it justice. Thanks for the listen and comments… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark skinner Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Hey David , first impressions .. I quickly hit pause and got my good headphones knowing this was a Fantastic song. I love what you are doing on the acoustic and the energy of it. Vocals were Great with plenty of punch but still very smooth. I think you've written and performed this one Very well. If I were mixing this .. I would very slightly pan the snare a little further to the right if you can . I Really liked the acoustic guitar in the intro section . The tone was Great being on the edge of almoste "brittle" . I would just do an automated EQ reduction on the highs and reduce the volume a little when the other instruments come in. I thought the outro section with the acoustic sounded nice as it is . With my headphones the lead vocals also seemed to need some highs reduced. They were on the edge of needing some de-essing. That .. coupled with the acoustic got a little peircing. I don't know for sure what I would do to the lead guitar in the break but , I think it needs "something". I would for sure pan it a little more towards center and add a little more reverb to give it some more depth. Just my honest opinions after a couple of listens. Super Fantastic song and capture . I absolutely Love it .. mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Most has probably been said, but it is hot for my taste, the snare sounds like it has had all the life squashed out of it. But if you are happy with it then... As noted above the mix needs some work, apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Rossi Posted October 30 Author Share Posted October 30 (edited) 18 hours ago, mark skinner said: Hey David , first impressions .. I quickly hit pause and got my good headphones knowing this was a Fantastic song. I love what you are doing on the acoustic and the energy of it. Vocals were Great with plenty of punch but still very smooth. I think you've written and performed this one Very well. If I were mixing this .. I would very slightly pan the snare a little further to the right if you can . I Really liked the acoustic guitar in the intro section . The tone was Great being on the edge of almoste "brittle" . I would just do an automated EQ reduction on the highs and reduce the volume a little when the other instruments come in. I thought the outro section with the acoustic sounded nice as it is . With my headphones the lead vocals also seemed to need some highs reduced. They were on the edge of needing some de-essing. That .. coupled with the acoustic got a little peircing. I don't know for sure what I would do to the lead guitar in the break but , I think it needs "something". I would for sure pan it a little more towards center and add a little more reverb to give it some more depth. Just my honest opinions after a couple of listens. Super Fantastic song and capture . I absolutely Love it .. mark Hey Mark, thanks for the detailed listen / game plan. I will definitely try to engage a few of these tweaks when I roll back to this tonight. 4 hours ago, Wookiee said: Most has probably been said, but it is hot for my taste, the snare sounds like it has had all the life squashed out of it. But if you are happy with it then... As noted above the mix needs some work, apologies. Haha no apologies man. I post this stuff to get it over the finish line. The drums are drums on demand so it’s really only a stereo field I get to work with: the compression is in the product. Only other compression is an SSL G on the master bus and it’s only like 2 to 4db of compression. There’s a slight L2 to push the volume for car listening until I can get it mastered but it’s not actually doing much. Thanks for the listen!! Edited October 30 by David Rossi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeEarCandy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 I like the song. Vocals sounds real good. No really much I can add in the way of constructive advice to guide you any further than what has already been proposed in the comments above. Well done so far. Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bajan Blue Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Hi David Is there anyway you can post this somewhere other than drop Box - there was a massive security issue with Drop Box here some years ago, and we all deleted it and it comes up as suspect these days! Would love to listen to this Chjers Nigel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Rossi Posted October 31 Author Share Posted October 31 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bajan Blue said: Hi David Is there anyway you can post this somewhere other than drop Box - there was a massive security issue with Drop Box here some years ago, and we all deleted it and it comes up as suspect these days! Would love to listen to this Chjers Nigel Sure Nigel… Posted it on our band camp temporarily which isn’t ideal because BC streaming is like mp3 quality but I did enable wav download https://theunderhills.bandcamp.com/track/gone-2024 Made some tweaks last night: * enabled a de-esser on the acoustic from the drums in until the outro to duck / reduce from 6.5k and above the harsh percussive strum. Seems to have tamed it… *rolled high end off acoustic and lead vox a little *cross delay on chorus harmonies to make them wash a little more * still need to increase vocal level on second half of verses as they seem to bury a little once the second rhythm guitar comes in * reduced overall loudness of track Edited October 31 by David Rossi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 (edited) 16 hours ago, FreeEarCandy said: like the song. Vocals sounds real good. +1 listening on iPhone bluetoothed to my hearing aids (not ideal!) so hard to give advice (the snare is hot). well written, fine vocal, HTH. 👍👍👏 t not a “camp” member so can’t help there, did I mention I liked the vocal?😎 Edited October 31 by DeeringAmps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bajan Blue Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 Hi David Thanks for posting the Bandcamp link Really enjoyed this, a very well written track and some great playing As tom said, the vocals are really really good Great stuff Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Rossi Posted November 5 Author Share Posted November 5 On 11/3/2024 at 7:04 AM, Bajan Blue said: Hi David Thanks for posting the Bandcamp link Really enjoyed this, a very well written track and some great playing As tom said, the vocals are really really good Great stuff Nigel On 10/31/2024 at 11:38 AM, DeeringAmps said: +1 listening on iPhone bluetoothed to my hearing aids (not ideal!) so hard to give advice (the snare is hot). well written, fine vocal, HTH. 👍👍👏 t not a “camp” member so can’t help there, did I mention I liked the vocal?😎 Thanks guys. Tbh, singing with northeast fall allergies and consistent post nasal drip is so damn challenging. My take count was way higher than normal with this tune. Nice to know I’m fooling a few people 😃 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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