Larry Shelby Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 All-in-one solution for spatial audio production With this multichannel update, the dearVR PRO 3D audio panner supports 26 multichannel output formats. Besides binaural and ambisonic outputs, the software can encode multi-channel speaker setups from 5.1, 7.1.4 up to 13.1, for immersive music, game and post-production for Dolby Atmos, DTS:X or MPEG-H formats. Existing dearVR PRO User? FREE Update! If you already own the dearVR PRO plugin, download the new installer from the Installation Manager and activate it for free. Done! Alternatively, buy this plugin individually? You can still purchase a single, perpetual license for this plugin. List Price $349 Your Intro Price - Just $149* https://plugin-alliance.acemlnb.com/lt.php?s=a5d02ef1a880555a40a57152d8788569&i=476A517A6A4675 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Got my 'Loyalty' voucher yesterday. Look what it had to say: NEW: Minimum Order Value* Your $50 voucher will require a minimum order of $75 - this means that your net shopping cart subtotal has to be $75 or more before you can successfully apply the voucher. *We saw a lot of people trading our vouchers on the internet in the past. Some users were even using multiple vouchers, often resulting in multiple free orders in a single month for some accounts. Unfortunately, this is not how we intended these vouchers to be used, so we decided to react. Wondering what the minimum spending is on other vouchers? IOW, is the $25 requirement $50? and the $75 requirement $100? Hey I understand they gotta make a profit. But it seems to me they could have handled this a lot better. IOW, it's not my fault they let the voucher system get abused. I didn't abuse it. The one or two times I did use the voucher to get free plugins I ended up buying something else that same month, so they didn't really loose out. To see this in my email just doesn't sit well with me. : ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Grem said: Got my 'Loyalty' voucher yesterday. Look what it had to say: NEW: Minimum Order Value* Your $50 voucher will require a minimum order of $75 - this means that your net shopping cart subtotal has to be $75 or more before you can successfully apply the voucher. *We saw a lot of people trading our vouchers on the internet in the past. Some users were even using multiple vouchers, often resulting in multiple free orders in a single month for some accounts. Unfortunately, this is not how we intended these vouchers to be used, so we decided to react. Wondering what the minimum spending is on other vouchers? IOW, is the $25 requirement $50? and the $75 requirement $100? Hey I understand they gotta make a profit. But it seems to me they could have handled this a lot better. IOW, it's not my fault they let the voucher system get abused. I didn't abuse it. The one or two times I did use the voucher to get free plugins I ended up buying something else that same month, so they didn't really loose out. To see this in my email just doesn't sit well with me. : ( $32 is the minimum for the $25 Voucher Grem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) So if my math is correct, the bigger the voucher, the higher the minimum order. So the more I spend, the more I am penalized? SMFH I stand by what I said earlier: "They have lost it!" Edited November 6, 2019 by Grem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) @Grem if you'd like to take part in our angry mob please join us over here bring a torch and pitchfork Edited November 6, 2019 by simon 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Jones Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 5 hours ago, simon said: @Grem if you'd like to take part in our angry mob please join us over here bring a torch and pitchfork Lol why I gotta be the face of this angry mob? That pic makes it look like we've totally snapped over this. Yeah I get the $25 voucher where the minimum purchase is now $32 to use it. This Dirk dude should at least have made the minimum $29 - or heck even $39, as $32 just comes off as totally disingenuous since nothing on that site is ever $32. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy1 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I'm done with them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Grem said: *We saw a lot of people trading our vouchers on the internet in the past. Some users were even using multiple vouchers, often resulting in multiple free orders in a single month for some accounts. Unfortunately, this is not how we intended these vouchers to be used, so we decided to react. If vouchers being swapped is the thing that's offensive, the proper reaction would be to lock it to individual user accounts. Introducing a minimum spend doesn't actually make sense: people could still swap them and get a discount if, e.g. they buy something with the voucher at the beginning of the month, and then see something else they want to buy at the end of the month. In other words: it ok if you break our rules, if you pay for the 'privilege' It's funny: I've previously gotten some free plugins from them using their vouchers - they would have acted as a reminder that PA do some other plugins I might want to buy one day, but if I must spend something to get a discount, I'm less inclined to do so (I was already less inclined when they upped their prices with the intro of subscriptions). Other sites, e.g. Time+Space, let you use their loyalty points to get free plugins if you have enough of them. Edited November 7, 2019 by antler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 .....and oddly they haven't stopped people swapping voucher - they've just applied a minimum spend limit. The 'explanations' were just nonsense IMO I think their motivation is obvious - they are desperate to get people onto the subscription model. We should ask the 'burn them' mob over to this thread too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy1 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I'm done with them. I agree to a point what they needed to do with vouchers. How much of that stuff you got free or for under $10 is nothing more than hard drive filler? Most of the SPL and Unfiltered is gimmick stuff. How many plugins have been updated? So much older stuff on version 1. I think they should go boutique all the way and go subscription. They could probably survive on fanboyz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 @antler I agree with you. They handled this all wrong. I ain't getting no subscription from them. I'll get it from somebody else before I get it from them. And me getting on a plugin subscription ain't happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 back on topic for a bit ? To update this plugin i was told I needed to download the update from the PA website and run it manually. Seems quite a failing if the PA installation manager if it can't do this ? All the other companies installation managers seem to flag if updates are available and install them. Come to think of it I don't know if I've ever seen a PA plugin update before ? is this the first or am I just missing lots of them ? .....that's made me even more angry ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Yes PA does up date thier stuff. But not a lot. And to update to a new version requires a reinstall. You can reinstall over the old one with no problem. And since the last time I used thier manager it did not let me know there was an updated version of any plugin. I happen to be in my account and noticed an updated version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 4 hours ago, simon said: back on topic for a bit ? Come to think of it I don't know if I've ever seen a PA plugin update before ? is this the first or am I just missing lots of them ? .....that's made me even more angry ? they must have heard me at PA HQ https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/news/article/items/maintenance-update-02.19.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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