azslow3 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 OSARA is a REAPER add-on, it has automatic installer but can be installed manually by copy one dll into expected directory (and loading shortcuts afterward). Works with any screen reader, under Windows and OSX. Sonar 8.5 was so popular because of CakeTalking (payed software) and JSonar (free). From what I know, developers was from the community, I mean not sighted developers with target users as testers, but other way around. Sonar X1 had completely new interface, Windows 8 also breaks several things. So, that direction is stalled long time ago. OSARA was born as a demand to move on somewhere. Since REAPER is the only other DAW with open API (in practice with way more possibilities then Cakewalk API), the choice of the DAW was simple. The idea was to make it free and open source, also the developer (AKA the owner) of REAPER is aware the community exists (clear from the REAPER's change-logs). All that is "alive", I mean there is active REAPER developer, active OSARA developer, active community "manager" and several sighted helpers. Most people have moved away from Sonar 8.5 (from what I know, including JSonar developer). I mean, I am not sending Annabelle down the rabbit hole, I just try to convince to take the route other have already taken (and not regret that). Cakewalk had intention to make CbB accessible. May be some day there will be yet another attempt. There are some people which in fact use Sonar X3/CbB, after creating the project in 8.5. With XTouch Compact and NI Keyboard that kind of works. But I can't recommend that, at least at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettelus Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Thank you. Your insight into the history of things is always insightful. The open API point I have taken notice to over the past several years. It seems that programs with open API/scripting functionality tend to have a slew of community members actively contributing to the application development, and some of the work those folks have done on their own time is truly impressive. It is always a good sign when apps have menu links to a user add-ons/scripts repository that has been developed by the community (I tend to search for this specifically anymore). Cakewalk has always had people doing similar in the background, but never quite embraced them in that manner; those tools are often littered about in the forums and easy to miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 Someone mentioned Patchwork by Blue Cat Audio. I wonder, if I were to try this program, would I be able to save any VST3 presets as .fxb so they would be backwards compatible with earlier versions of VST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stanton Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 @msmcleod could a VST3 preset be used with a VST2 plugin? perhaps if the controls for each are effectively the same but i'm not use if it's using an internal id for a given control or just the control name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, Glenn Stanton said: @msmcleod could a VST3 preset be used with a VST2 plugin? perhaps if the controls for each are effectively the same but i'm not use if it's using an internal id for a given control or just the control name. I'm pretty sure you can't. The file format is different. However, if you're hosting a VST3 inside a VST2 plugin like Patchwork, then saving the Patchwork state as a preset should also save the state of all VST3 plugins its hosting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, pwal³ said: *common in Common in what, I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr No Name Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 from Bitflipper post above ? Another possible avenue might be a VST3 wrapper, a VST2 plugin the serves as a VST3 host. I found this one, from the people who make the Sequoia DAW: https://www.xlutop.com/buzz/zip/vst3shell_v1.3.1.zip That's a direct link to the plugin. Here's a link to the KVR page: https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=565924 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr No Name Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, Mr No Name said: from Bitflipper post above ? Another possible avenue might be a VST3 wrapper, a VST2 plugin the serves as a VST3 host. I found this one, from the people who make the Sequoia DAW: https://www.xlutop.com/buzz/zip/vst3shell_v1.3.1.zip That's a direct link to the plugin. Here's a link to the KVR page: https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=565924 don't click on the xlutop link, my antivirus says it contains a trojan , I should have checked it first, apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 3 hours ago, Mr No Name said: don't click on the xlutop link, my antivirus says it contains a trojan , I should have checked it first, apologies I know the feeling! I accidentally put a virus on my music machine back in 2016, when I downloaded and installed what I thought was a genuine version of VS Community, a Microsoft Visual Studio program for coding. Boy do I regret doing that, and I'm still mad at myself for that mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr No Name Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 6 hours ago, Annabelle said: I know the feeling! I accidentally put a virus on my music machine back in 2016, when I downloaded and installed what I thought was a genuine version of VS Community, a Microsoft Visual Studio program for coding. Boy do I regret doing that, and I'm still mad at myself for that mistake! Yes, you have to be careful of these things, there is apparently a tool from kushview that works, free also, I have no idea how it is used, looks quite complex and utilitarian, https://github.com/kushview/Element/releases/tag/0.41.1 and no viruses attached. from this thread https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=560297&start=30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 On 3/17/2024 at 12:20 AM, Mr No Name said: Yes, you have to be careful of these things, there is apparently a tool from kushview that works, free also, I have no idea how it is used, looks quite complex and utilitarian, https://github.com/kushview/Element/releases/tag/0.41.1 and no viruses attached. from this thread https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=560297&start=30 I just now tried installing that software you mentioned from Kushview, and I have bad news. It freezes my machine to where I have to restart it over and over again! So I ended up uninstalling it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 I wonder if there's a VST3 wrapper that won't freeze my machine every time I try to start it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 5 hours ago, pwal³ said: tried the blue cat offering?https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/Product_PatchWork/ /goodluck I'm trying the Blue Cat's Patchwork Demo version, and it seems it's not as accessible for screenreaders as I thought it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, pwal³ said: ddmf also have something, called meta-plugin https://ddmf.eu/metaplugin-chainer-vst-au-rtas-aax-wrapper/ /goodluck I'm hoping this particular software's demo version doesn't have crazy limitations like "Bypassing once a minute" or even "a burst of noise every few seconds". That's what I've gotten with demo versions of plugins I've worked with in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 11 hours ago, pwal³ said: "the demo version (settings not saved, but further fully functional)" Now that I'm trying it, I find that Metaplugin is not exactly screenreader friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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