So I'm playing with the new Sonar

[sjoens]

CV strips are wider but display less text?  Due to bigger icons and dropdown arrows maybe.

MASTE  vs.  MASTER 1:

Sonar

CbB

Edited March 8, 2024 by sjoens

[Jacques Boileau]

8 hours ago, sjoens said:

CV strips are wider but display less text?  Due to bigger icons and dropdown arrows maybe.

MASTE  vs.  MASTER 1:

CbB

Sonar

The labeling of your screen shots is reversed, no?

[user905133]

To me the Output Icon  in Sonar [ O ] is much easier to read than the [ o ] in CbB. 

[Marcos Kleine]

Trying to activate , logged on BandLab account, nothing happens, getting the same message to activate over and over ....damn it . The only way is doing that "backstage pass" process?

 

[DeeringAmps]

1 minute ago, Marcos Kleine said:

The only way is doing that "backstage pass" process?

At this point evidently yes. That’s what I did…

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[Glenn Stanton]

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The only way is doing that "backstage pass" process?

dang it! ? now i have to decide which one to cancel - Slate? Max? Hulu? Netflix?  arrrgggh impossible choices! ?

Edited March 8, 2024 by Glenn Stanton

[Canopus]

59 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

To me the Output Icon  in Sonar [ O ] is much easier to read than the [ o ] in CbB. 

Sure, but the problem here is that the larger icons in Sonar occupies more space. Simply changing the colour of the background square from gray to white would have increased legitibility, while the space available for text wouldn't have decreased. Also, the padding has increased for some unknown reason, making the space available for text even smaller. And to top it all off, the font size has increased, which is the third reason so little space is left for the actual text.

[Marcos Kleine]

13 minutes ago, DeeringAmps said:

At this point evidently yes. That’s what I did…

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Thanks!

[Jacques Boileau]

22 minutes ago, Marcos Kleine said:

Trying to activate , logged on BandLab account, nothing happens, getting the same message to activate over and over ....damn it . The only way is doing that "backstage pass" process?

 

If it is just to take a look, you can load an existing project, play a little with it. You just can't save any changes though. But at least you'll have some idea of what is coming. You'll be nagged that it is not activated once in a while, but that can be dismiss.

[user905133]

1 hour ago, User 905133 said:

To me the Output Icon  in Sonar [ O ] is much easier to read than the [ o ] in CbB.

13 minutes ago, Canopus said:

Sure, but the problem here is that the larger icons in Sonar occupies more space. Simply changing the colour of the background square from gray to white would have increased legitibility, while the space available for text wouldn't have decreased. Also, the padding has increased for some unknown reason, making the space available for text even smaller. And to top it all off, the font size has increased, which is the third reason so little space is left for the actual text.

I was making a simple comment.  I wasn't commenting on the visibility of the other components.  I was not debating. I envision possible solutions that meet the needs of multiple users. I was not contradicting anything that anyone else said so far as I can see.

"Sure, but . . . ." only serves to disagree with my comment.  

 

 

[Marcos Kleine]

2 minutes ago, Jacques Boileau said:

If it is just to take a look, you can load an existing project, play a little with it. You just can't save any changes though. But at least you'll have some idea of what is coming. You'll be nagged that it is not activated once in a while, but that can be dismiss.

Is what i am doing hehe, i dont find any voice do Midi option, is better have a look around, thanks for the response!

[user905133]

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Edited March 8, 2024 by User 905133

[John Vere]

6 minutes ago, Marcos Kleine said:

Is what i am doing hehe, i dont find any voice do Midi option, is better have a look around, thanks for the response!

You need Melodyne installed. Then depending on what version you own any audio track can be dragged to a VST instrument or midi track and it will be converted to midi data. 
Basic versions only do single monophonic conversion. Good for vocals, Bass and lead Guitar lines. 
The top 2 versions can create Polyphonic data as in guitar chords. 
This is something any DAW that has ARA can do. 

[Marcos Kleine]

2 minutes ago, John Vere said:

You need Melodyne installed. Then depending on what version you own any audio track can be dragged to a VST instrument or midi track and it will be converted to midi data. 
Basic versions only do single monophonic conversion. Good for vocals, Bass and lead Guitar lines. 
The top 2 versions can create Polyphonic data as in guitar chords. 
This is something any DAW that has ARA can do. 

Yes i do have melodyne, what i meant was on the bandlab app convert the vocal do Midi as the tutorial on backstage pass. But i will wait for the oficial release hehe but thanks anyway for the response.

[Canopus]

5 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

I thought you were one of the open-minded people. 

I am. However, I don't think this thread should be littered with personal reflections. The S/N ratio can deteriorate rapidly. That's why I didn't post anything in reply to your strange thumbs down, and only gave you a thumbs down in reply. But as you keep going on; the point of my message was to say that designing a user interface is always  a balance between different important goals. Of course a bigger icon is easier to read that a small icon. Nobody can deny that. But the effect such changes have on other factors - in this case the number of characters that actually fit inside the text box - must be taken into account. Hence, I felt a need to agree, and disagree.

How you could give me a thumbs down for that, I still can't understand. But hey.

[Will.]

11 hours ago, sjoens said:

 

CbB

Sonar

Top one is Sonar

Bottom is CbB. 

How I know this?  In Sonar the strips border dividers are thinner than in CbB. 

[David Baay]

I’m sure everyone here has only the desire and intent to help the Bakers make Sonar as good as it can be.

[Craig Anderton]

3 hours ago, John Vere said:

Basic versions only do single monophonic conversion. Good for vocals, Bass and lead Guitar lines. 

Actually, you can generate polyphonic MIDI guitar parts with Melodyne Essential by dragging the audio into a MIDI track and choosing Polyphonic Decay for the algorithm. 

What you can't do with Essential is edit polyphonic audio prior to converting it into data. Also note that pitch bends don't translate. But hey, it works!

 

[sjoens]

8 hours ago, Jacques Boileau said:

The labeling of your screen shots is reversed, no?

Yes. ?

[sjoens]

8 hours ago, User 905133 said:

To me the Output Icon  in Sonar [ O ] is much easier to read than the [ o ] in CbB. 

True. But that can be fixed W/O shortening the name.