Szilárd Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) https://www.ableton.com/en/live/all-new-features/ https://www.musicradar.com/news/ableton-live-12-need-to-know Edited November 14, 2023 by Szilárd 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blanc Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Interesting. Looks like a lot of workflow upgrades rather than groundbraking innovations. Suite upgrade is 199 but now with 20% off for 159 and you pay when 12 is released. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niky Serrano Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, Nick Blanc said: Interesting. Looks like a lot of workflow upgrades rather than groundbraking innovations. Suite upgrade is 199 but now with 20% off for 159 and you pay when 12 is released. Thank you To add more info: https://www.ableton.com/en/shop/live-12/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satya Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Here's a first look by Sonicstate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioschmaudio Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Nice. Like I'm-broke-and-can't-afford-it-but-really-would-like-to-have-it nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niky Serrano Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) Well... I have seen a system requirement that has broken my heart There are many people using macOS 10.15 (Catalina) with Intel processors Very disappointed with this... I think that we (macOS 10.15 users) should have to continue with Ableton Live 11 Suite To purchase a new computer only to use Ableton Live 12 is not an option,... for me and for other people Edited November 14, 2023 by Niky Serrano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan o driscoll Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I have Live 11 Standard so my upgrade to 12 standard is €87 ( €109 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technostica Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 They usually offer the same deal via 3rd parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, Technostica said: They usually offer the same deal via 3rd parties. isn't that only lite/intro upgrades ? I didn't think you could buy version > version upgrades anywhere except direct fom ableton ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technostica Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, topaz said: isn't that only lite/intro upgrades ? I didn't think you could buy version > version upgrades anywhere except direct fom ableton ? Yes, the options are more limited via third parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Penguin Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Upgrades, cross-grades, grade-grades . . . Is an "upgrade" from Standard to Suite, or 10 to 11, or both? I have Live 10 Suite, so . . . "Upgrade to Live 11 Suite, Original price USD 229, now USD 183 Save 20% on Live 11 now and get Live 12 for free" Is ProTools still doing the annual "1-Year Software Updates + Support Plan"? I thought I'd read somewhere that they were discontinuing doing that (wishful thinking?) Trying to see how much $$$ I will have available for BF Toontrack if I do both Ableton and PT . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecode 101 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 This looks really interesting.. may be my next move.. as its seems Steinberg are hosing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxiousmofo Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nick Blanc said: Interesting. Looks like a lot of workflow upgrades rather than groundbraking innovations. Suite upgrade is 199 but now with 20% off for 159 and you pay when 12 is released. Odd; my Suite upgrade from 11 is $183.00. Pretty disappointing that Ableton has now apparently decided that none of its Live releases will make it to a .5 anymore. This one seems even more feature-underwhelming than 11 but I'll likely do it anyway. Edited November 14, 2023 by Anxiousmofo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niky Serrano Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 [YouTube Video] New in Ableton Live 12: Roar - Extremely Versatile Audio Effect for Colouration and Saturation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin H Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Anxiousmofo said: Odd; my Suite upgrade from 11 is $183.00. $183 is 20% off $229 so wondering if it was some math wizardly to get down to $159 hehhe i also see $183 Edited November 14, 2023 by kevin H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yan Filiatrault Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 42 minutes ago, kevin H said: $183 is 20% off $229 so wondering if it was some math wizardly to get down to $159 hehhe i also see $183 The wizardry is sadly currency rates. 159 is in Euros 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blanc Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 FL Studio WAS seen as the king of the pianoroll. And with the new stem seperation stuff everyone thought they would be king overall. But those crazy bastards actually did it. I have yet to work with it myself, but it seems they overthrew FL studio's pianoroll reign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blanc Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I'm getting a bit excited. Perhaps. I hope so. They have a new CC control device. And I REALLY hope that would work over USB MIDI with a selectable channel. Because that would mean I can modulate every synth I have that accepts midi cc messages. And I hate the term gamechanger as it is often misused. But that would be an absolute gamechanger for me and my hardware jams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy1 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Anxiousmofo said: Odd; my Suite upgrade from 11 is $183.00. Pretty disappointing that Ableton has now apparently decided that none of its Live releases will make it to a .5 anymore. This one seems even more feature-underwhelming than 11 but I'll likely do it anyway. Wondering if someone would see past the shiny and new. They are still one of the few DAWs left that still have two machine limit. Comparing Live to other DAWs is apples and oranges. The GUI is basically designed for laptops. I'm a fan of Live but at some point it's getting harder to bite when I've bought 2 licenses. Multiple DAWs can be an expensive hobby. But I'm sure I'll end up with 2 licenses of Suite again. Edited November 14, 2023 by kitekrazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy1 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Bummer Sweetwater no longer carries Live. I use to get licenses with their credit deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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