Ableton 12 to be released in early 2024

[Szilárd]

https://www.ableton.com/en/live/all-new-features/

https://www.musicradar.com/news/ableton-live-12-need-to-know

Edited November 14, 2023 by Szilárd

[Nick Blanc]

Interesting. Looks like a lot of workflow upgrades rather than groundbraking innovations.

Suite upgrade is 199 but now with 20% off for 159 and you pay when 12 is released.

[Niky Serrano]

30 minutes ago, Nick Blanc said:

Interesting. Looks like a lot of workflow upgrades rather than groundbraking innovations.

Suite upgrade is 199 but now with 20% off for 159 and you pay when 12 is released.

Thank you
To add  more info:
https://www.ableton.com/en/shop/live-12/

[satya]

Here's a first look by Sonicstate

 

 

[audioschmaudio]

Nice. Like I'm-broke-and-can't-afford-it-but-really-would-like-to-have-it nice.

[Niky Serrano]

Well... I have seen a system requirement that has broken my heart 

There are many people using macOS 10.15 (Catalina) with Intel processors

Very disappointed with this... I think that we (macOS 10.15 users) should have to continue with Ableton Live 11 Suite

To purchase a new computer only to use Ableton Live 12 is not an option,... for me and for other people

Edited November 14, 2023 by Niky Serrano

[aidan o driscoll]

I have Live 11 Standard so my upgrade to 12 standard is €87 ( €109 )

[Technostica]

They usually offer the same deal via 3rd parties.

[topaz]

16 minutes ago, Technostica said:

They usually offer the same deal via 3rd parties.

isn't that only lite/intro upgrades ? I didn't think you could buy version > version upgrades anywhere except direct fom ableton ? 

[Technostica]

4 minutes ago, topaz said:

isn't that only lite/intro upgrades ? I didn't think you could buy version > version upgrades anywhere except direct fom ableton ? 

Yes, the options are more limited via third parties.

[Bad Penguin]

Upgrades, cross-grades, grade-grades . . .

Is an "upgrade" from Standard to Suite, or 10 to 11, or both?

I have Live 10 Suite, so . . .

"Upgrade to Live 11 Suite, Original price USD 229, now USD 183 Save 20% on Live 11 now and get Live 12 for free"

Is ProTools still doing the annual "1-Year Software Updates + Support Plan"? I thought I'd read somewhere that they were discontinuing doing that (wishful thinking?)

Trying to see how much $$$ I will have available for BF Toontrack if I do both Ableton and PT . . .

[telecode 101]

This looks really interesting.. may be my next move.. as its seems Steinberg are hosing it

[Anxiousmofo]

3 hours ago, Nick Blanc said:

Interesting. Looks like a lot of workflow upgrades rather than groundbraking innovations.

Suite upgrade is 199 but now with 20% off for 159 and you pay when 12 is released.

Odd; my Suite upgrade from 11 is $183.00. 
 

Pretty disappointing that Ableton has now apparently decided that none of its Live releases will make it to a .5 anymore.  This one seems even more feature-underwhelming than 11 but I'll likely do it anyway. 

Edited November 14, 2023 by Anxiousmofo

[Niky Serrano]

[YouTube Video]

New in Ableton Live 12: Roar - Extremely Versatile Audio Effect for Colouration and Saturation

 

[kevin H]

2 hours ago, Anxiousmofo said:

Odd; my Suite upgrade from 11 is $183.00. 

$183 is 20% off $229 so wondering if it was some math wizardly to get down to $159 hehhe

i also see $183

Edited November 14, 2023 by kevin H

[Yan Filiatrault]

42 minutes ago, kevin H said:

$183 is 20% off $229 so wondering if it was some math wizardly to get down to $159 hehhe

i also see $183

The wizardry is sadly currency rates. 159 is in Euros

[Nick Blanc]

FL Studio WAS seen as the king of the pianoroll. And with the new stem seperation stuff everyone thought they would be king overall. But those crazy bastards actually did it. I have yet to work with it myself, but it seems they overthrew FL studio's pianoroll reign.

 

[Nick Blanc]

I'm getting a bit excited. Perhaps. I hope so. They have a new CC control device. And I REALLY hope that would work over USB MIDI with a selectable channel. Because that would mean I can modulate every synth I have that accepts midi cc messages.

And I hate the term gamechanger as it is often misused. But that would be an absolute gamechanger for me and my hardware jams.

[kitekrazy]

9 hours ago, Anxiousmofo said:

Odd; my Suite upgrade from 11 is $183.00. 
 

Pretty disappointing that Ableton has now apparently decided that none of its Live releases will make it to a .5 anymore.  This one seems even more feature-underwhelming than 11 but I'll likely do it anyway. 

Wondering if someone would see past the shiny and new.   They are still one of the few DAWs left that still have two machine limit.    Comparing Live to other DAWs is apples and oranges.  The GUI is basically designed for laptops. I'm a fan of Live but at some point it's getting harder to bite when I've bought 2 licenses.   Multiple DAWs can be an expensive hobby.

 But I'm sure I'll end up with 2 licenses of Suite again. 

Edited November 14, 2023 by kitekrazy

[kitekrazy]

Bummer Sweetwater no longer carries Live.  I use to get licenses with their credit deals.