abacab Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) Well you know what, even though Cakewalk ported some features for P5 over into Sonar, they apparently lost some of the vital "magic sauce" in the process. P5 V2 was a product ahead of it's time, and it even appears that Bitwig Studio "borrowed" the in-line "Groove Matrix" GUI design, which Sonar and CbB both lack. Yes, Sonar and CbB have a matrix view, but is located in another panel. Bitwig Studio has a similar GUI design for their in-line "Clip Launcher Panel". That company was started by some former Ableton Live developers. For those not familiar, Live has had a Clip Launcher as far back as I can remember, but it is a completely separate view from the arrangement view. Bitwig Studio, and even Acoustica Mixcraft have an in-line launcher now, that lines up with their track, or arranger view. As far as I know, Cakewalk P5 was the first to offer this feature. Edited May 16, 2021 by abacab 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agincourtdb Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) On 5/15/2021 at 8:07 PM, Kevin Perry said: OK, so try this... Same file Search for DriverType= Set its value to 2 (ASIO) Haha, ok so, this is embarrassing, but in my attempt to get it to work I deleted p5aud.ini, expecting it to recreate it, but apparently it doesn't get that far. What's worse: uninstalling and reinstalling doesn't create one either. Can anyone attach a copy? Edit: it was still in the Recycle Bin! restored, going to edit now. Edited May 20, 2021 by Agincourtdb I am a big dummy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agincourtdb Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 On 5/15/2021 at 8:07 PM, Kevin Perry said: OK, so try this... Same file Search for DriverType= Set its value to 2 (ASIO) Nope, no effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agincourtdb Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 OK. I got it working. It was Bluetooth. There was an entry for my Bluetooth headphones in the audio devices list, in Device Manager. Once I disabled *THAT*, p5 successfully profiled and loaded up. I sincerely want to thank everyone who weighed in. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Cowan Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Hi, all. I've owned Project 5 versions 1 and 2 since the mid 2000s, just had a major crash, and after getting the program reinstalled up to version 2.0 I just now realized that I don't have the 2.5 and 2.5.1 update files (just the original CDs). I found links at the old (original) Cakewalk site, but they're broken. My personal download page there doesn't show the two updates either. I'm hoping someone can send those two files my way so that I can fully get back into one of my all-time favorite programs!! Thanks in advance for any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dan Cowan said: I found links at the old (original) Cakewalk site, but they're broken. I just tested with Edge in Win10. The links are OK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse g Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Crickets, Crickets, Crickets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/20090605/Project5-Version-2-5-Update https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/20090606/Project5-Version-2-5-1-Update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Cowan Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 15 hours ago, scook said: I just tested with Edge in Win10. The links are OK. I'll try Edge. Didn't think of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/19/2021 at 10:06 PM, Agincourtdb said: OK. I got it working. It was Bluetooth. There was an entry for my Bluetooth headphones in the audio devices list, in Device Manager. Once I disabled *THAT*, p5 successfully profiled and loaded up. I sincerely want to thank everyone who weighed in. Seriously. Thank you! Had the same problem. That worked for me tool! Oh the nostalgia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 OK, since this thread just got revived, I'll go ahead and toss this out there... P5 is a 32-bit only program, so you are limited to 32-bit plugins. Plus it will never be able to handle large memory plugins like a 64-bit host can. And it runs on a single thread only. But this product was ahead of its time, and it's really a shame that it never got updated to modern technical standards... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 40 minutes ago, abacab said: you are limited to 32-bit plugins I believe jBridge may be used to load 64bit plug-ins into 32bit hosts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 I never used P5, but the thing that chaps Superabbit's bunny tail is that its ability to create arp patterns for use in Sonar didn't get rolled into Sonar. I love using arps, and it would be nice to be able to roll my own patterns for use in CbB without having to use a 3rd-party plug-in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Would be a neat feature for Cakewalk. Using Project5's Pattern Creation Tools https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/200301/Using-Project5s-Pattern-Creation-Tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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