JoseC Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Just wondering whether it might be feasible to install it again and remembering old times...or making arpeggiator patterns, that IIRC should work with CbB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Vogel Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Well there’s something worth trying. I haven’t given P5 a thought in quite a while. Thanks for the re-awakening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I never understood the fascination some had with P5, but wasn't it basically combined with/built in to Sonar when 8 became 8.5? I thought that was why it was called 8.5 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, paulo said: I never understood the fascination some had with P5, but wasn't it basically combined with/built in to Sonar when 8 became 8.5? I thought that was why it was called 8.5 ? Ah No! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywtelejazz Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) On 9/12/2019 at 7:09 AM, JoseC said: Just wondering whether it might be feasible to install it again and remembering old times...or making arpeggiator patterns, that IIRC should work with CbB I have Project 5 installed on the Win 10 computer I am writing this post on . Before this lap top became a Win 10 64 OS I had P 5 on it in Win 8. My experiences have been good running P 5 on the newer Windows OS 's .That may be due to when I was deepest into P5 I was only using a 32 bit XP P 4 w an M Audio 1010lt. Now I run a Focusrite 2i4 . P5 in Win 10 runs much better for me than it ever did in XP . I have a better machine , I have more ram and an i 3 beats a P4 at the poker table after all the bets are in . Is it worth the trouble ? In my case the yay's far out weighs the nays . I will say that w some reservations ... Just about every thing P 5 could do Cakewalk can do ...P 5 was so streamlined in it's work flow .Most of the features P 5 excelled at are living a breathing in the current version of Cakewalk ..so are most of the plugs , arpeggios , song and patterns , and a number of other things like the Matrix View , just the tip of the iceberg. Cakewalk seems to have more layers of options to wade through itself to get the same results . I have l worked on learning Cakewalk to the point of being able to do a lot of what I used to do in P5 ...it is a steep learning curve imho ...It would take me hours to sit here and do a comparison on a workflow comparison one feature at a time between P 5 and Cakewalk . To be perfectly honest with you I fired up P 5 in Win 10 before I came here today . I find it totally inspiring to use P 5 with many of the SONAR X3 , and SPlat instruments and plugs that show up in P 5 ...P5w more modern plugs and synths kicks some serious colo ....the workflow is simplified and it is easier to get around for FAST down and dirty ... Having said all that P5 on a more modern computer can be a little finicky w plugin scans and may crash more often . this computer has both 32 and 64 bit DAW's and the plugs an VST instruments I do have will scan and work for the most part in P5 ... FWIW I don't use P 5 nearly as much as I did . As far as other options go I have both Mixcraft 7 & 8 pro and they are pretty decent DAW's that can do what P 5 used to do and a lot more ... The only thing that P 5 does that none of this other stuff does is save to PTN files .. any way nice talking w you , Kenny Edited September 17, 2019 by kennywtelejazz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseC Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, kennywtelejazz said: The only thing that P 5 does that none of this other stuff does is save to PTN files .. Thanks for your reply. Yes, the idea of saving PTN files, and especially arpeggiator files for the CbB is what made me ask. I have much fun jamming with arpeggiators to come up with ideas, but I use to do it with hardware and I had not really paid much attention to the track arpeggiator in CbB until the other day that I played with it for a while and found that you cannot really program your own patterns unless you use P5, and searching a bit I came up with this: http://project5.technetos.com/technique/alesion-arp.shtml So I thought about giving it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 23 hours ago, InstrEd said: Ah No! OK then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Sorry, I still liked the workflow of P5. It is hard for me to describe why. I have been hoping with Jesse back at CbB some of the streamlined P5 concepts will be put into CbB? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywtelejazz Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 P5 is even better when you add some of the stuff that came with SONAR as add on's. Throw in some of Larry's deals and watch out . Kenny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I have P5 v2.5 installed in my Win 10 Pro x64 PC. It's amazing that P5 still installs and runs on this OS, and since my current computer is much better than the old P4 x86 that I used to run it on, so performance is not an issue! And I still love the UI. It's relatively simple layout still looks relevant. And with everything right there, it is very inviting to dive into exploring and creating with it. The only real drawbacks now are that it is 32-bit only (so each 32-bit process is limited to 2 GB RAM), and single threaded. This could be an issue when using large virtual instrument plugins such as samplers. If they don't plan to ever update the program, it would be cool if Cakewalk could design a skin for CbB to emulate the look and workflow of P5, while using CbB "under the hood". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 P5 did have a cult following. To bad it didn't survive to become 64 bit at least 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Hey Jesse are you reading this. Time to dust off your P5 coding skills and integrate them into CbB Please, Please oh Please make it so 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse g Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I ran P5 v2.5 on my laptop years ago. I didn't add it when I built my PC for work strictly with SPLAT and now CbB. I guest when I get a new i7 laptop in a few weeks I will try and add P5 to it and see how it works. P5 was my go to for quick creations , but I mainly use CbB for mixing now.; that is where my heart is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Russ Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 On 9/19/2019 at 11:01 AM, InstrEd said: P5 did have a cult following. To bad it didn't survive to become 64 bit at least They put out a survey before the last update asking for priorities on what they should update. Multicore and 64 bit were listed as options. The user base voted for input quantize. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Russ Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 On 9/18/2019 at 9:08 PM, kennywtelejazz said: P5 is even better when you add some of the stuff that came with SONAR as add on's. Throw in some of Larry's deals and watch out . Unfortunately, if you add too much stuff in then "watch out" is the key phrase there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 17 hours ago, Magic Russ said: They put out a survey before the last update asking for priorities on what they should update. Multicore and 64 bit were listed as options. The user base voted for input quantize. Somewhere back in the old daze, someone from Cakewalk mentioned that to update P5 to be a modern 64-bit application would require a re-write of the code. Somebody decided that it would be better to shift the good parts over to Sonar. Like the Matrix View. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I'm using Project 10 in Windows 5... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I'm on Project 51. I wish I could tell you more but the aliens are watching me ? What ever you do, don't use the matrix at Area 51. You have been warned? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Russ Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agincourtdb Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I'm migrating to a new laptop... got P5 2.5.1 successfully installed and authorized but for some reason I can't add a target folder to the vst scanner. Go through the motions and it just doesn't 'take'. Anybody seeing this behavior? Also Win10. p.s. Got back into making stuff after a few years away and used p5 (on the previous laptop quite a bit. 2 of 7 songs on the EP I just released were done in P5 v2.5.1 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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