automatic stop playback

[Giorgio Gabriel]

Dear all,

is there a way to tell CWB to stop playback automatically in a particular moment of a song - not at the end?

Thanks,

Giorgio

[chuckebaby]

I don't think so. There is the use of Lopping which will stop playback at a current point, problem is, it will restart at the beginning of the loop.

Would be nice if Markers had advanced options allowing "Stop" "Go to" "Advance".

[Giorgio Gabriel]

I noticed the same.

 

I also was thinking to set something into a marker...

 

Thanks,

Giorgio

 

[user 905133]

I can see that this feature might be useful.  Perhaps it might go along with a flexible Go To / Song Position Pointer feature (and maybe other Transport Control features--including the use of a standalone wi-fi controller someone requested in another thread).  If it all can be done with markers, that seems like one possible option.  I have not done anything with MCI Commands, and I am not sure if this is even possible, but perhaps if the Cakewalk transport apparatus could be treated as an MCIcmd controllable sequencer (or perhaps if it could have a sophisticated MIDI/SysEx Control), the automatic stop and related functions would be useful to a wide assortment of DAW users.

Just thinking out loud because it opens up a number of possibilities (assuming it can't already be done).

Steve

[chuckebaby]

I had put in a feature request a few years ago for advanced markers.

My idea was to have a marker view where you could rearrange all clips in that section to play. This would allow ease of use for creating different sequences.

Example- Play verse, bridge, chorus. Then use markers to arrange chorus, verse, verse, bridge.

This would allow us to arrange a song in any fashion to hear parts in different order by simply using the advanced markers Vs. having to copy/paste parts in different places.

[57Gregy]

Temporarily, perhaps you can slip-edit all the tracks to the place you want it to stop.

[razor7music]

I thought there was a setting where you could have the playback stop at the end of a project. I like that feature, but have been too lazy to go look up how to enable it. Is it still a feature?

[lapasoa]

It's  a long time that we all expect that a project really ends were we want because there are  a few cases where the song does'nt stop at the project end without any note or something else beyond.

[razor7music]

5 hours ago, lapasoa said:

It's  a long time that we all expect that a project really ends were we want because there are  a few cases where the song does'nt stop at the project end without any note or something else beyond.

You have to set the end of the project or CW won't know when it's over. It's handy when you don't want the play head to keep going after the track is done.

[Base 57]

On 9/9/2019 at 1:08 PM, razor7music said:

I thought there was a setting where you could have the playback stop at the end of a project. I like that feature, but have been too lazy to go look up how to enable it. Is it still a feature?

 

5 hours ago, lapasoa said:

It's  a long time that we all expect that a project really ends were we want because there are  a few cases where the song does'nt stop at the project end without any note or something else beyond.

Guys, OP wants some sort of Stop Marker before the end of the project.

 

On 9/7/2019 at 4:38 AM, Giorgio Gabriel said:

Dear all,

is there a way to tell CWB to stop playback automatically in a particular moment of a song - not at the end?

Thanks,

Giorgio

I think if one were to experiment with some kind of midi loopback (whether a physical cable or virtual like LoopBe) it may be possible to place a stop command into a midi track. I'm too lazy to do the experiment myself

[azslow3]

2 hours ago, Base 57 said:

 

Guys, OP wants some sort of Stop Marker before the end of the project.

 

I think if one were to experiment with some kind of midi loopback (whether a physical cable or virtual like LoopBe) it may be possible to place a stop command into a midi track. I'm too lazy to do the experiment myself

I also think that will work. So, some MIDI message (f.e. some CC) which looped back as a Control Surface message (f.e. Generic Surface), with this messages assigned to Stop command. It is not going to be extremely accurate in time...

[Giorgio Gabriel]

Does anyone tried with the Control Surface trick? I had some success but not 100%.

I have a Frontier Tranzport and I noticed that the STOP button sends a midi note A7 with value 127.

In my system it seems to work (adding a second Frontier Tranzport in the Control Surfaces, setting up a midi track with a A7 somewhere, setting this midi track to "hear" a different midi in, and using a short midi cable for loopback).

Problem is that I need this function in another computer without a Frontier Tranzport installed, so I tried other options in the Control Surface menu but without success.

Thanks,

Giorgio

 

[azslow3]

You can use Generic Surface/ACT MIDI and "learn" the message you use for Stop.

[Blogospherianman]

Easy peasy!! ?

Need a midi out and a midi in OR a virtual midi cable.

1. Create a midi track. Record a midi note where you want the song to stop.  Assign the out to your Midi out.

2 Run a Midi cable from the Midi out to your Midi Input. ( Physical or Virtual)

3. Click on the ACT module where it says ‘Select hardware controller/surface’. Click the yellow asterisk thingy to add  ACT controller (select ACT midi controller). Set the input to your midi input and output to none.  Click the ACT module and select the ACT controller you just created then click the controller properties button to open controller properties.

4 Click the Options tab. Just to the Right of ‘Bank 1 and B1’ Click the box and Select ‘Stop with Now Marker’

5 Click the Controllers tab to the left of the options tab. On the bottom Bank 1 Click the B1 button to turn on Midi learn. Now play the part of the song you first recorded a single midi note where you are were wanting to stop.

Now your song will Stop wherever you have that Midi note on that track! Awesome! You’ll have to move beyond or back before the note to be able to play your song.

✌️

[Giorgio Gabriel]

Mmmm, thanks to you all, I will try this evening!!!

 

bye,

Giorgio

[azslow3]

Or you can use alternative solution:

http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,298.0.html

This does not require extra track nor MIDI loopback. But can be a bit "slower" (~0.1 sec delay between marker is reached and stop is executed). But playback/recording can be started immediately after stop, "Stop" is triggered only in case current marker name is changed with transport active.

[Giorgio Gabriel]

5 hours ago, Blogospherianman said:

Easy peasy!! ?

Need a midi out and a midi in OR a virtual midi cable.

1. Create a midi track. Record a midi note where you want the song to stop.  Assign the out to your Midi out.

2 Run a Midi cable from the Midi out to your Midi Input. ( Physical or Virtual)

3. Click on the ACT module where it says ‘Select hardware controller/surface’. Click the yellow asterisk thingy to add  ACT controller (select ACT midi controller). Set the input to your midi input and output to none.  Click the ACT module and select the ACT controller you just created then click the controller properties button to open controller properties.

4 Click the Options tab. Just to the Right of ‘Bank 1 and B1’ Click the box and Select ‘Stop with Now Marker’

5 Click the Controllers tab to the left of the options tab. On the bottom Bank 1 Click the B1 button to turn on Midi learn. Now play the part of the song you first recorded a single midi note where you are were wanting to stop.

Now your song will Stop wherever you have that Midi note on that track! Awesome! You’ll have to move beyond or back before the note to be able to play your song.

✌️

Hello,

I tried this solution and YES it works. Thanks a lot.

One only problem: if the computer has ONLY 1 MIDI IN / OUT, and I need to use a cable on those midi ports for loopback, as soon as the the song reaches the midi note for the STOP command, I can see that the midi track seems to go in a midi loop state or something similar (the midi vumeter starts blinking and never stops).

In my system I managed the problem assigning the midi track to a DIFFERENT midi in port, but what can I do if the system has only 1 midi in/out?

BTW I also managed to insert a second command into the ACT module, to jump at the end of the measure, so simply pressing the spacebar the song starts again from that point!!!

Bye,

Giorgio

[Giorgio Gabriel]

5 hours ago, azslow3 said:

Or you can use alternative solution:

http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,298.0.html

This does not require extra track nor MIDI loopback. But can be a bit "slower" (~0.1 sec delay between marker is reached and stop is executed). But playback/recording can be started immediately after stop, "Stop" is triggered only in case current marker name is changed with transport active.

Thanks a lot. This seems very good and I will probably try this solution too.

Regards,

Giorgio

[Giorgio Gabriel]

3 hours ago, Giorgio Gabriel said:

Hello,

I tried this solution and YES it works. Thanks a lot.

One only problem: if the computer has ONLY 1 MIDI IN / OUT, and I need to use a cable on those midi ports for loopback, as soon as the the song reaches the midi note for the STOP command, I can see that the midi track seems to go in a midi loop state or something similar (the midi vumeter starts blinking and never stops).

In my system I managed the problem assigning the midi track to a DIFFERENT midi in port, but what can I do if the system has only 1 midi in/out?

BTW I also managed to insert a second command into the ACT module, to jump at the end of the measure, so simply pressing the spacebar the song starts again from that point!!!

Bye,

Giorgio

Found the solution setting the Input Echo to OFF (before that disabling Always Echo Current Midi Track into the preferences).

Thanks again,

Giorgio

[Blogospherianman]

38 minutes ago, Giorgio Gabriel said:

Found the solution setting the Input Echo to OFF (before that disabling Always Echo Current Midi Track into the preferences).

Thanks again,

Giorgio

Excellent brother! I can see the wheels turning now! ??