John Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Jeremy Oakes said: I’m not sure i agree 100% with you. J No on is required to agree with me. I think by talking about it the staff can get an idea of how to proceed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Row Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) What if new users are limited to 5 posts a day (whatever number) for 2 weeks (whatever period) or until they reach 100 posts (whatever number) If they register on the day they start the spamming there will only be a limited number of posts to clean up and you have them. If they are sleepers and don't start until a week, a month, a year after they sign up they will be held in check by the post reached limit and if they start they'll be held by the daily limit and you'll have them. I don't know, maybe some version of that, or maybe not ?. I know I saw a couple of posts short of 4 pages full the other day. I had the reason why it wouldn't be a burden on legitimate posters, but it has left me, the result of long term usage of some heavy duty pain meds and high dosage morphine patches, the memory can go to mush ? Edited August 18, 2023 by heath row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Guitar Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 I'd really hate to see any weirdness to logging in and asking a question here. Not many people use these type of forums anymore and it would really be the end of this one for sure. Like the Steinberg forum, I bought Wave Lab and tried to join the forum. It sucked. This is a great forum and seems it's been around for a long time. Hats off to the people who keep it running and civilized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. Posted August 18, 2023 Author Share Posted August 18, 2023 I think the best solution here would be to create a "Spam Folder" in the forum and gove access to users to only "MOVE" these posts to the folder for a mod to come in and confirm its spam and delete it. In my Time-Zome I saw spam that was 4hrs old sitting without being removed. This option can be added next to the title of the post under the 3 dots tab next to the post for users to quickly move these posts to the spam folder for a mod to confirm and delete them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stanton Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Will. said: I think the best solution here would be to create a "Spam Folder" in the forum and gove access to users to only "MOVE" these posts to the folder for a mod to come in and confirm its spam and delete it. a simpler solution is use anti-spam filters & rules - new users need to wait 8 hours before posting or read the "rules before posting" sticky and click "like" etc would likely prevent a lot of spamming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) Many times a new forum member will show up wanting to solve a problem. It could be a new SONAR/Cakewalk user or just a user who never joined the forum before. From the barrages of posts I've seen over the past several months, it looks like they are coming from one source. JMO: Personally, I would rather report 10-25 bogus posts if it means that people with legitimate urgent questions won't have to jump through hoops. I just wish there could be a one-click reporting option that makes all posts from the malicious poster disappear until a moderator can take a look at all posts from that account. Edited August 18, 2023 by User 905133 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. Posted August 18, 2023 Author Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Glenn Stanton said: a simpler solution is use anti-spam filters & rules - new users need to wait 8 hours before posting or read the "rules before posting" sticky and click "like" etc would likely prevent a lot of spamming. They will spam the forum 8hours later "when they get approved." It has been seen doing on many sites. You register as a legit user and once you're accepted, you run the algorithm to spam the site with your ads. I still think an option for users to move spams to a "Spam" folder would be a best option. The mods can then com in and do their job by confirming them and delete it. Edited August 18, 2023 by Will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 I agree with @Bass Guitar and @User 905133 The last thing this forum needs is any sort of blockades for new users with questions. Myself I have often joined a forum just to ask a question and the approval is sometimes immediate or only takes an hour or so. On the better ones I'll have my answer shortly. Otherwise I abandon that resource and keep looking. I'm a one post wonder on probably a couple dozen forums. This forum has almost been totally replaced with Facebook now. 1,000's of new users ask questions there instead of here. There are at least 5 different Sonar/Cakewalk Facebook pages that are at least as active or even more than the main forums here. For a few years I became active on a some of them and answered 100's of questions there. I would also post my Tutorial s as I released them as You Tube has that as part of the publication process. I probably gained 80% of my subscribers from there. You want a bad answer to your question-- try Facebook. The blind leading the blind mostly. Facebook sucks compared to a proper structured forum like this forum which has for the most part real good advise. I no longer support Facebook pages, I gave up. And it immediately showed in my You Tube channel as now new subscribers have almost vanished completely. I used to get 4 or 5 a day now it's like 1 a month. So that's the end of that project. It was fun and an interesting hobby but if that's the game you gotta play I'm out. I personally didn't see any spam so good job everyone.. I don't mind if the odd spam shows up. I'm not stupid and it's pretty obvious. The current system seems just fine to me. I've used it plenty of times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Sure but what about those of us that WANT to buy a cheaper version of a shoe that Kate Middleton wears? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Anderton Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 42 minutes ago, JohnnyV said: This forum has almost been totally replaced with Facebook now. 1,000's of new users ask questions there instead of here. There are at least 5 different Sonar/Cakewalk Facebook pages that are at least as active or even more than the main forums here. For a few years I became active on a some of them and answered 100's of questions there. I would also post my Tutorial s as I released them as You Tube has that as part of the publication process. I probably gained 80% of my subscribers from there. You want a bad answer to your question-- try Facebook. The blind leading the blind mostly. As some of you may know, my "Sound, Studio, and Stage" online forum/discussion group has been in continuous operation since 1995, so I've seen a lot of changes come and go. The "lack of activity" in a forum like this is, IMHO, a good thing. By and large the people who post here are cool, helpful, and follow decorum. The forum also has a database aspect, because you can find answers to older topics much more easily than on Facebook. The site that hosts my forum, musicplayer.com, had a huge dropoff in participation when Facebook became the behemoth it is today. BUT the end result was the "social media" aspect of the site disappeared, while the tech part remained. Also, participation in my forum keeps creeping back up as people get burned out on social media in general. I think something parallel is happening here. My participation in this forum is I scan for topics that have only a few replies, and see if I can help. For quite a while, it was common for threads to have no replies for quite a while. However, these days, I see fewer and fewer threads that don't already have multiple intelligent responses by the time I find them. Obviously I don't know what the stats are here, but it seems participation certainly isn't falling off. And so many of the people posting here are pure gold if you use Cakewalk (and even if you don't, there's a lot of useful advice). I think the quality of the people here is off the hook, so the quantity doesn't really matter. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 They are back! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Lord Tim, who's been the early morning janitor, hasn’t been logged on for almost two weeks. I hope he’s okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 True. I think Mark will be up any moment now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 10 hours ago, Canopus said: Lord Tim, who's been the early morning janitor, hasn’t been logged on for almost two weeks. I hope he’s okay. The other long time contributor I haven’t seen for a while is Mr Cook. Shows you how connected we all become here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 38 minutes ago, JohnnyV said: The other long time contributor I haven’t seen for a while is Mr Cook. Shows you how connected we all become here. Yes, that's the elephant in the room. He hasn't been logged on for a month. Whatever the reason, I just hope he's well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Row Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 That is one dude who is well deserved a rest. The old forums to this forum, he was always there, answering away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 40 minutes ago, heath row said: That is one dude who is well deserved a rest. The old forums to this forum, he was always there, answering away. And never inaccurate like most of us. I learned more from him than anything else. Possibly he was AI after all and part of the old server they are dismantling. Just kidding Steve. Yes we hope all is well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Just deleted a few more spams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 I think at present the staff have done the right thing on this. The modes can see the spam but the forum in general can't. We are alerted of the new posts and can deal with them. I think it works pretty well. New users need to be able to post and get answers. There is no perfect way to distinguish between spam and a real new post without human intervention. When a post is made by a new user it is hidden until a mode can look at it. Here we can ban the new user and delete the posts or unhide it and let the forum answer it. What is so disconcerting is how many spam post are made. I sure would like to know what the point is to spam that way. 2 hours ago, pwalpwal said: is there not something can be done server-side, so they don;t make it through? this is the only forum i see such an amount of spam, regularly, and i'm sure it's not being handled manually by kindly admins all over the rest of the web Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Anderton Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 5 hours ago, John said: Just deleted a few more spams. I hate to see spam deleted. I come to the Cakewalk forums specifically to learn about granite countertop epoxy, custom kitchen cabinets, and how to improve my SEO with "verified user" review farms in Bengladesh. How can we possibly expect to get the most out of Cakewalk without this vitally important information? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now