azslow3 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Can someone explain me why "free" DAW can revert itself to Demo Mode? And even in case that is a secret, is there any hint inside the program about WHEN that is going to happened next time? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Michael Vogel Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Perhaps Bandlab Assistant should have more CCC like features added. That way offline authorisation and the accommodation of future products would be easier to organise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Keni Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, azslow3 said: Can someone explain me why "free" DAW can revert itself to Demo Mode? And even in case that is a secret, is there any hint inside the program about WHEN that is going to happened next time? Yeah... i just ran into this as well. The machine at rehearsal studio which has no internet. Hasn't been touched since the week before Christmas. On boot up I was shocked to see it suddenly in demo mode and no way to connect to web to attempt correction. what's going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Marc LeBlanc Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I just got that myself. I went into Bandlab assistant updated to the new version and now good to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Keni Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 How can I resolve this on a machine that no longer has web access? Pain to move it elsewhere for this. It was working fine. What caused it to revert to demo mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 sjoens Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 AND... Will this be normal behavior for each update cycle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Keni Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Especially as it's free. I can understand an original authorization, but why ever after? Some machines don't have easy web access even at this point in time (technology). This makes it a much more difficult update regime to maintain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Noel Borthwick Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 The program has a lease that we set to about 6 months. It needs to be periodically updated to keep running. As mike mentioned, we release updates frequently so if you get updates you will normally never see this prompt. Also if you do run into it, simply logging out and back into BandLab assistant will give you a new lease. One important reason for a handshake with our servers is to prevent people from putting the app on mirrors where someone can get a virus injected easily. Its a small inconvenience to put up with considering that the app is completely free now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 azslow3 Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 Thank you for the clarification. Have I understood that right that if I start BandLab Assistant and it goes online, Cakewalk will not revert to the demo mode during next month? I mean is that "6 months" are counted from the last contact with the service or there are some "fixed dates"? In case the later is the case, please display that magic date somewhere. So if I want the computer offline let say tomorrow, I can be sure it will not revert to the demo. With pushed Windows updates I prefer to switch off the internet and check that everything I need is working before doing something important next day. And I guess I am not alone. PS. @Mike. Some of my servers have uptime more then a year, I also have servers running OS more then 8 years without updates. Old CCC had an option to revert. I have not found such in the Bandlab Assistant. I keep up to date my home computer and online computer games on it, but I am not so quick with at least partially serious staff. @Noel. I am a bit confused by your second argument... If I have installed Cakewalk using Assistant and it has authorized what I have installed, how can I get a virus from some mirror? If someone manage to initially authorize without Bandlab service and you catch him half a year later, I think it is "too late" for virus injection prevention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Keni Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said: The program has a lease that we set to about 6 months. It needs to be periodically updated to keep running. As mike mentioned, we release updates frequently so if you get updates you will normally never see this prompt. Also if you do run into it, simply logging out and back into BandLab assistant will give you a new lease. One important reason for a handshake with our servers is to prevent people from putting the app on mirrors where someone can get a virus injected easily. Its a small inconvenience to put up with considering that the app is completely free now. Thanks for explaing Noel. I understand and it makes good sense, but I have a situation where my studio is off grid. There is no internet available there. This makes it a bit of a chore. I don't recall as it wasn't an issue for me before, but I remember people inquiring about offline activation. Is such a thing available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bats brew Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 4:25 PM, Keni said: How can I resolve this on a machine that no longer has web access? Pain to move it elsewhere for this. It was working fine. What caused it to revert to demo mode? just move it to have web access, it's just a computer. no big deal just do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Keni Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, batsbrew said: just move it to have web access, it's just a computer. no big deal just do it. I guess for many it's that simple. Right now I have no car so I can't. If it was a bug and only once I could arrange a ride, but it's gonna be constant! ...and moving the machine with it's large monitor and the studiolive console that is it's audio interface is a pain! Luckily, I still have SPlat installed there and it doesn't appear to suffer this "feature" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bats brew Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 sorry about the car situation, that does sux, and makes it a different matter. bottom line, bum a ride, download the update, smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Noel Borthwick Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Keni said: This makes it a bit of a chore. I don't recall as it wasn't an issue for me before, but I remember people inquiring about offline activation. It is not available and would require a bunch of work to do since the mechanics are quite different from C3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Keni Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, Noel Borthwick said: It is not available and would require a bunch of work to do since the mechanics are quite different from C3. Thanks for the notice Noel... I guess that machine will be running SPlat for a while. I have a rehearsal there on Thursday and will see if I can fit the machine into the car (shared ride). I'm guessing I can install without the audio interface and fix that when returned to studio, yes? That's a harder part if I must move the interface as it remains setup for our rehearsals... I'm also going to see if someone can get a hotspot running there which might make this painless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 nzpaul Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Is it not possible for you to tether your PC to your phone for a minute or two to get it on the internet whilst it re-registers it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Keni Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, nzpaul said: Is it not possible for you to tether your PC to your phone for a minute or two to get it on the internet whilst it re-registers it? Thanks nzpaul... I'm hoping so. I mentioned wuch (hotspot) in my previous message. I'll see what happens Thursday night when I'm next there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 azslow3 Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Mike Balzarini said: Hey azslow- I don't think there's an argument on Noel's part. Some users have asked why bother authing a free product. If we didn't have that auth, CbB would likely be posted on other sites that are much more susceptible to any of the bad things. To reduce the chance of CbB being illegally distributed, the program auths via BandLab Assistant... Authorizing with BandLab assistant was not my question. Your product, your rules. I just want to understand these rules. 11 hours ago, Mike Balzarini said: ... there are checks after a period of time, etc. ... So: "a period of time" means 6 months. If the period is over, Cakewalk instantly reverts into demo without a warning these dates are no shown Am I right so far? just starting Assistant is not sufficient to reset the period I am almost sure I was running Assistant during last 6 months, but without updating anything. So what exactly is required to avoid "demo" next day? 11 hours ago, Mike Balzarini said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 chris.r Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 another vote for offline option, though I understand it needs a bunch of work, but it's like essential for some really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Keni Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, pwalpwal said: "demo mode" has at least two benefits for bandlab: 1. they know who's using their software 2. they have a limited number of versions to support but it could be done in a more user-friendly way (e.g., show the expiry/demo-mode date so users who are normally off-line can plan to do the update rather than being surprised by the "demo mode") This would help... My rhearsal just got cancelled so it will be another week before I can address this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Funk Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) I just started having problems with Cakewalk going into demo mode too. It was working fine a couple of hours ago. Im connected to the internet. I tried logging out and back into bandlab assist and also tried reinstalling assist. Cakewalk still tells me it's in demo mode. I'm up to date using version 2019.01 build 27 Is anyone else having problems with this? Edited February 10, 2019 by Funk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Can someone explain me why "free" DAW can revert itself to Demo Mode?
And even in case that is a secret, is there any hint inside the program about WHEN that is going to happened next time?
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