Zargg Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 (edited) Hi. I thought I'd try something I've never tried before, which is to "rap". I think the original song is cool (Remember the name by Fort Minor), so thought, why not give it a go, so here it is. Feedback is appreciated. All the best. To add: I've tried to remedy some masking issues that were pointed out to me by Charlie Roy (from the old forum) on his Mixing and Mastering tips forum on FB. Edited August 25, 2023 by Zargg New mix 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargg Posted July 9, 2023 Author Share Posted July 9, 2023 This is the original: Remember the name on YT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 The one thing that stands out is the the lack of weight in the drums, especially the kick. is it because the vocals are to forward with the rest of the mix. The backing sounds balanced but the vox is a bit forward. Perhaps just these furry ears mix not quite to your normal standard sir sorry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack c. Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 i like it boy that is some voice.jack c 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargg Posted July 10, 2023 Author Share Posted July 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Wookiee said: The one thing that stands out is the the lack of weight in the drums, especially the kick. is it because the vocals are to forward with the rest of the mix. The backing sounds balanced but the vox is a bit forward. Perhaps just these furry ears mix not quite to your normal standard sir sorry. Thanks for listening and feedback, Wooks. I'm gonna try to get some more oomph in the drums. I'll also try to remedy the vocals. All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargg Posted July 10, 2023 Author Share Posted July 10, 2023 46 minutes ago, jack c. said: i like it boy that is some voice.jack c Thanks for listening and positive feedback, Jack. I tried to use a different kind of voice throughout the song, as the original is performed by several people. All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargg Posted July 10, 2023 Author Share Posted July 10, 2023 New mix is up with a few tweaks as suggested above. @Wookiee I somehow had inserted a de-esser on the kick fx channel, killing most of the bottom of the kick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 That metal singer does rap. Great job on the vocals and that guitar riff tone is killer Ken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargg Posted July 10, 2023 Author Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Bapu said: That metal singer does rap. Great job on the vocals and that guitar riff tone is killer Ken. Thanks mate! And thanks again for lending me your ears ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwnicholson78 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 I didn't hear the original version, but the drums sounded plenty punchy in this one. Nice job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garybrun Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 To be honest not my kind of music. The mix separation is great on the guitars. The rap you've got it ?We all pain different pictures.. but compression on the voice could be used a little more to make the vocal come forward and a little more understandable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargg Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 12 hours ago, jwnicholson78 said: I didn't hear the original version, but the drums sounded plenty punchy in this one. Nice job. Thanks for listening and feedback. All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargg Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 5 hours ago, garybrun said: To be honest not my kind of music. The mix separation is great on the guitars. The rap you've got it ?We all pain different pictures.. but compression on the voice could be used a little more to make the vocal come forward and a little more understandable. Thanks for listening and feedback, Gary. (If we all liked the same music, it would be boring ?) The vocals are already pretty compressed (several times), but I'll take a look and perhaps up them a little. All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry T. Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Hi Zargg. Listened to original version as well. Great choice of song to reinvent. Both versions sound great. Your vocals are extraordinary. I think the original has the overall clarity and mass accessibility that allows the listener to hear everything quite clear. So, right after I listened to the original I played yours. My ears at first couldn't hear much clarity as it seemed that more carving of the audio spectrum was needed to give each instrument a clear and present place to be clearly heard. I then listened to yours a few more times and my ears slowly picked up on your mixes completely different audio palette. So now I'm like.... both versions are excellently realized in completely different ways. Cheers!!???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargg Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Larry T. said: Hi Zargg. Listened to original version as well. Great choice of song to reinvent. Both versions sound great. Your vocals are extraordinary. I think the original has the overall clarity and mass accessibility that allows the listener to hear everything quite clear. So, right after I listened to the original I played yours. My ears at first couldn't hear much clarity as it seemed that more carving of the audio spectrum was needed to give each instrument a clear and present place to be clearly heard. I then listened to yours a few more times and my ears slowly picked up on your mixes completely different audio palette. So now I'm like.... both versions are excellently realized in completely different ways. Cheers!!???? Thanks for listening and positive feedback, Larry. I just (5 mins ago) replaced the mix with one with a little more vocals, and a few other minor tweaks. All the best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 @Zargg better, the vocals sits appropriately and I can hear the kick work, and the drums generally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargg Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 5 hours ago, Wookiee said: @Zargg better, the vocals sits appropriately and I can hear the kick work, and the drums generally. Thanks for another listen and feedback, John. All the best, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeEarCandy Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Not a genre I feel I'm qualified to comment about, but I like the guitar tone. I can't help but sense the fusion of heavy metal in this rap effort. Kudos for taking a stab at it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargg Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/17/2023 at 11:00 PM, FreeEarCandy said: Not a genre I feel I'm qualified to comment about, but I like the guitar tone. I can't help but sense the fusion of heavy metal in this rap effort. Kudos for taking a stab at it. Thanks for listening and feedback. Sorry for the late reply. I don't get any emails from Cakewalk anymore, and forgot to check this one. It is indeed metal with me trying to "rap" to it. (I used "" as this is my very 1st attempt on doing it, so didn't wanna call what I did rap.) All the best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPAREELS Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 JUST LOVE IT !!! I play this in my playroom when I'm fed up with writers block ... said before GREAT! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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