Terry Kelley Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Well, I guess you got them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Meltopia said: I'm more worried about how long the activation will last once the other programs come out. No need to worry; I am sure we will find out in due time. Here's how I look at it: If the 6-month activation requirement will be in effect after the final CbB update, we will have 6 months after that final update to make alternate plans if we so desire. If the 6-month activation requirement is gone, worrying between now and then will have been a waste of time for the worrier, for people who reply, for people who have to sort through the same-old same-old discussion that is going around in circles getting nowhere fast, etc. Don't worry; be happy!! Edited June 9, 2023 by User 905133 clarification added 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 BRB, ordering more popcorn.... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keni Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, JohnnyV said: If you read my post you will see I said “ Other than Splat “ Sonar Platinum , Splat, was the first version to require servers. And once activated never needs the server again until you install it to a new machine or change your C drive. X3 and backwards as well as Most of the add ins came with there own installers and serial numbers. Worst case scenario for me would be returning to using X3. I’ll do that before I change DAWs. I'm with you here... I've got too many decades of learning, skills, and techniques working with this wonderful Cakewalk/Sonar product. I have less than zero intention of changing now... If for no other reason is I still believe it's the best DAW available! I have others and never use them though I have learned how. I just don't like their' systems... I would miss some things if I had to go back that far, but better than the alternative for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 PS: In the unlikely event that I was wrong about the activation issue ("I am sure we will find out in due time") and we don't have 6-months to make plans, I just refreshed my activation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarianoGF Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Will SonitusFX be still included in upcoming Cakewalk Sonar? I'm not the only one who loves them. There are many beautiful reviews about how they work and sound. Discontinuing them just because they are DirectX and look old would be sad. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misha Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Noel, you are a wonderful programmer and a very dedicated and helpful person. I have zero complains about how Cakewalk was developed in the past 5 years and looking forward to versions that will come soon. I get that this is likely is not up to you... However, it shouldn't be hard to understand to why I repeatedly insist that at least versions sold under Gibson should be permanently unlocked for those who bought them. Simply to have a peace of mind that I would be able to revisit tunes wrote within past 20+ years and not be dependent on a server that might or might not work in the future. Insurance / security whatever terminology fits better. I belong to another forum, where people often re-mix their tunes from decades ago. Senior folks. I can totally see myself tinkering with early stuff when I retire. It is unlikely that I will be using 2017 for re-mixing and do other technical things, but that version will give me the ability to export individual stems with their volume automations, and among a few other things properly. Very likely Sonar will be around and backward compatible .., but things might change. Those older projects of mine will not. I would very much would like to get some kind of input on this. Thanks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarianoGF Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Lord Tim said: I haven't seen anything to suggest they'll be taking any effects or instruments away at all. Furthermore, in the Sonar thumbnails of the website it appears again the LPhase-EQ. I don't know what to think about that, but have to suppose that it comes back again along with LPhase-Multiband (and hopefully Adaptive Limiter). Edited June 9, 2023 by MarianoGF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Jost Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Misha said: However, it shouldn't be hard to understand to why I repeatedly insist that at least versions sold under Gibson should be permanently unlocked for those who bought them. Simply to have a peace of mind that I would be able to revisit tunes wrote within past 20+ years and not be dependent on a server that might or might not work in the future. Insurance / security whatever terminology fits better. I belong to another forum, where people often re-mix their tunes from decades ago. Senior folks. I can totally see myself tinkering with early stuff when I retire. It is unlikely that I will be using 2017 for re-mixing and do other technical things, but that version will give me the ability to export individual stems with their volume automations, and among a few other things properly. Very likely Sonar will be around and backward compatible .., but things might change. Those older projects of mine will not. I would very much would like to get some kind of input on this. Your request is heard! We hold everyone's concerns in mind, but please be patient for pricing announcements, which are to come later this year. There's no need for panic or wild speculation in the interim. Just understand that we won't be commenting on pricing specifics until the information is made publicly available, on the website, along with additional, enlightening big picture information. In the meantime, focus on making tracks and, as always, keep your feedback coming on the product side of things. ? Thanks! Edited June 9, 2023 by Jesse Jost there's _no_ need for panic :P 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misha Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Jesse, Thank you for replying! I am concerned, but far from panicking. Likely I would be among first to upgrade, as I use Cakewalk almost daily and have no desire to switch to anything else. Ok I will shut up and patiently wait. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltopia Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 49 minutes ago, User 905133 said: No need to worry; I am sure we will find out in due time. Here's how I look at it: If the 6-month activation requirement will be in effect after the final CbB update, we will have 6 months after that final update to make alternate plans if we so desire. If the 6-month activation requirement is gone, worrying between now and then will have been a waste of time for the worrier, for people who reply, for people who have to sort through the same-old same-old discussion that is going around in circles getting nowhere fast, etc. Don't worry; be happy!! To express one's concern about what will happen to the old program is completely legitimate. Some people have vast back catalogues of projects. It is completely normal to try to find out what is going to happen in order to start preparing old projects to be used with other DAWs, in the event that the new software isn't the right choice for them. Asking this question on this forum is exactly the right way of trying to find an answer. I'm sure there are a lot of people who would rather get on with finding another DAW (or not) sooner rather than later. People need to feel secure with the software that they have invested so much time in, and these unanswered questions do not help towards that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, Misha said: However, it shouldn't be hard to understand to why I repeatedly insist that at least versions sold under Gibson should be permanently unlocked for those who bought them. Isn't that why an unlocked / one-time only activation version of Home Studio was made available (so that people would continue to have access to their projects)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Maybe if you would render all your tracks out as .wav.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Meltopia said: To express one's concern about what will happen to the old program is completely legitimate. I was not challenging your right (legitimacy) to worry. I was offering what I thought was a helpful suggestion. You can worry all you want. However, I would rather read information about the products (new info as it becomes available) instead of people rehashing the same-old same-old expressions of worrying. Let me be clear, I never said that worrying wasn't a legitimate human reaction to any sort of news. Trust me, at my ripe old age, I have done tons of worrying. So I understand perfectly what goes into worrying. Worry on!!!! Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Byron Dickens said: Maybe if you would render all your tracks out as .wav.... Exactly. This is how you should archive tracks and guard against old plugins not working. Run stems or track outs - then it doesn't matter what happens. You can still reconstruct the track in an editable form. Example from today's session . Everything the Music Library requests so they have some options when working to picture. For those who think that might be a PITA it's much quicker than in the pre-DAW days , we had to make a safety copy of the tape and then write down all the settings for the outboard gear ! Edited June 9, 2023 by Mark Morgon-Shaw 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misha Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Rendering is definitely not something I want to pursue. We are talking thousands of individual tracks/take lanes. A local license for old Sonar Home or even better last patched CwB will put this to rest for a long time for backup purposes (yes, even if it will be a paid option). I am also aware that there are some converters out there that will decipher / convert Cakewalk projects. But a working backup copy of older original software is obviously better choice as it give much more control. I think, an older i7 / 6 core Thinkpad with 16gb ram mothballed with battery taken out and everything duplicated to flash drive is a good enough plan for backup for my needs. I am looking forward to new releases and to what Jesse said. Perhaps bakers already worked something out that will take care of this. I got to stop typing now and finish up mixing my tune. Thank you all who supported my woodpecker like licensing requests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcL Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 34 minutes ago, User 905133 said: Isn't that why an unlocked / one-time only activation version of Home Studio was made available (so that people would continue to have access to their projects)? The problem is that this only works as long as there are no hardware/system changes. As soon as your system id changes you are required to re-authorize and in this case you depend on the authorization server again! For me this is a crucial thing, especially on my recording system that is still W7! Would I be able to install (I have installer backups) and re-authorize CbB if I once jump to W10? But also on my mixing machine, if I replace some hardware and the system id changes, is a re-authorize possible? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcL Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 42 minutes ago, Byron Dickens said: Maybe if you would render all your tracks out as .wav.... I always do this and backup them. But this does neither save all your mixing information in the projects, nor does it help if you still want to use Splat or CbB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltopia Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, User 905133 said: I was not challenging your right (legitimacy) to worry. I was offering what I thought was a helpful suggestion. You can worry all you want. However, I would rather read information about the products (new info as it becomes available) instead of people rehashing the same-old same-old expressions of worrying. Let me be clear, I never said that worrying wasn't a legitimate human reaction to any sort of news. Trust me, at my ripe old age, I have done tons of worrying. So I understand perfectly what goes into worrying. Worry on!!!! Peace. Don't worry about it mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Jesse Jost said: Your request is heard! We hold everyone's concerns in mind, but please be patient for pricing announcements, which are to come later this year. There's need for panic or wild speculation in the interim. Just understand that we won't be commenting on pricing specifics until the information is made publicly available, on the website, along with additional, enlightening big picture information. In the meantime, focus on making tracks and, as always, keep your feedback coming on the product side of things. ? Thanks! Except the question you're responding to was not about pricing. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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