Inline PRV Note Drawing Catastrophe

[murat k.]

I prefer not using Inline PRV because of this:

PRV has no issues, we need the same note drawing standard in Inline PRV.

[RBH]

I've never been able to draw notes on the inline PRV.  This is interesting. But- secondly, make sure snap is turned off?

 

 

Edited February 26, 2023 by RBH

[murat k.]

Another issue that has not been fixed for years.

Will any steps be taken to solve this issue, or are we expected to just accept living with it?

By the way, the same issue also occurs in the Drum Pane when 'Show Durations in Drum Grid' is enabled.

It seems that the Drum Pane and the Inline PRV share the same old problematic code; they need to function like the PRV.

[Amberwolf]

Possibly related:

There used be (might still be) an issue that if you draw a note in TrackView's InlinePRV near the end of a clip, if the note is longer than the remainder of the clip, it will be cut off by the end of the clip.   And if you draw a note outside the clip, it will "disappear" when you let go of the mouse button (but may still be in the clip if you unroll it).  I don't recall if it affected the full PRV or not. 

IIRC turning off NonDestructive MIDI Editing makes these do the expected thing (of putting the note where it should be and as long as it should be), but it shouldn't be required for drawing notes (it should just work). 

 

 

[murat k.]

What frustrates me is not only the fact that a problem that has persisted for years remains unresolved, but also the lack of a community that understands and supports its resolution.

[Wookiee]

33 minutes ago, murat k. said:

What frustrates me is not only the fact that a problem that has persisted for years remains unresolved, but also the lack of a community that understands and supports its resolution.

Just as a matter of interest have you checked what it looks like in the actual PRV? Just interested to know never used the in line personally always used the Staff or PRV views.

Presumably you have made a formal support report through the appropriate channels 

[David Baay]

5 hours ago, murat k. said:

What frustrates me is not only the fact that a problem that has persisted for years remains unresolved, but also the lack of a community that understands and supports its resolution.

I can confirm it's a problem in Sonar, but not that it's persisted for years. CbB works as expected for me.

[sjoens]

The inline PRV is handy when comparing to or working off audio tracks.  In CbB however, I find drawing notes in there don't always stick to the length I draw them at.  Like the OP they sometimes snap back to a tiny blip.  But this only happens occasionally.  Zooming in helps. 

Even tho the Help files allude to the 2 PRVs have the same feature set, they don't, but I don't think the inline PRV was meant to be as robust as the main PRV.

[Amberwolf]

3 hours ago, sjoens said:

In CbB however, I find drawing notes in there don't always stick to the length I draw them at.  Like the OP they sometimes snap back to a tiny blip.  But this only happens occasionally.  Zooming in helps. 

Just for curiosity's sake, do the ones that don't stay the length you drew coincide with the end of a clip in that track?  

[murat k.]

This issue, which is unrelated to the zoom value or the end of the clip, occurs in both version of Cakewalk.

In the PRV, the length of the last drawn note is memorized, and this length is automatically repeated. However, in the Inline PRV and Drum Pane, the length of the last drawn note appears momentarily, and if the cursor does not reach the half of the note being created, it snap backs, and the note is created with a length of 2 ticks.

This issue seems to be caused by a legacy piece of code likely related to the Drum Pane.

What needs to be done is this:

The rule causing the note to be created with a length of 2 ticks should be removed. That's it.

Edited 3 hours ago by murat k.

[murat k.]

If this issue is not as described here for everyone, they can share screen recordings.

1 hour ago, murat k. said:

In the PRV, the length of the last drawn note is memorized, and this length is automatically repeated. However, in the Inline PRV and Drum Pane, the length of the last drawn note appears momentarily, and if the cursor does not reach the half of the note being created, it snap backs, and the note is created with a length of 2 ticks.

Additionally, I expect the developers to fix this long-standing issue. @Noel Borthwick@msmcleod@Jonathan Sasor